Firefox 2.0 officially out.

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stupidkid · Post by **stupidkid** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:37 am

When I press backspace, 2.0 doesn't go back, but scrolls the page up. Is there a way to change that?

Dlareh · Post by **Dlareh** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:44 am

stupidkid wrote:When I press backspace, 2.0 doesn't go back, but scrolls the page up. Is there a way to change that?

about:config search for browser.backspace_action change it to 0

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nutbar21 · Post by **nutbar21** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:45 am

Dlareh wrote:
stupidkid wrote:When I press backspace, 2.0 doesn't go back, but scrolls the page up. Is there a way to change that?
about:config search for browser.backspace_action change it to 0

This post brought to you by the words firefox, backspace, www.google.com , and 3 mouse clicks

Good call. I had been wondering that myself.

effloresce · Post by **effloresce** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:26 pm

The one thing I really hate about 2.0 is that you (me?) cant just click the down arrow on the address bar and click a previous visited site and it just go there. I seem to have to click enter after that or that little go button thing I've always hated.

EDIT: Seems to be problem caused by TabBrowser Preferences.

Biert · Post by **Biert** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:59 pm

I'm very happy with Firefox 2.0. It seems much more stable (although that could be caused by the fact that I had to/could get rid of a load of extensions). I does no longer crash on startup, hang when a lot of tabs are opened at the same time or when there's Flash on a website (AMD64 version with nspluginwrapper and netscape-flash).

One thing I'm not happy with: font size has shrunken to almost illegible levels. My Linux-Firefox used to have smaller fonts than the Windows-version, but I was fine with that. Now with 2.0 it's gone to the point that I have to increase the font size before I can read it.

Here's a pic so you can see for yourself:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/ ... pshot4.png

chunderbunny · Post by **chunderbunny** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:31 pm

Personally I set the minimum font size at 11 and force all websites to use my fonts, problem solved!

Doogman · Post by **Doogman** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:04 pm

That's weird, because my font's aren't that small. Anyone else seeing this?

ilm · Post by **ilm** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:56 pm

chunderbunny wrote:Personally I set the minimum font size at 11 and force all websites to use my fonts, problem solved!

Well, I'm currently doing this in Firefox 1.5 (I'm going to wait till 2.0 becomes stable

), and that causes a lot of sites to become unreadable... then again, I increase the font size to about 16 though!

Dlareh · Post by **Dlareh** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:07 pm

chunderbunny wrote:Personally I set the minimum font size at 11 and force all websites to use my fonts, problem solved!

Not a solution as this destroys the look of most websites.

chunderbunny · Post by **chunderbunny** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:15 pm

Dlareh wrote:
chunderbunny wrote:Personally I set the minimum font size at 11 and force all websites to use my fonts, problem solved!
Not a solution as this destroys the look of most websites.

Funny, I started doing this years ago and I've never noticed a site that looks bad.

Dlareh · Post by **Dlareh** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:34 pm

I would not characterize having such a low awareness as "funny".

Q-collective · Post by **Q-collective** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:42 am

Dlareh wrote:
chunderbunny wrote:Personally I set the minimum font size at 11 and force all websites to use my fonts, problem solved!
Not a solution as this destroys the look of most websites.

Sounds like a very badly designed site.

grenouille · Post by **grenouille** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:01 pm

Dlareh wrote:
chunderbunny wrote:Personally I set the minimum font size at 11 and force all websites to use my fonts, problem solved!
Not a solution as this destroys the look of most websites.

I never had that problem.

lateralus__ · Post by **lateralus__** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:41 pm

Dlareh wrote:
chunderbunny wrote:Personally I set the minimum font size at 11 and force all websites to use my fonts, problem solved!
Not a solution as this destroys the look of most websites.

Has anybody a real solution to this problem ?

I have also 2 others problems with Firefox 2 :

the font size of the menus, the contextual menus, ... are too small.
I know I can use an utility like gtk-chtheme but it will then increase the size of all my gtk applications, which I don't want.
Has anybody a solution to this ?
I have some accents problems when clicking on a link in gmail :

The strange thing is that it only happen when I passed through gmail to go to the forum
Is it also a font issue ?

Thanks in advance

Kraymer · Post by **Kraymer** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:09 pm

I just installed FF2 and I like it.

Apparently page rendering is faster.
Fonts are "clearer" or better rendered or something (they are a bit smaller though but as long as I have my glasses, that's ok for me)
Writing this, I noticed the builtin spell checking feature. Nice too.
I'll have to see if improvements in memory usage are really there
I didn't suffer the ugly icons I read about in this thread since during startup my noia theme was updated hehe
Won't comment on new tab handling yet. So far, everything appears to be the same for me (except for the separate close icons)

Ah, for sake of completeness:

Sat Nov 4 15:53:39 2006 >>> www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0
merge time: 1 hour, 24 minutes and 3 seconds.

