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tomk · Post by **tomk** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:24 pm

If you've got any questions about the recent UTF-8 conversion or you notice any posts that haven't been converted correctly post them here and we'll deal with them on a case-by-case basis.

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Mod Edit by NeddySeagoon - fixed typo and stuck
mod edit - stick removed 20080219 -- thinkurs11

tsuehpsyde · Post by **tsuehpsyde** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:09 pm

Everything looks good guys. Thanks for the hard work, and glad to see the forums back online again.

tuam · Post by **tuam** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:14 pm

Will there be a documentation of how you converted everything, and what went wrong the first time?

FF and keep up the good work!

Daniel

paulj · Post by **paulj** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:58 pm

Thanks gents! Great job.

i92guboj · Post by **i92guboj** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:15 pm

Finally: UTF-8

Everything seems to be on its correct place.

Thanks! All the -big- effort is appreciated.

tomk · Post by **tomk** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:18 pm

tuam wrote:Will there be a documentation of how you converted everything, and what went wrong the first time?

FF and keep up the good work!

Daniel

Yes, I'll be writing up something about the whole process including the problems we encountered along the way, but not just yet, I'm putting my feet up for a couple of days

lefou · Post by **lefou** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:23 pm

Many thanks for you engagement to provide one of the coolest linux forums available. Everything looks good right now but the feeling is that it even looks better than before.

Keep up the good work. I would like to read your experiences with the migration, too!

Drewgrange · Post by **Drewgrange** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:29 am

I apologize if this should be obvious, but what's the main benefit of moving to UTF-8? Is it meant to help with non-english languages?

i92guboj · Post by **i92guboj** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:37 am

Drewgrange wrote:I apologize if this should be obvious, but what's the main benefit of moving to UTF-8? Is it meant to help with non-english languages?

Unless your browser can auto-adjust the charsets, using more than one is a pain. In a forum like this, where you might be participating in Spanish, English, German, French, Portuguesse and Italian sections (just an example, I am not that smart

), this is quite a pain in the ass. Not to talk about non-latin alphabets, like Russian or Chinesse.

UTF-8 is the "one charset to rule them all". Besides that, it is the future. It aims to support all the characters contained within all alphabets around the Earth (and I bet that there's any freak out there that is working in Klingon support for it

).

It is definitely, the way to go on an international, multilingual, forum.

padoor · Post by **padoor** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:59 am

currently i see that the font size has become smaller in ie. firefox i have not tried yet.

what are things to check if everything ok.
what are things visibly changed. i did not find any difference so far except it is more difficult to read in internet explorer in windows.

this proved that we / atleast i cannot do without the forum uo and running always when i am working with gentoo.
felt was driving a car without a steering wheel

happy welcome back gentoo forums

worth mention is i lost my X with last upgrade to 1.4 ver server. after lot of thinking re emrging old server 1.3 i found it is needed to emerge all drivers too after server change. now i got back latest x server running nice.

NathanZachary · Post by **NathanZachary** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:24 am

VERY glad to the have the fora back. I have noticed that it seems to be more responsive now than it used to be, but I don't know how upgrading to MySQL5 would do that.

Anyway, thank you so much for the hard work!

think4urs11 · Post by **think4urs11** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:58 am

gentoo_zach wrote:VERY glad to the have the fora back. I have noticed that it seems to be more responsive now than it used to be, but I don't know how upgrading to MySQL5 would do that. Anyway, thank you so much for the hard work!

The MySQL5 server is a more powerful, newer machine so that might be one of the reasons.

frenkel · Post by **frenkel** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:17 am

tomk wrote:
tuam wrote:Will there be a documentation of how you converted everything, and what went wrong the first time?

FF and keep up the good work!

Daniel
Yes, I'll be writing up something about the whole process including the problems we encountered along the way, but not just yet, I'm putting my feet up for a couple of days

Good work! It would indeed be nice to read how it went and what went wrong, but take your time, you have earned it!

Diezel · Post by **Diezel** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:34 pm

i92guboj wrote: UTF-8 is the "one charset to rule them all". Besides that, it is the future. .

That comment makes me want to watch Lord of the rings again.

