How to OpenRC

[choogi]

I've been reading a bit about baselayout-2 and OpenRC (which seems to be popular). Which one do you all use? I want to try OpenRC but it's not in portage...do I just download the source and run a "make install"?

[bilbotux]

I've been reading a bit about baselayout-2 and OpenRC (which seems to be popular). Which one do you all use? I want to try OpenRC but it's not in portage...do I just download the source and run a "make install"?

There is an overlay with an ebuild available: simply install layman, and then layman -a openrc.

[mark_alec]

Moved from Other Things Gentoo to Unsupported Software.

[kernelOfTruth]

@bilbotux:

Il'y a un topic sur baselayout-2/openrc dans le subforum francais, que peut être t'interesse

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-47 ... ml#4787783

[choogi]

I added openrc to the layman overlay and tried emerging openrc, but this is the output it get:

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Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0 [1.12.11.1] USE="-bootstrap -build (-static%) (-unicode%*)" 29 kB [0=>1]
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/openrc-9999  USE="ncurses pam unicode -static" 0 kB [1]
[blocks B     ] <sys-fs/udev-118-r2 (is blocking sys-apps/openrc-9999)

Total: 2 packages (1 upgrade, 1 new, 1 block), Size of downloads: 29 kB
Portage tree and overlays:
 [0] /usr/portage
 [1] /usr/portage/local/layman/openrc

!!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed
!!!        at the same time on the same system.

For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following
section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked

Is this normal? How should I get by the udev blocking openrc? I'm kind of afraid of unmerging it and hoping it fixes itself later...

[kernelOfTruth]

you can unmerge it temporarily, but be sure to re-emerge it before rebooting / shutting down

make a backup (just in case):

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quickpkg --include-config=y udev

after openrc re-emerge udev

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emerge -1 udev

[gimpel]

No!!
Simply unmask udev, then openrc should pull in a newer version. Newer versions of udev are ~arch masked.

[choogi]

okay cool! i added udev to my package.keywords.

now i'm emerging openrc but i get this error at the end:

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make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/openrc-9999/work/openrc-9999/runlevels'
>>> Completed installing openrc-9999 into /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/openrc-9999/image/

ecompressdir: bzip2 -9 /usr/share/man
strip: i686-pc-linux-gnu-strip --strip-unneeded -R .comment
   lib/librc.so.1
   lib/libeinfo.so.1
   sbin/rc
   usr/lib/librc.a
   usr/lib/libeinfo.a
making executable: lib/libeinfo.so.1
making executable: lib/librc.so.1
* checking 236 files for package collisions
>>> Merging sys-apps/openrc-9999 to /
 * No state found, and no state exists
 * You should reboot this host
--- /bin/
--- /etc/
--- /etc/pam.d/
>>> /etc/pam.d/start-stop-daemon
--- /etc/conf.d/
>>> /etc/conf.d/net
>>> /etc/conf.d/fsck
>>> /etc/conf.d/keymaps
>>> /etc/conf.d/._cfg0004_clock
>>> /etc/conf.d/local
>>> /etc/conf.d/consolefont
>>> /etc/conf.d/modules
>>> /etc/conf.d/._cfg0003_hostname
>>> /etc/conf.d/urandom
>>> /etc/conf.d/._cfg0003_bootmisc
--- /etc/init.d/
>>> /etc/init.d/fsck
>>> /etc/init.d/mtab
>>> /etc/init.d/root
>>> /etc/init.d/swap
>>> /etc/init.d/keymaps
>>> /etc/init.d/._cfg0004_clock
>>> /etc/init.d/local
>>> /etc/init.d/._cfg0003_localmount
>>> /etc/init.d/consolefont
>>> /etc/init.d/modules
>>> /etc/init.d/hostname
>>> /etc/init.d/._cfg0003_halt.sh
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 6971, in <module>
    retval = emerge_main()
  File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 6965, in emerge_main
    myopts, myaction, myfiles, spinner)
  File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 6395, in action_build
    retval = mergetask.merge(pkglist, favorites, mtimedb)
  File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 3981, in merge
    return self._merge(mylist, favorites, mtimedb)
  File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 4259, in _merge
    prev_mtimes=ldpath_mtimes)
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 4818, in doebuild
    vartree=vartree, prev_mtimes=prev_mtimes)
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 5013, in merge
    mydbapi=mydbapi, prev_mtimes=prev_mtimes)
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 9486, in merge
    mydbapi=mydbapi, prev_mtimes=prev_mtimes)
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 9494, in _merge
    cleanup=cleanup, mydbapi=mydbapi, prev_mtimes=prev_mtimes)
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 9063, in treewalk
    if self.mergeme(srcroot,destroot,outfile,secondhand,"",cfgfiledict,mymtime):
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 9366, in mergeme
    join(offset, x), cfgfiledict, thismtime):
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 9366, in mergeme
    join(offset, x), cfgfiledict, thismtime):
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 9294, in mergeme
    mydest = new_protect_filename(mydest,newmd5=newmd5)
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_util.py", line 1044, in new_protect_filename
    os.path.join(real_dirname, last_pfile)) == newmd5:
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_checksum.py", line 114, in perform_md5
    return perform_checksum(x, "MD5", calc_prelink)[0]
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_checksum.py", line 228, in perform_checksum
    raise portage_exception.FileNotFound(myfilename)
portage_exception.FileNotFound: /etc/init.d/._cfg0001_net.lo

