Civilization IV possible?

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AmosMutke · Post by **AmosMutke** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:19 am

Jengu wrote:If you can, install it on a windows partition and copy it over and then try running it.

OK.. I thought I'd give this a try since my brother bought the game. I used ssh to tar up his game directory and then copy it to my computer.

Though various errors, I was able to determine that I also needed to copy these files to my Civilization 4 directory

c:\windows\system32\MSVCP71.dll
c:\windows\system32\MSVCR71.dll
c:\windows\system32\D3DX9_26.DLL
c:\windows\system32\bootvid.dll
c:\windows\system32\hal.dll
c:\windows\system32\kdcom.dll
c:\windows\System Cache\i386\ntoskrnl.exe

and now I'm stuck on wine page faults.

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wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0xffdff020 at address 0x4094d0c5 (thread 000d), starting debugger...
WineDbg starting on pid 0xc
Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0xffdff020 in 32-bit code (0x4094d0c5).
In 32 bit mode.
Register dump:
 CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:0033 GS:0000
 EIP:4094d0c5 ESP:4092fd08 EBP:4092fd18 EFLAGS:00010212(   - 00      - RIA1)
 EAX:40960ce6 EBX:401ad2e8 ECX:40310ae0 EDX:00000001
 ESI:40960000 EDI:40960ce6
Stack dump:
0x4092fd08:  40960ce6 40960000 401ad2e8 40310ae0
0x4092fd18:  4092fd38 40184c75 40960000 00000001
0x4092fd28:  00000001 4092fd74 401ad2e8 401ad2e8
0x4092fd38:  4092fdac 40185c3d 40960ce6 40960000
0x4092fd48:  00000001 00000001 4017fb9e 40184c48
0x4092fd58:  401ad2e8 00000009 80010000 4092fe08
Backtrace:
=>1 0x4094d0c5 EntryPoint+0x9 in hal (0x4094d0c5)
  2 0x40184c75 call_dll_entry_point+0x15 in ntdll (0x40184c75)
  3 0x40185c3d call_dll_entry_point+0xfdd in ntdll (0x40185c3d)
  4 0x40185cd8 in ntdll (+0x15cd8) (0x40185cd8)
  5 0x40185d47 in ntdll (+0x15d47) (0x40185d47)
  6 0x40185d47 in ntdll (+0x15d47) (0x40185d47)
  7 0x40185d47 in ntdll (+0x15d47) (0x40185d47)
  8 0x40185d47 in ntdll (+0x15d47) (0x40185d47)
  9 0x40187b45 LdrInitializeThunk+0x1df in ntdll (0x40187b45)
  10 0x4047de0c in kernel32 (+0x3de0c) (0x4047de0c)
  11 0x4002fd3f wine_switch_to_stack+0x17 in libwine.so.1 (0x4002fd3f)
0x4094d0c5 EntryPoint+0x9 in hal: movl  %ds:0xffdff020,%eax
Modules:
Module  Address                 Debug info      Name (20 modules)
PE      0x00400000-00614100     Deferred        ntoskrnl
ELF     0x40000000-40018000     Deferred        ld-linux.so.2
ELF     0x4001a000-40023000     Deferred        libnss_compat.so.2
ELF     0x4002b000-40045000     Export          libwine.so.1
ELF     0x40046000-40152000     Deferred        libc.so.6
ELF     0x40152000-40156000     Deferred        libdl.so.2
ELF     0x40156000-401bc000     Export          ntdll<elf>
  \-PE  0x40170000-401bc000     \               ntdll
ELF     0x401bc000-402b2000     Deferred        libwine_unicode.so.1
ELF     0x402b2000-402d4000     Deferred        libm.so.6
ELF     0x402e7000-402fc000     Deferred        libnsl.so.1
ELF     0x402fc000-40306000     Deferred        libnss_nis.so.2
ELF     0x40306000-40310000     Deferred        libnss_files.so.2
ELF     0x40420000-40506000     Export          kernel32<elf>
  \-PE  0x40440000-40506000     \               kernel32
PE      0x40800000-40827f00     Deferred        secdrv.sys
PE      0x40930000-40950380     Export          hal
PE      0x40960000-40961b80     Deferred        kdcom
ELF     0x7bf00000-7bf07000     Deferred        <wine-loader>
PE      0x80010000-80013000     Deferred        bootvid
Threads:
process  tid      prio (all id:s are in hex)
