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KDE 4 in gentoo portage? - Part 2

Problems with GUI applications? Questions about X, KDE, Gnome, Fluxbox, etc.? Come on in. NOTE: For multimedia, go up one forum
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Post by epsilon72 » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:55 am

Anyone else having memory issues?

My mem usage keeps going up...and up....and up.......not very fast mind you, but if I'm on for a couple hours it gets up to around 500mb...

Running 4.1.2 with amd64, with the effects turned on.
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Post by mystified » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:48 pm

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong:

I ran emerge -uD world and I'm getting the following:

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--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.keywords: x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.1
WARNING: repository at /usr/local/portage is missing a repo_name entry

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "x11-libs/qt-gui:4[accessibility,dbus]" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.2 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
- x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
- x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.0 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Ingmar Vanhassel <ingmar@gentoo.org> (10 Mar 2008)
# Masked for testing, various dependencies still need to be updated...
# yngwin 12 Aug 08: unmasking only 4.4.1, leaving 4.4.0 in place for
# the moment, pending later removal


For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
(dependency required by "kde-base/kurifilter-plugins-4.1.2" [ebuild])
I'm getting an invalid atom from my unmasking x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.1
What am I doing wrong?

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Post by Boccaccio » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:55 pm

Put qt-gui in your packages.keywords.
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Post by paulj » Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:48 pm

Success - full compilation, and everything appears to be running normally. This will now be my primary desktop - let's see if I can break something! :D

Thanks to all the devs and supporters who took the process this far!
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Post by tnt » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:09 pm

kdm fails to login with the following log content:

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[config/dbus] couldn't register object path
expected keysym, got XF86Info: line 914 of inet
expected keysym, got XF86Info: line 914 of inet
kdmgreet(11011) KLocalePrivate::initEncoding: Cannot resolve system encoding, defaulting to ISO 8859-1.
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Post by desultory » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:19 pm

mystified wrote:

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--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.keywords: x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.1
To accept off profile keywords on a specific version of a package prefix the category/package-version atom with an '=', in this case use =x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.1 instead of x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.1.
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Post by F-0_ICE » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:48 am

i just found out something else wrong with konqueror exit kde and any config changes i make are undone.

i haven been through every setting i could thinks of but what causes these problems with konqueror beats the heck out of me. :?
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Post by mystified » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:44 am

Boccaccio wrote:Put qt-gui in your packages.keywords.
I had that in my keywords and this is what I got:

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emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy "x11-libs/qt-gui:4[accessibility,dbus]".
!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.2 (Change USE: +dbus)
(dependency required by "kde-base/kurifilter-plugins-4.1.2" [ebuild])
emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy "x11-libs/qt-gui:4[accessibility,dbus]".
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Post by Boccaccio » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:49 am

You have to compile it with the dbus use flag.
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Post by mystified » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:18 am

Now I get this

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entoo mystified # USE=dbus emerge qt-gui
WARNING: repository at /usr/local/portage is missing a repo_name entry
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.2  USE="qt3support ssl -debug -doc -glib -pch"
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.4.2  USE="-debug -pch"
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/qt-script-4.4.2  USE="-debug -pch"
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/qt-sql-4.4.2  USE="mysql qt3support sqlite -debug -firebird -odbc -pch -postgres"
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.2  USE="accessibility cups dbus qt3support -debug -glib -mng -nas -nis -pch -tiff -xinerama" INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom"
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.4.2  USE="accessibility -debug -pch"
[blocks B     ] x11-libs/qt-core ("x11-libs/qt-core" is blocking x11-libs/qt-4.3.3)
[blocks B     ] <=x11-libs/qt-4.4.0_alpha:4 ("<=x11-libs/qt-4.4.0_alpha:4" is blocking x11-libs/qt-script-4.4.2, x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.4.2, x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.4.2, x11-libs/qt-sql-4.4.2, x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.2, x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.2)

 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.
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Post by Boccaccio » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:26 am

You should put <x11-libs/qt-4.4.2 into package.mask
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Post by d-fens » Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:13 am

widremann wrote:
F-0_ICE wrote:i have a couple problems with kde3 while 4 is installed
1. konqueror is missing buttons on the main toolbar forward, back, home, etc the only one showing are the refresh, stop, zoom in/out buttons. even after i restore the defaults on all toolbars and restart kde the problem persists.

opening quick launch applets on kicker opens in dolphin instead of konqueror. (same thing happens with the media device applet)

and a couple of kde4 things start in the background ( kded4 and kdeinit4) from what i can tell just those two.

as for kde4 itself the only thing i can tell that might be some kind of bug is that none of the widgets on the add widgets window have any description. everything else i have a problem with appears to be with features the aren't implemented yet.

personally i am waiting for khotkeys to be completed since it looks very basic right now and seems to lack what kde3 has, and kde4 ports of my favorite apps. namely ktorrent which the kde4 version is already in portage, kaffeine and kplayer according to the homepage of the last one at least
the first kde4 port has been relaesed. an the kaffeine devs are working on their kde4 port.