what does this mean? i couldn't find this error online

[gimpel]

okay cool! i added udev to my package.keywords.

now i'm emerging openrc but i get this error at the end:

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make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/openrc-9999/work/openrc-9999/runlevels'
>>> Completed installing openrc-9999 into /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/openrc-9999/image/

ecompressdir: bzip2 -9 /usr/share/man
strip: i686-pc-linux-gnu-strip --strip-unneeded -R .comment
   lib/librc.so.1
   lib/libeinfo.so.1
   sbin/rc
   usr/lib/librc.a
   usr/lib/libeinfo.a
making executable: lib/libeinfo.so.1
making executable: lib/librc.so.1
* checking 236 files for package collisions
>>> Merging sys-apps/openrc-9999 to /
 * No state found, and no state exists
 * You should reboot this host

Look closer!

But wait! As you already upgraded baselayout, don't do it!
You're upgrading from baselayout-1, so maybe it is safer/better to first upgrade to baselayout 2.0.0-rc, which is in portage. Then upgrade to baselayout 2.0+openrc

[choogi]

So...I first upgraded to baselayout 2.0.0-rc and restarted, but now i get this weird error message that says:

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Partition /dev/sda5 is mounted with write permissions, cannot check it

where /dev/sda5 is my root partition. fsck doesn't work either because the it's mounted with write permissions so i went ahead and tried running fsck from the live cd but it didn't find anything.

After some googling around, I've concluded that it's probably not a baselayout problem but I downgraded back to baselayout-1 anyways.

I've tried adding ro to my grub line and I've tried typing "sudo mount -o remount,ro /dev/sda5" but then I just get "mount: / is busy"

Perhaps I should just start a new thread for this problem...

ideas?

[gimpel]

Did you update _all_ config files (etc-update) after upgrading?

[choogi]

No...I don't know how to use etc-update...

[Dagger]

isn't it easier to use Uberlord OpenRC overlay?

git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/dev/uberlord.git

you've got all ebuilds provided by the creator of OpenRC. You can find all important info
at his homepage: http://roy.marples.name (including bugzilla).
If you have a problem just report a bug and he will almost instantly help you out!

Thank Roy for your work!

[gimpel]

No...I don't know how to use etc-update...

Erm, you must be joking

You HAVE TO upgrade the config files and init scripts. There is etc-update, dispatch-conf, etc-proposals - get used to one of those, or better don't touch baselayout and the system init. Not doing so WILL break things.

isn't it easier to use Uberlord OpenRC overlay?

git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/dev/uberlord.git

That's exactly what a layman -a openrc gives you.

[kernelOfTruth]

choogi hat Folgendes geschrieben:
No...I don't know how to use etc-update...