0000000a 
        00000010    0
0000000c (D) C:\windows\system32\drivers\SECDRV.SYS
        0000000d    0 <==
0000000a 
        0000000b    0
00000008 
        00000009    0
WineDbg terminated on pid 0xc
wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0xffdff020 at address 0x4094d0c5 (thread 0012), starting debugger...
WineDbg starting on pid 0x11
Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0xffdff020 in 32-bit code (0x4094d0c5).
In 32 bit mode.
Register dump:
 CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:0033 GS:0000
 EIP:4094d0c5 ESP:4092fd08 EBP:4092fd18 EFLAGS:00010212(   - 00      - RIA1)
 EAX:40960ce6 EBX:401ad2e8 ECX:40310ae0 EDX:00000001
 ESI:40960000 EDI:40960ce6
Stack dump:
0x4092fd08:  40960ce6 40960000 401ad2e8 40310ae0
0x4092fd18:  4092fd38 40184c75 40960000 00000001
0x4092fd28:  00000001 4092fd74 401ad2e8 401ad2e8
0x4092fd38:  4092fdac 40185c3d 40960ce6 40960000
0x4092fd48:  00000001 00000001 4017fb9e 40184c48
0x4092fd58:  401ad2e8 00000009 80010000 4092fe08
Backtrace:
=>1 0x4094d0c5 EntryPoint+0x9 in hal (0x4094d0c5)
  2 0x40184c75 call_dll_entry_point+0x15 in ntdll (0x40184c75)
  3 0x40185c3d call_dll_entry_point+0xfdd in ntdll (0x40185c3d)
  4 0x40185cd8 in ntdll (+0x15cd8) (0x40185cd8)
  5 0x40185d47 in ntdll (+0x15d47) (0x40185d47)
  6 0x40185d47 in ntdll (+0x15d47) (0x40185d47)
  7 0x40185d47 in ntdll (+0x15d47) (0x40185d47)
  8 0x40185d47 in ntdll (+0x15d47) (0x40185d47)
  9 0x40187b45 LdrInitializeThunk+0x1df in ntdll (0x40187b45)
  10 0x4047de0c in kernel32 (+0x3de0c) (0x4047de0c)
  11 0x4002fd3f wine_switch_to_stack+0x17 in libwine.so.1 (0x4002fd3f)
0x4094d0c5 EntryPoint+0x9 in hal: movl  %ds:0xffdff020,%eax
Modules:
Module  Address                 Debug info      Name (20 modules)
PE      0x00400000-00614100     Deferred        ntoskrnl
ELF     0x40000000-40018000     Deferred        ld-linux.so.2
ELF     0x4001a000-40023000     Deferred        libnss_compat.so.2
ELF     0x4002b000-40045000     Export          libwine.so.1
ELF     0x40046000-40152000     Deferred        libc.so.6
ELF     0x40152000-40156000     Deferred        libdl.so.2
ELF     0x40156000-401bc000     Export          ntdll<elf>
  \-PE  0x40170000-401bc000     \               ntdll
ELF     0x401bc000-402b2000     Deferred        libwine_unicode.so.1
ELF     0x402b2000-402d4000     Deferred        libm.so.6
ELF     0x402e7000-402fc000     Deferred        libnsl.so.1
ELF     0x402fc000-40306000     Deferred        libnss_nis.so.2
ELF     0x40306000-40310000     Deferred        libnss_files.so.2
ELF     0x40420000-40506000     Export          kernel32<elf>
  \-PE  0x40440000-40506000     \               kernel32
PE      0x40800000-40827f00     Deferred        secdrv.sys
PE      0x40930000-40950380     Export          hal
PE      0x40960000-40961b80     Deferred        kdcom
ELF     0x7bf00000-7bf07000     Deferred        <wine-loader>
PE      0x80010000-80013000     Deferred        bootvid
Threads:
process  tid      prio (all id:s are in hex)
00000011 (D) C:\windows\system32\drivers\SECDRV.SYS
        00000012    0 <==
0000000a 
        00000010    0
        0000000b    0
00000008 
        00000009    0
WineDbg terminated on pid 0x11

does someone want to copy my procedure and see if your results are any different?

thanx

cracki · Post by **cracki** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:38 pm

The files
c:\windows\system32\bootvid.dll
c:\windows\system32\hal.dll
c:\windows\system32\kdcom.dll
c:\windows\System Cache\i386\ntoskrnl.exe
are all related to copy protection.
Apply the 1.09 patch and search for a nocd crack. Then delete the 4 files.

