I'M DONE - 4 YEARS of Gentoo is ENOUGH. (Ed. 2010 - ...)

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anton_kg · Post by **anton_kg** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:38 am

I use Gentoo only. I submit a lot bug reports, suggestions and improvements.

Gentoo is like lego toy. It's your tool and it's to you what you can compile out of it.

The current problem what I see now it's not enough official developers. But it's not easy to find a good one.
As a results there are lot of bug reports opened, you might need to use a gentoo overlays sometimes and they might fail to compile.

Regardless, I can't live without its flexibility. It's mine.

d_logan · Post by **d_logan** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:34 pm

Gentoo has it's problems like any distro. Sometimes I get aggravated with it and go try something else. It usually doesn't take long for my to come back.

Right now I'm using Funtoo, which is essentially Gentoo (created by founder of Gentoo Daniel Robins) with a few differences, most notably emerge is based on git, and the network scripts are different (can restart network interface without restarting all network dependent services).

Catanduva · Post by **Catanduva** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:45 am

I'm from Brazil and i'm with gentoo since 2007.
Started with slackware and jumped right into gentoo. Tried Arch Linux a year ago and it's a very good distro, but i can't leave gentoo anymore.

disi · Post by **disi** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:49 pm

This is an evil topic: http://omploader.org/vM2ljNQ

costel78 · Post by **costel78** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:36 pm

for me Gentoo is better than ever. At least today

I just did recompiled toolchain, system and world (emerge -e) due to switching to gcc-4.4.3. I have 2043 packages in installed set and just 4 of them failed: evince, gimp, compiz and gluezilla (over night). Checking bugzilla I already found evince bug reported so I reported gimp. Both was due to app-text/poppler-0.12.3-r4 witch was quick masked. In bug #303159 is a patch to solve compiz problem also (kde4 related). Ok, one more bug to squash: evince. All this in one night of compiling and half of hour work in the morning.
Can Gentoo be better ?

xaviermiller · Post by **xaviermiller** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:43 pm

Hello,

I didn't recompile everithing. The gcc/glibc ABI's are quite stable since 2-3 years.

bormooski · Post by **bormooski** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:28 pm

this thread will never die.

desultory · Post by **desultory** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:05 am

bormooski wrote:this thread will never die.

Perhaps, but this incarnation is set to meet its end within the next few pages.

step · Post by **step** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:48 pm

8 years with gentoo and no plans to quit

micro_mx · Post by **micro_mx** » Thu May 27, 2010 7:03 pm

I like to distro hop, but eventually I always come back to gentoo

Mike Hunt · Post by **Mike Hunt** » Sat May 29, 2010 3:47 pm

I've done plenty of distro hopping,

Waste of time in my opinion.

There's no place like Home, and Home is Gentoo. Period.

Happy day,

MH

kimmie · Post by **kimmie** » Sat May 29, 2010 4:02 pm

If you want to know what's under the hood, gentoo is the only place to be. Sure there are small glitches from time to time, but does the time spent coping with these add up to the time required to do a full reinstall to upgrade your OS? I very much doubt it. Besides, nothing beats gentoo if you want to learn stuff.

I've run it since 2004, on 5 different boxes and a number of VM's, each time I've cloned a previous install and gone from there. I run stable with a few testing packages, I don't want bleeding edge except in a few specific cases. That's my choice. You can't do any of this with Ubuntu, or Redhat (or OS X, or Windows... may it be forever cursed for taking the fun out of computers). Plus, these forums have a terrific signal to noise ratio, and are full of polite helpful people.

Gentoo is F'n fantastic!

kernelOfTruth · Post by **kernelOfTruth** » Sat May 29, 2010 5:32 pm

Mike Hunt wrote:I've done plenty of distro hopping,

Waste of time in my opinion.

There's no place like Home, and Home is Gentoo. Period.