Erm, you must be joking

You HAVE TO upgrade the config files and init scripts. There is etc-update, dispatch-conf, etc-proposals - get used to one of those, or better don't touch baselayout and the system init. Not doing so WILL break things.

don't laugh !

there was a time in the beginning when I was in the same boat & didn't have the experience how to do it
the reason: I refused to run it because I had fear that I would "bomb my system" by changing anything - but the bottomline is: not updating will "break" your system even more == in the worst case you can't log in anymore or it won't boot anymore

the solution:
booting via livecd; chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash ; env-update && source /etc/profile ; then really execute etc-update & process the overdue updates

in the beginning after such upgrades often the system wouldn't work for me , so just ask, if you're not sure

@choogi:

believe me it's idiot-proof

just execute

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etc-update

then you'll get presented the changes between old & new file (it's the same file but parts changed):

++ == new parts

-- == old parts

(at the beginning of the line)

you interact with it via:
1, 2, 3, 4 (numbers) in conjunction with enter

think a little about the changes in the file & if you're sure they won't affect your system, accept the new changes

attention !
often updates remove characteristics/settings you entered for your system (after you accepted them)

config-changes are often necessary, e.g. if the changes are pretty big: version 5.2 -> 5.4 of a program and it wouldn't function with old config


the choice is: (simplified)
1) accept (the new file) - you either need your to re-input your settings in certain parts (before that note them down / copy & paste in a backup-file) or simply forget it (if the settings weren't that important)
2) discharge (the new file) -> the new file / state if it would "restore" the file to the "original" state of the author

if you're not sure just type ctrl + c

that'll interrupt the process before you make any changes / damages,

if you're not sure ask in this forum ...

ok, enough story-telling for today

now - get it, tiger

[choogi]

That's a lot of updates I haven't made

I think I'm just going to do a reinstall over the weekend since I still haven't seemed to find a solution to my "root is mounted with write permissions" problem and do etc-update whenever I emerge anything new. Thanks everyone!

[unaos]

how i can get localtime ?

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pleadian ~ $ ls -l /etc/localtime 
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Мар 20 10:52 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Kiev
pleadian ~ $ grep clock= /etc/conf.d/clock 
clock="local"

make no differnce to unset localtime and clock="utc", time don't change - it's 2 hours ahead.

[Nick C]

i think the /etc/conf.d/clock is deprecated in newer versions of openrc/baselayout-2 in favour of *just* using the /etc/localtime symlink.

Worst case set /etc/conf.d/clock to local and link /etc/localtime to the right zone and then set the correct date/time using the date command and hopefully all will be ok

[gimpel]

i think the /etc/conf.d/clock is deprecated in newer versions of openrc/baselayout-2 in favour of *just* using the /etc/localtime symlink.

Worst case set /etc/conf.d/clock to local and link /etc/localtime to the right zone and then set the correct date/time using the date command and hopefully all will be ok

Here it only worked during startup, if i *copied* and not symlinked it. Maybe that's because /usr is on a seperate partition, not sure.

[John R. Graham]

Here it only worked during startup, if i *copied* and not symlinked it. Maybe that's because /usr is on a seperate partition, not sure.

Yes, that's why. "/etc/localtime" is used before all of the mounts in "/etc/fstab" are done, so, if your "/usr" is on a different partition, the symlink method will fail. I like using symlinks when the partitioning is simple, though, because then the time information is automatically updated when updates to sys-libs/timezone-data are released.

- John

[FireBurn]

Would it not be possible to add an after to the localtime script to made sure /usr is mounted first?

[UberLord]

No.

Basically, if /usr is not on /, then /etc/localtime should NOT be a symlink, otherwise crazy things such as bogus mtimes and silly mount times in disk superblocks can happen.

[ppurka]

Then upgrade to baselayout 2.0+openrc

Does this mean that openrc is supposed to be used only in conjunction with baselayout2? I was under the impression that openrc is the replacement for baselayout.

[UberLord]

I was under the impression that openrc is the replacement for baselayout.

It replaces most of it.
baselayout also supplies static files like /etc/passwd which openrc won't.