but from what i have seen i expect great things from kde4 when all it gets more features implemented.

thanks for all the great work. while i may not use kde4 now i will keep it installed to see how well it plays with kde3 installed.
I have the same problems with Konqueror in KDE 3. Really f*cking annoying if you ask me and I'm not clear why/how that could happen. I'm also annoyed that starting any program from the command line results in the KDE 4 version starting by default instead of kde 3.
i fixed some stuff by upgrading to 3.5.10 (startkde + kdelibs mainly ) but my 3.5 still is borked:

* the konqueror toolbar issue is still there
* kwallet won't start automatically [edit: readded manually, works now]
* kmail is asking for pass everytime and forgot its imap (receive) settings [edit: wallet now working, incoming settings still lost (when testing by copying backup .kde3.5 to .kde)]
* firefox without decoration... [edit: press F11 twice solves this .. :o ))
* CRTL Key doesn't work... [ edit: compiz-wrapper issue solved, bug when not starting using kdm]

might be some xorg /compiz issues during the 4.1.2 update ? any fixes or bug reports?
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Post by Etal » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:15 pm

mystified wrote:Now I get this

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entoo mystified # USE=dbus emerge qt-gui
WARNING: repository at /usr/local/portage is missing a repo_name entry
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.2  USE="qt3support ssl -debug -doc -glib -pch"
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.4.2  USE="-debug -pch"
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/qt-script-4.4.2  USE="-debug -pch"
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/qt-sql-4.4.2  USE="mysql qt3support sqlite -debug -firebird -odbc -pch -postgres"
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.2  USE="accessibility cups dbus qt3support -debug -glib -mng -nas -nis -pch -tiff -xinerama" INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom"
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.4.2  USE="accessibility -debug -pch"
[blocks B     ] x11-libs/qt-core ("x11-libs/qt-core" is blocking x11-libs/qt-4.3.3)
[blocks B     ] <=x11-libs/qt-4.4.0_alpha:4 ("<=x11-libs/qt-4.4.0_alpha:4" is blocking x11-libs/qt-script-4.4.2, x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.4.2, x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.4.2, x11-libs/qt-sql-4.4.2, x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.2, x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.2)

 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.
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Post by xenon » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:05 pm

F-0_ICE wrote:i just found out something else wrong with konqueror exit kde and any config changes i make are undone.

i haven been through every setting i could thinks of but what causes these problems with konqueror beats the heck out of me. :?
I have the same impression, or to be correct, it seems to me the settings are not even applied once, rather than lost on KDE exit. For example, I can't convince Konqueror to open popups in tabs instead of new windows, nor to do the same with externally called URLs. If this is indeed a bug, it's certainly a regression since I didn't experience such a problem with KDE 4.1.1.
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Post by jkomar » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:00 pm

Smoothhound wrote:Hi All,

...snip

2. Korganizer components (calendar, journal etc.) are no longer available in Kontact, although the standalone Korganizer works fine

snip...

Cheers.
Did you get anywhere on this one? I just ran into it this morning and haven't been able to find a solution either through much searching or playing around.

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Post by paulj » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:00 pm

I haven't (yet!) experienced the problem with settings not being saved on 4.1, but during previous big kde upgrades I have had problems when the relevant ~/.kde configuration directory has carried over from previous versions. Normally renaming the directory while kde is not running, and then starting kde will give a completely fresh config directory. If that doesn't solve the problem, you can mv the copy back to ~/.kde (or ~/.kde4.1 if that was the relevant directory). Note - .kde maybe a symbolic link to .kde4.1 or such. Check your configuration and adjust the commands accordingly before proceeding :)
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Post by F-0_ICE » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:14 pm

i found a way to get buttons back on the konqueror toolbar.

1 open the toolbar config for the main toolbar
2 remove all currently listed buttons click ok
3 repeat 1 and manually add the buttons you want.

this works for the main toolbar and lasts through both closing konqueror and restart kde. i don't know about any other toolbars.

a few other things

shortcut settings stay in effect after closing and reopening konqueror but will reset after a kde restart

the main konqueror config still seems to work properly

the dolphin issue is still in effect.
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Post by epsilon72 » Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:36 am

I haven't had any problems with toolbars...I've made changes to dolphin's toolbar and the changes stuck. My menu though was a big mess when I first logged into kde 4. I couldn't make any changes to it. Deleting my ~/.kde directory and resetting the menu fixed the problem.

After using it a bit more I've found that it stops eating memory when my mem usage is around 17% of my 2gigs..both X and kwin take up a good chunk of memory at that point. This is after using programs like dolphin, konsole, kopete, and firefox for about an hour and then closing all of them. I don't really have any plasmoids/widget things active either other than the stuff that comes by default with the panel.