Happy day,

MH

word !

donewithgentoo · Post by **donewithgentoo** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:00 pm

I've used Gentoo since 2003, back when you bootstrap stage 1 and all that. I used to think that the enormous number of hours one needed to put in to make things work was fun... but in the years since I guess I've grown up a little bit. Not that I don't appreciate the linux-literacy that's given me. That has, in fact, been useful. But today I've fought with the OS for the last time. Setting up a wireless card shouldn't be that hard. I'm not a genius by any measure, but after all those years of experience with my own system, and several hours of focused effort, the fact that I can't connect to a wireless network with gentoo is simply ridiculous. Linux is a proven solution for many difficult and important computing tasks, but I'm just done fighting with this distro as a usable desktop machine.

- done with gentoo

Jaglover · Post by **Jaglover** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:38 pm

Wrong forum, I guess. These forums are about running and enjoying Gentoo. If you've decided Gentoo is not for you, what this has to do with us?

tomk · Post by **tomk** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:02 am

Merged previous two posts.

propofool · Post by **propofool** » Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:44 pm

red hat debian have the same time pissing away requirements , just different problems

GWilliam · Post by **GWilliam** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:04 am

#NULL

kimmie · Post by **kimmie** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:58 pm

Gwilliam:

There are other source-based distributions.

True, and I haven't tried them. The big thing for me about a source distribution per se was just being able to "ebuild ($equery w ... unpack" and then be able to poke around, attempt to fix bugs in the packages I was running. If other source based distributions make it this easy, that's great.

Using Gentoo taught me much more about Gentoo (Portage, slots, overlays, emerge, baselayout, Gentoo's meta-packages, sets, USE flags, et ceterarn quite so much regarding things that are unique to that particular distribution.

I would argue that this insn't unique to Gentoo. Studying portage taught me the mechanics of buiding a distribution in the first place, lead me to autoconf, what to expect from a package manager, how dependencies and multiple versions are handled. I class this as "under the hood" too. Because I had to make my own choices, I learned much more. When it came around to having to maintain a CentOS or Redhat system, or install a package from source somewhere without a package manager, I found I picked it up with little effort because I already understood the concepts. Learning this stuff means you learn about distributions in general, not just about Gentoo. Once again, this might apply to other source distributions too, I don't know.

jameskevin · Post by **jameskevin** » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:28 am

Vote the “Even better than ever”

Muso · Post by **Muso** » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:53 am

jameskevin wrote:Vote the “Even better than ever”

++

I'm happier than ever with Gentoo.

john.newman · Post by **john.newman** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:53 pm

Every time i try to update, ONE or MORE packages fail to build, usually due to some dependency that decided to change its API or pure carelessness. Mistakes happen I understand, but it's beyond the point of acceptability.

Portage is just absolutely FUBAR anymore. I started using gentoo back in 2000 and every now and then I'd expect some issues (that sometimes were on my end, sometimes were work-aroundable), but for the past 18 months I don't remember one time when an emerge -u actually worked. Wait a few weeks, emerge --sync, emerge -u and THAT package worked, and then another one is broken. cycle is repeated.

net-tools-1.60-P201108AbsoluteBleedingEdge - will not compile. I need to do emerge -e system for some new hardware, can't get past this, can't install X, and I cant even paste text into the links browser to report the bug. wasting time. ubnutu-server.iso just finished downloading.

cheers. The door did not hit me on the way out.

cach0rr0 · Post by **cach0rr0** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:13 pm

merged the above post with existing topic

rants/complaints go here, not the support forums
if you want help getting an issue resolved, post a question in the support forums, and we'll answer it happily
if you don't want help, and just want to rant/complain, or say how mad you are gentoo kicked your dog or ate your newborn, post here

NB: when a package fails to compile, which of these is more likely:

-there is a bug upstream, and this is one of the things you learn to live with in choosing a source-based distribution; an issue binary distros do not have
-the package manager is totally teh sux0r

krinn · Post by **krinn** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:20 pm

net-tools-1.60-P201108AbsoluteBleedingEdge VS ubnutu-server.iso

took me 2s to find the sux0r, i win something?

joaopft · Post by **joaopft** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:17 pm

Install the whole thing from BLOBs? That's evil. Gringotts' goblins can slip nasty code in between

I'M DONE - 4 YEARS of Gentoo is ENOUGH. (Ed. 2010 - ...)

done with gentoo

Broken packages is the norm - i'm done with this crap