[Phobos666]

cant fetch the git version

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smashed git-src # git clone git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/proj/openrc.git
Initialized empty Git repository in /usr/portage/distfiles/git-src/openrc/.git/
fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
fetch-pack from 'git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/proj/openrc.git' failed.

or in other words

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smashed git-src # ponly sys-fs/udev
/usr/bin/_paludis_wrapper.bash: line 75: /etc/init.d/functions.sh: No such file or directory
Building target list... 
hooker.bash: Cannot read functions.sh
/usr/bin/paludis@1206647030: [WARNING] Hook '/usr/share/paludis/hooks/auto/update-eix.hook' returned failure '2' for auto hook names
Building dependency list...

These packages will be installed:

* sys-apps/openrc::openrc [N 9999]
    "OpenRC manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host"
    ncurses pam -static unicode kernel: (-FreeBSD) (linux)
* sys-fs/udev [U 115-r1 -> 118-r2] <target>
    (-selinux)
    195.17 kBytes to download

Total: 2 packages (1 new, 1 upgrade), at most 195.17 kBytes to download

Use flags:

* ncurses:         Adds ncurses support (console display library)
* pam:             Adds support PAM (Pluggable Authentication Modules) - DANGEROUS to arbitrarily flip
* static:          !!do not set this during bootstrap!! Causes binaries to be statically linked instead of dynamically
* unicode:         Adds support for Unicode

kernel:

* FreeBSD:         KERNEL setting for system using the FreeBSD kernel.
* linux:           KERNEL setting for systems using the Linux kernel
paludis-ask>  * Do you want to perform this operation ... 
paludis-ask> Type y/yes/ENTER to continue ... [Y/n] 

(1 of 2) Installing sys-apps/openrc-9999:0::openrc

>>> Running ebuild phase killold as root:root...
>>> Starting builtin_killold
>>> Done builtin_killold
>>> Completed ebuild phase killold
>>> Running ebuild phases init saveenv as paludisbuild:paludisbuild...
>>> Starting builtin_init
>>> Done builtin_init
>>> Starting builtin_saveenv
>>> Done builtin_saveenv
>>> Completed ebuild phases init saveenv
>>> Running ebuild phases loadenv setup saveenv as root:root...
>>> Starting builtin_loadenv
>>> Done builtin_loadenv
>>> Starting pkg_setup
>>> Done pkg_setup
>>> Starting builtin_saveenv
>>> Done builtin_saveenv
>>> Completed ebuild phases loadenv setup saveenv
>>> Running ebuild phases loadenv unpack compile saveenv as paludisbuild:paludisbuild...
>>> Starting builtin_loadenv
>>> Done builtin_loadenv
>>> Starting src_unpack
 * git clone start -->
 *    repository: git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/proj/openrc.git
Initialized empty Git repository in /usr/portage/distfiles/git-src/openrc/
fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
fetch-pack from 'git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/proj/openrc.git' failed.

!!! ERROR in sys-apps/openrc-9999:
!!! In git_fetch at line 2671
!!! git.eclass: can't fetch from git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/proj/openrc.git.

!!! Call stack:
!!!    * git_fetch (/var/tmp/paludis/sys-apps/openrc-9999/temp/loadsaveenv:2671)
!!!    * git_src_unpack (/var/tmp/paludis/sys-apps/openrc-9999/temp/loadsaveenv:2695)
!!!    * src_unpack (/var/tmp/paludis/sys-apps/openrc-9999/temp/loadsaveenv:3788)
!!!    * ebuild_f_unpack (/usr/libexec/paludis/0/src_unpack.bash:42)
!!!    * ebuild_main (/usr/libexec/paludis/ebuild.bash:462)
!!!    * main (/usr/libexec/paludis/ebuild.bash:480)

diefunc: making ebuild PID 21052 exit with error
die trap: exiting with error.

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please fix this FAST cause i think i cant reboot now cause i cant start services right now:

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smashed git-src # rc-config start fancontrol
Starting init script
/usr/share/eselect//modules/rc.eselect: line 69: /sbin/runscript: No such file or directory