Wishlist for Gentoo 2005.1

tempest · n00b Joined: 18 Jun 2004 Posts: 44

What would you like to see in release 2005.1 ? Remember, devs are looking... :wink:

My personal wishlist includes (in no particular order):

udev working "out of the box", after installation
reverse dependencies in portage (e.g. unmerging something causes unmerging of everything dependent)
script for automated installation included in the livecd
ftgl in portage; ebuild for older versions have been in bugzilla for countless months and never got included (https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47048)

Note: I know that 2005.0 will be out before 2005.1... but talking about the latter lets us unleash all our long-term wishes for Gentoo :wink:

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MaxDamage · Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:44 pm Post subject:

Another vote for using UDEV as default. It's great for managing lots of USB widgets and having each one mounted in their own mountpoint.
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playfool · Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:17 pm Post subject:

nuke all of kernel 2.4 and related stuff - default to nptl and udev

replace gentoo-sources with vanilla to please Andrew Morton and get wider testing of vanilla - besides special needs people are always free to emerge something else but we should probably default to vanilla for users to avoid bugs caused by patching, it would be a great service to the kernel developers and the users in that we would get wider testing for the base.

I really like the rhgb concept, it works nicely, let's use it as a default - no more nasty framebuffers and grub settings to tinker with.

A "firstboot" config tool, instead of editing all those text files after bootstrapping and emerging the system - plus I always forget one step or two and I have to reboot again.. that bums me out sometimes.

Default to using hardened Gentoo - a great project and we need default securiity on our Linux boxes, at least parts of it would be nice, like default PaX and stack-protection. And a default firewall, could probably be done fairly easy with an ebuild that set the config files and a file in /etc that could open different services correctly.

and many other suggestions but stop now.

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codergeek42 · Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:49 pm Post subject:

Things I would like:
- working PCMCIA wireless support on the installation disk.
- Defaulting to udev, NPTL-enabled glibc, 2.6 kernel and headers, and GCC 3.4.

Thanx.

(btw, where is 2005.0 going then?)
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playfool · Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:56 pm Post subject:

we obviously assume that 2005.0 is going to be abducted by aliens.. jesus, didn't anyone tell you ?

Maedhros · Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:58 pm Post subject:

Widely tested livecds, so the Installation forum doesn't get filled up with people saying that they don't boot...

Actually, what I'd like to see is it being possible to install every time - i.e. not having emerge system fail due to autoconf needing perl, etc. When it's installed, it's easy to get around problems like that, but while installing it can be very different. Letting users knacker their own installs is part of the fun, but having it be impossible to install even if they do everything right it not so good. :wink:

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placeholder · Advocate Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 2500

Hmm.... I could make a Python script for a stage3 installation. I figure that anyone who does not do a stage3 install should know what they are doing. Does anyone want me to do that?

ewan.paton · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:52 am Post subject:

id just be happy with an emerge system that works without me having to searche the forums and bugs when im using x86

i did an install and emerge system failed on 3 packages without dependances merged in order also i would like to see emerge always produce the same results including when i use options like -k

that said im pretty happy with the gentoo is at the moment and never really bother about the releases as emerge sync changes it anyway
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gcasillo · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:19 am Post subject:

I also wish we'd get on board with 2.6/NPTL/udev. It's going on a year since 2.6.0 was released. This year has been a pain in the ass with regards to liveCDs.

Plastic · l33t Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 649

Maybe we could have 2 livecds: one that uses 2.4/devfs and one that uses 2.6/udev/nptl.

codergeek42 · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:31 am Post subject:

Lews_Therin · l33t Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 657 Location: Banned

How about an option to boot up X, with a Knoppix-like driver/resolution/refresh detection script? I want terminals man, terminals.

blue.sca · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:55 am Post subject:

gcc-3.4.x ?!? the most wanted for me...
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zerojay · Veteran Joined: 09 Aug 2003 Posts: 1033

There already are 2.4 and 2.6 kernels on the LiveCDs with the 2.6 kernels listed as "smp".

playfool · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:15 am Post subject:

Jakub · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:24 am Post subject:

I'd like a beta version to be released so that it gets a wider exposure for testing.

Ruzbeh · Apprentice Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 223

A GUI for installing Gentoo would make Gentoo more popular.

Don't gimme that crap that it's not hardcore enough, sure it's easy as it is now, but still. I think Fedora and Mandrake n00bs have the right to experience GENTOO. :twisted:

Oh and the GUI is under development AFAIK, I hope it's done when 2005.1 is out.

Jefklak · l33t Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 818 Location: Belgium

None of these wishlists seem to be reasonable...
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Voltago · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:09 am Post subject:

bakreule · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:23 am Post subject:

Deranger · Veteran Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1215

Reiser4 support, default ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~arch" or maybe -*? :mrgreen:

, NPTL, UDEV, mm-sources, linux26-headers and so on, good stuff

Nermal · Apprentice Joined: 18 Apr 2002 Posts: 259 Location: UK

IF we're going to go with NPTL support by default, I hope the mono garbage collection issues get sorted out.

Ruzbeh · Apprentice Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 223

Nermal · Apprentice Joined: 18 Apr 2002 Posts: 259 Location: UK