(athlon-xp 2600, 1G RAM) Had some other stuff running during emerge, including mplayer.. But less than half an hour, that's really impressive guys..

wuzzerd · Post by **wuzzerd** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:53 pm

Dlareh wrote:
chunderbunny wrote:Personally I set the minimum font size at 11 and force all websites to use my fonts, problem solved!
Not a solution as this destroys the look of most websites.

That's a web designer problem. Geeze my eyes are too old to read tiny print rendered in one pixel, just so some so called designer can show something flashy to the boss.

blue_american · Post by **blue_american** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:25 pm

I think is a problem with css layout, about:config > change layout.css.dpi to 0.

Another thing, is anyone having problems saving files to vfat partitions? Sometimes my files come empty... and is not a vfat thing with konqueror I don't have this problem.

lateralus__ · Post by **lateralus__** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:26 pm

blue_american wrote: I think is a problem with css layout, about:config > change layout.css.dpi to 0.

Thanks, that solved the 2 problems I mentioned earlier in this thread

Biert · Post by **Biert** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:52 pm

More info and possible solutions for the small fonts here: http://www.mozilla.org/unix/dpi.html

stupidkid · Post by **stupidkid** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:09 am

Hmm emerge -avuD world wants to downgrade firefox 2.0 to 1.5.0.7. I have firefox-2.0 in packages.keyword. Does anyone know why?

yabbadabbadont · Post by **yabbadabbadont** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:18 am

stupidkid wrote:Hmm emerge -avuD world wants to downgrade firefox 2.0 to 1.5.0.7. I have firefox-2.0 in packages.keyword. Does anyone know why?

What does "emerge -pv mozilla-firefox" show?

stupidkid · Post by **stupidkid** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:25 am

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$ emerge -pv mozilla-firefox

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0  USE="gnome ipv6 java mozbranding -debug -mozdevelop -moznopango% -restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint" LINGUAS="-ar -bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -hu -it -ja -ko -lt -mk -mn -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

However,

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$ emerge -pvuD world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ] sys-libs/timezone-data-2006o [2006n] USE="nls%*" 336 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-libs/glibc-2.4-r4 [2.4-r3] USE="nls nptl nptlonly -build -glibc-compat20 -glibc-omitfp -hardened (-multilib) -profile (-selinux)" 178 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-fs/device-mapper-1.02.10-r1 [1.02.10] USE="(-selinux)" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-misc/openssh-4.4_p1-r6 [4.4_p1-r5] USE="X ldap pam tcpd -X509 -chroot -hpn -kerberos -libedit (-selinux) -skey -smartcard -static" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] x11-libs/qt-4.1.4-r2 [4.1.4] USE="cups gif jpeg opengl png zlib -accessibility -debug -doc -examples -firebird -mng -mysql -nas -nis -odbc -postgres -sqlite -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-text/tetex-3.0_p1-r3 [2.0.2-r8] USE="X -Xaw3d% -doc -lesstif% -motif% -neXt% -tk" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.7 [2.0] USE="gnome ipv6 java -debug -mozdevelop -moznopango% -xinerama -xprint (-mozbranding%*) (-restrict-javascript%) (-xforms%)" LINGUAS="-ar -bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -ga -ga_IE -gu_IN -he% -hu -it -ja -ko -lt -mk -nb -nb_NO -nl -pa_IN% -pl -pt_BR -ro% -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -zh_CN -zh_TW (-fy%) (-fy_NL%) (-gu%) (-mn%) (-nn%) (-nn_NO%) (-pt%) (-pt_PT%) (-zh%)" 0 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.2-r1  76 kB
[ebuild     U ] gnome-base/gnome-volume-manager-1.5.15-r3 [1.5.15-r2] USE="crypt -debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.001  201 kB
[ebuild  N    ] virtual/perl-Scalar-List-Utils-1.18  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/IO-Compress-Base-2.001  87 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/IO-Compress-Zlib-2.001  128 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-perl/Compress-Zlib-2.001 [1.41] 60 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/hdparm-6.6 [6.3] 44 kB

Total size of downloads: 1,114 kB

yabbadabbadont · Post by **yabbadabbadont** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:28 am

Add the --tree option to your emerge command so that you can see which ebuild is trying to downgrade firefox (if any). You don't happen to have firefox in a portage overlay somewhere do you?

stupidkid · Post by **stupidkid** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:36 am