Zagloj · Post by **Zagloj** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:42 pm

Thank you guys!!! great work, now I can read Russian forum

duby2291 · Post by **duby2291** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:28 pm

I'm not sure if this is due to the UTF-8 conversion or not, but the forums are --lightning-- fast. Click a link and it opens damn near instant.

Excellent work. Very impressed.

runningwithscissors · Post by **runningwithscissors** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:27 am

duby2291 wrote:I'm not sure if this is due to the UTF-8 conversion or not, but the forums are --lightning-- fast. Click a link and it opens damn near instant.

Excellent work. Very impressed.

It's got nothing to do with UTF-8. They've just riced the forums server.

VinzC · Post by **VinzC** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:49 pm

Ok, I'm going to congrat you guys for the work. I guess it's been a little stressing in the end given the long downtime

. Good work and thank you again.

One little thing to notice though: I receive notifications from the forums in French to my hotmail account. The funny thing is accented characters in the subject line are displayed in the mail list pane as if they were plain ASCII, i.e. an accented 'e' --> 'é' appears as a 'Ã©' :rotfl: ... although hotmail pages are encoded in UTF-8! Now, when I open the message the subject line appears with proper UTF-8 characters... :rotflmfao: (Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Freaking Ass Off) I have no idea on whether it's due to the new Live Hotmail interface.

Ah... TinyWare... Always a good laugh!

EDIT:
Tiny --> Micro
Ware --> Soft

VinzC · Post by **VinzC** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:02 pm

i92guboj wrote:It aims to support all the characters contained within all alphabets around the Earth (and I bet that there's any freak out there that is working in Klingon support for it ).

Why only Klingon and not Andorian? Do you, pink faces, have anything against Andorian People?

ikshaar · Post by **ikshaar** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:31 pm

VinzC wrote:One little thing to notice though: I receive notifications from the forums in French to my hotmail account. The funny thing is accented characters in the subject line are displayed in the mail list pane as if they were plain ASCII, i.e. an accented 'e' --> 'é' appears as a 'Ã©' :rotfl: ... although hotmail pages are encoded in UTF-8! Now, when I open the message the subject line appears with proper UTF-8 characters... :rotflmfao: (Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Freaking Ass Off) I have no idea on whether it's due to the new Live Hotmail interface.

If it displays fine in one UI and not another, then yes it's probably a bad coding of the UI of Live.

tomk · Post by **tomk** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:38 pm

VinzC wrote:One little thing to notice though: I receive notifications from the forums in French to my hotmail account. The funny thing is accented characters in the subject line are displayed in the mail list pane as if they were plain ASCII, i.e. an accented 'e' --> 'é' appears as a 'Ã©' :rotfl: ... although hotmail pages are encoded in UTF-8! Now, when I open the message the subject line appears with proper UTF-8 characters... :rotflmfao: (Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Freaking Ass Off) I have no idea on whether it's due to the new Live Hotmail interface.

Works for me in mutt so looks like it's Hotmail's problem.

VinzC · Post by **VinzC** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:12 am

Sure, it has nothing to do with phpBB, it was so much obvious to me that tech people behind the fora *do* know what they're doing... unlinke TinyWare

.

Sorry for the troll... Just couldn't resist.

Flammie · Post by **Flammie** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:32 am

VinzC wrote:
i92guboj wrote:It aims to support all the characters contained within all alphabets around the Earth (and I bet that there's any freak out there that is working in Klingon support for it ).
Why only Klingon and not Andorian? Do you, pink faces, have anything against Andorian People?

I suppose Andorian character set is not as well documented. For Klingon there’s¹ at least two normative references and three klingon language books published. Although the request for Klingon was rejected by Unicode committee, it’s now quite stable at private use block.

¹ You can also use apostrophes that are curly with unicode safely now! Yay.

Timz · Post by **Timz** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:14 pm

I'm impatient to read your process notes about it.

Also thank you very much for all the job done and the time you take for doing it.

VinzC · Post by **VinzC** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:03 pm

Flammie wrote:...
I suppose Andorian character set is not as well documented. For Klingon there’s¹ at least two normative references and three klingon language books published. Although the request for Klingon was rejected by Unicode committee, it’s now quite stable at private use block.

¹ You can also use apostrophes that are curly with unicode safely now! Yay.

Do you mean the ones that you've just put in your last two sentences? If so they don't appear curly on my side but I guess that's just because I'm using Arial for my default font?

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