I thought KDE 4 was supposed to use less memory than 3.5? I'm posting this from another amd64 gentoo box with 2 gigs of ram, and with kde 3.5.9 running and under the same usage that I outlined above it never is above around 8 or 9% usage Both boxes only use around 3% when started with fluxbox, so it's not due to non-KDE stuff.

I guess it's not that big of a problem as I still have plenty of memory to spare..but I'm just curious as to what the cause is.
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gentoo so slow in upgrading

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Post by dragontitan » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:45 pm

yes, i know i'm about to be ripped a new one...

yes, i know gentoo is the whole non-profit volunteer thing...

yes, i love gentoo and it's balanced interface between genius and simplicity...

but, i simply don't have extra time to read 30 forum pages of info...

to tweak various settings...

to play with my computer when i need to be doing other things...

yet, i want to stay with gentoo...

yet, i want to use the newest software...

kde4... kdelibs-4.0.0 (17 Jan 2008) ... first mention i can quickly find in the changelog...

current date = 2008-10-15... almost a year later...

this will be the death of gentoo...

if gentoo is going to be a side project for the maintainers/developers, let go and get out...

if you want to further gentoo, then further gentoo...

BECAUSE gentoo is dragging... very much so...

and don't yell at me...

i don't code...

but i've donated over $2K dollars... so i feel i have a say...
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Post by F-0_ICE » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:04 pm

epsilon72 wrote:I haven't had any problems with toolbars...I've made changes to dolphin's toolbar and the changes stuck.
thats because the toolbar issue is with konqueror under kde3.

the dolphin issue (on page 6 i think) is that in kde3 everything opens with dolphin instead of konqueror.

sorry if i caused some confusion.
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Post by Nephilim666 » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:46 pm

dragontitan wrote:
kde4... kdelibs-4.0.0 (17 Jan 2008) ... first mention i can quickly find in the changelog...

current date = 2008-10-15... almost a year later...

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odin loki # emerge -av  kdelibs

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.2-r1  USE="3dnow acl alsa bzip2 fam htmlhandbook kerberos mmx nls opengl semantic-desktop spell sse sse2 ssl (-altivec) -bindist -debug -doc -jpeg2k -kdeprefix -openexr -test -zeroconf" 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB

Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] 

Please check your package.keywords file. ;)
dragontitan wrote:this will be the death of gentoo...

if gentoo is going to be a side project for the maintainers/developers, let go and get out...

if you want to further gentoo, then further gentoo...

BECAUSE gentoo is dragging... very much so...

and don't yell at me...

i don't code...

but i've donated over $2K dollars... so i feel i have a say...
No! Donating money doesn't give you anything but a warm feeling inside. Contributing to the project does give you a say.
But anyways, I think you need to catch up with the actual developments, before drawing conclusions.

Cheers!
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Post by krisse » Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:00 am

dragontitan wrote:[...]
kde4... kdelibs-4.0.0 (17 Jan 2008) ... first mention i can quickly find in the changelog...

current date = 2008-10-15... almost a year later...
[...]
http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/kde-base/kdelibs/ChangeLog?view=markup wrote:*kdelibs-3.5.10-r2 (12 Oct 2008)
[...]
*kdelibs-3.5.10-r1 (07 Oct 2008)
[...]
*kdelibs-4.1.2-r1 (07 Oct 2008)
[...]
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Post by tnt » Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:43 pm

so, if I copy @kdebase set to my /etc/portage/sets and then

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emerge @kdebase
will I get complete kde-4.1.2 ???
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Post by Sensus » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:54 am

tnt wrote:so, if I copy @kdebase set to my /etc/portage/sets and then

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emerge @kdebase
will I get complete kde-4.1.2 ???
No, but a fairly large one (in comparison to the old meta-packages). For a full KDE install you can use @kde-4
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Sensus wrote:
tnt wrote:so, if I copy @kdebase set to my /etc/portage/sets and then

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emerge @kdebase
will I get complete kde-4.1.2 ???
No, but a fairly large one (in comparison to the old meta-packages). For a full KDE install you can use @kde-4
saved @kde-4 set from:
http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/? ... ;hb=master
http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/? ... ;hb=master

but got this message although my gentoo install is clean one, started from zero with ~amd64 and no package.mask file:

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emerge -pv @kde-4

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes:kde-4" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes-4.0.5 (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto <jmbsvicetto@gentoo.org> (03 Sep 2008)
# Restrict the following mask only to 4.0.* packages. KDE-4.1 won't enter
# the tree p. masked.
# Ingmar Vanhassel <ingmar@gentoo.org> (16 Jan 2008)
# Mask KDE 4.0.x for testing. This release of KDE 4 will not be unmasked.
# This is still not intended for mainstream so DO NOT KEYWORD IT without
# talking to the KDE herd first.
# KDE 4 guide: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4.xml

- kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes-4.0.4 (masked by: package.mask)

For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
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