Good point,

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 $ emerge -ptvuD world

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/hdparm-6.6 [6.3] 44 kB
[nomerge      ] gnome-base/gnome-2.14.2  USE="cdr dvdr hal -accessibility"
[nomerge      ]  mail-client/evolution-2.6.2-r1  USE="crypt dbus gstreamer hal ipv6 ldap spell ssl -bogofilter -debug -doc -kerberos -krb4 -mono -nntp -pda -profile -widescreen"
[nomerge      ]   mail-filter/spamassassin-3.1.3  USE="berkdb ipv6 ldap ssl -doc -mysql -postgres -qmail -sqlite -tools"
[nomerge      ]    dev-perl/IO-Zlib-1.04
[ebuild     U ]     dev-perl/Compress-Zlib-2.001 [1.41] 60 kB
[ebuild  N    ]      dev-perl/IO-Compress-Zlib-2.001  128 kB
[ebuild  N    ]      dev-perl/IO-Compress-Base-2.001  87 kB
[ebuild  N    ]       virtual/perl-Scalar-List-Utils-1.18  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]      dev-perl/Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.001  201 kB
[ebuild     U ]  gnome-base/gnome-volume-manager-1.5.15-r3 [1.5.15-r2] USE="crypt -debug -doc" 0 kB
[nomerge      ]  gnome-extra/bug-buddy-2.14.0  USE="-debug"
[ebuild  NS   ]   app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.2-r1  76 kB
[nomerge      ]  www-client/epiphany-2.14.2.1-r1  USE="firefox python -debug -doc"
[ebuild     UD]   www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.7 [2.0] USE="gnome ipv6 java -debug -mozdevelop -moznopango% -xinerama -xprint (-mozbranding%*) (-restrict-javascript%) (-xforms%)" LINGUAS="-ar -bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -ga -ga_IE -gu_IN -he% -hu -it -ja -ko -lt -mk -nb -nb_NO -nl -pa_IN% -pl -pt_BR -ro% -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -zh_CN -zh_TW (-fy%) (-fy_NL%) (-gu%) (-mn%) (-nn%) (-nn_NO%) (-pt%) (-pt_PT%) (-zh%)" 0 kB
[nomerge      ] app-office/texmaker-1.40
[ebuild     U ]  app-text/tetex-3.0_p1-r3 [2.0.2-r8] USE="X -Xaw3d% -doc -lesstif% -motif% -neXt% -tk" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ]  x11-libs/qt-4.1.4-r2 [4.1.4] USE="cups gif jpeg opengl png zlib -accessibility -debug -doc -examples -firebird -mng -mysql -nas -nis -odbc -postgres -sqlite -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-misc/openssh-4.4_p1-r6 [4.4_p1-r5] USE="X ldap pam tcpd -X509 -chroot -hpn -kerberos -libedit (-selinux) -skey -smartcard -static" 0 kB
[nomerge      ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-4.24  USE="gnome jpeg new-login nls offensive opengl pam -insecure-savers -kerberos -krb4 -xinerama"
[nomerge      ]  gnome-base/gdm-2.14.9-r1  USE="ipv6 pam tcpd -accessibility -debug (-selinux) -xinerama"
[nomerge      ]   gnome-base/librsvg-2.14.4  USE="gnome zlib -debug -doc"
[nomerge      ]    gnome-extra/libgsf-1.14.0  USE="bzip2 gnome -debug -doc -static"
[nomerge      ]     gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.14.2-r1  USE="hal ipv6 samba ssl -avahi -debug -doc -gnutls"
[nomerge      ]      sys-apps/hal-0.5.7-r3  USE="crypt -acpi -debug -dmi -doc -pcmcia (-selinux)"
[nomerge      ]       sys-fs/cryptsetup-luks-1.0.3-r2  USE="nls -dynamic (-selinux)"
[ebuild     U ]        sys-fs/device-mapper-1.02.10-r1 [1.02.10] USE="(-selinux)" 0 kB
[nomerge      ] app-editors/emacs-21.4-r4  USE="X nls -Xaw3d -leim -lesstif -motif -nosendmail"
[nomerge      ]  mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2  USE="ipv6 ssl -mailwrapper -md5sum"
[ebuild     U ]   sys-libs/glibc-2.4-r4 [2.4-r3] USE="nls nptl nptlonly -build -glibc-compat20 -glibc-omitfp -hardened (-multilib) -profile (-selinux)" 178 kB
[ebuild     U ]    sys-libs/timezone-data-2006o [2006n] USE="nls%*" 336 kB

Total size of downloads: 1,114 kB

Hmm.....epiphany???

And I don't have it in another overlay.

PaulBredbury · Post by **PaulBredbury** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:40 am

stupidkid wrote:[nomerge ] www-client/epiphany-2.14.2.1-r1 USE="firefox python -debug -doc"
[ebuild UD] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.7 [2.0] USE="gnome ipv6 java -debug -mozdevelop -moznopango% -xinerama -xprint

The answer is in the ebuild: /usr/portage/www-client/epiphany/epiphany-2.14.2.1-r1.ebuild

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firefox? ( =www-client/mozilla-firefox-1* )

That's specifying firefox-1.

Firefox 2.0 officially out.

Cool