Obi-Lan · Post by **Obi-Lan** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:29 pm

Atleast im not able to install 1.09 patch.

Paran0id · Post by **Paran0id** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:38 am

I haven't been able to install the patch either (InstallShield issue), however when trying to get the demo of Civ4 running (no copy protection) the game refuses to start due to problems with MSXML. As far as I know there's been no implementation of MSXML in Wine or Cedega, and installing MSXML packages direcly from MS just replaces one problem with another. In other words, until someone's solved the XML problem, getting rid of the copy protection won't do much good, as far as I can see anyways...

AmosMutke · Post by **AmosMutke** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:06 pm

Paran0id wrote:...
As far as I know there's been no implementation of MSXML in Wine or Cedega, and installing MSXML packages direcly from MS just replaces one problem with another.
...

www.winehq.com wrote: August 30, 2005: Wine 20050830 Released

Wine-20050830 from the CVS tree. Noted changes include:

* A lot more theming support.
* Many improvements to the various crypto dlls.
* More LDAP support.
* Beginnings of an MSXML implementation.
* Better MSHTML support.
* Emulated version now set to Windows 2000 by default.
* Direct3D fixes and improvements.
* Lots of bug fixes.

There is "some" support there, it just hasn't had time to mature yet.

neuron · Post by **neuron** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:39 am

AmosMutke wrote:
Paran0id wrote:...
As far as I know there's been no implementation of MSXML in Wine or Cedega, and installing MSXML packages direcly from MS just replaces one problem with another.
...

www.winehq.com wrote: August 30, 2005: Wine 20050830 Released

Wine-20050830 from the CVS tree. Noted changes include:

* A lot more theming support.
* Many improvements to the various crypto dlls.
* More LDAP support.
* Beginnings of an MSXML implementation.
* Better MSHTML support.
* Emulated version now set to Windows 2000 by default.
* Direct3D fixes and improvements.
* Lots of bug fixes.
There is "some" support there, it just hasn't had time to mature yet.

yeah and that version is real old, 0.9.3 is the latest

AmosMutke · Post by **AmosMutke** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:02 am

neuron wrote:yeah and that version is real old, 0.9.3 is the latest

Well.. I wouldn't call 4 months (closer to 3.5 months to the release of 0.9.3) "real old"... but it's definately a start.

neuron · Post by **neuron** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:36 am

AmosMutke wrote:
neuron wrote:yeah and that version is real old, 0.9.3 is the latest
Well.. I wouldn't call 4 months (closer to 3.5 months to the release of 0.9.3) "real old"... but it's definately a start.

in wine development now it kinda is

, they've been pushing hard to get ready for 1.0, and a massive amount of patches has made it in

AnXa · Post by **AnXa** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:33 am

oggialli wrote:Civ3 ran very well for me.

Same here. I hope they will make native port of civ4 to linux but still it would be great to get civ4 working on cedega/wine

munchagepeople · Post by **munchagepeople** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:15 pm

If you have Cedega, the game already works - clicky

Some random crashes for me using this method, otherwise all works fine

oggialli · Post by **oggialli** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:52 pm

What about performance compared to Windows? Does it work on ATI? What about free dx9-wine?

RaZoR1394 · Post by **RaZoR1394** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:00 pm

I tried it with Cedega 5 after following the more comprehensive guide posted on the Transgaming forums. It starts fine and I'm able to orientate myself in the menus but I get a black screen when changing character (leader) or starting a new game. I guess It's an ATI problem as usual as most nVidia users following that guide managed to play the game though it may crash sometimes if you have graphics on higher than "low". It's also said that it runs even better than Civ3.

munchagepeople · Post by **munchagepeople** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:25 pm

What about performance compared to Windows? Does it work on ATI? What about free dx9-wine?

Performance seemed to be roughly equal to windows - I have had it slow down significantly during a game - probably just the amount of stuff I had showing at the time that did that...

ATI seems to be a problem at the moment - don't think anyone on the TG has it going currently

nVidia users following that guide managed to play the game though it may crash sometimes if you have graphics on higher than "low". It's also said that it runs even better than Civ3.

Very true - mine has crashed (eventually) each time i've played it - it has lasted over 2 hours with me though

Runs just as well as Civ3 on my machine (P4 3.0Ghz, 2560mb RAM, GeForce 6600GT (PCIe)

yogipsu · Post by **yogipsu** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:06 pm

A "me too" post - Civ4 works without a no-cd patch, so long as you're patched to v 1.52, on cedega 5.0.3. Everything works perfectly, with graphics settings on high, though I haven't tried a multiplayer game yet. I have had one crash so far, but not sure what caused it.

InsaneHamster · Post by **InsaneHamster** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:02 pm

i havnt tested this but i obtained it from the civ4linux forums ... ps bounty 30$

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Here's the complete updated howto
*Note Internet games still not working, but I'm on it

1. Install civ4 in Cedega
- Click Install button in Cedega
- Enter something like civ4 for Game Title
- Select setup.exe from the first CD for the Installer
- Use winXP for Windows version in Advanced tab->Options
- Skip DirectX setup

2. Install DirectX from the 1st CD
- Click Install button in Cedega
- Select civ4 Game Title
- Browse your first civ4 CD and select DirectX9/DXSETUP.EXE for the Installer

3. Install MSI in civ4's Cedega folder
- You can get it there: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=CEBBACD8-C094-4255-B702-DE3BB768148F
- Click Install button in Cedega
- Select civ4 Game Title
- Select InstMsiA.exe for the Installer

4. Instal MSXML in civ4's Cedega folder
- You can get it there: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=4A3AD088-A893-4F0B-A932-5E024E74519F&displaylang=en
- To make it easier, copy this file in ~/.cedega/civ4/c_drive/windows/system32
- Click install button in Cedega
- Select your civ4 folder
- Installer is ~/.cedega/civ4/c_drive/windows/system32/msiexec.exe
- In Advanced tab -> Options -> command line options: /i msxml3.msi

5. Copy oleaut32.dll, msvcr71.dll, msvcp71.dll to your civ4 executable folder
- copy them in: ~/.cedega/civ4/c_drive/Program Files/Firaxis Games/Sid Meier's Civilization 4
- You can get them there:
- http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?oleaut32
- http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvcr71
- http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvcp71

6. Delete the temporary civ4 setup folder
- Delete the folder {...} in: ~/.cedega/civ4/c_drive/Program Files/InstallShield Installation Information

7. Install patch v1.52 in Cedega
- You can get it there: http://www.2kgames.com/civ4/downloads.htm
- Click Install button in Cedega
- Select civ4 Game Title
- Select Civ4Patch1.52.exe for the Installer
- Use winXP for Windows version in Advanced tab->Options

- If you've done everything right, you don't need the no-dvd/cd patch, it works !!!! -

8. Run the game once, exit, then edit your CivilizationIV.INI file
- You will find it in ~/.cedega/civ4/c_drive/My Documents/My Games/Sid Meier's Civilization 4
- Set EnableVoice = 0 (fixes the 3 popups in main menu)
- Set GUIManagedTextures = 1 (fixes the not-showing-text issue)

Have fun !

1veedo · Post by **1veedo** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:14 pm

RaZoR1394 wrote:I tried it with Cedega 5 after following the more comprehensive guide posted on the Transgaming forums. It starts fine and I'm able to orientate myself in the menus but I get a black screen when changing character (leader) or starting a new game. I guess It's an ATI problem as usual as most nVidia users following that guide managed to play the game though it may crash sometimes if you have graphics on higher than "low". It's also said that it runs even better than Civ3.

This sounds like a problem I had with Windows. Some of the information at the civ forums suggest drivers but their conclusion was that it's not a hardware problem.

The fix is to basically reveal the whole map. In the python scripts you can set fishing/mining/starting advances to "reveal whole map." You still get fog of war, of course. The only downside is that you dont get to explore or anything and ...I hate the fix.

Go into assets/XML/technologies and open up Civ4TechInfos.xml. Replace all <bMapVisible>0</bMapVisible> with <bMapVisible>1</bMapVisible> and see if that doesn't work. There are other fixes but that was the only one that worked for me.

It's called the black map, look it up at the civ forums if that doesn't work for you.

(heh I want to play civ over here w/ my video card but mesa is masked -- along with all of its dependencies, "Modularized X, upstream release candidates.")

kerstman · Post by **kerstman** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:16 pm

Thanks InsaneHamster, that worked superbly for me (once I realised I set the default installation profile to WinXP and had to change it for steps 3 and 4

)

bbe · Post by **bbe** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:16 pm

Slightly off topic... but with the annouced Mac version of civ4 coming this spring/summer what does that mean for us linux users?

tr4nce · Post by **tr4nce** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:19 pm

Nothing.

1veedo · Post by **1veedo** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:21 pm

I'm so close to having civilization run on wine (not cedega).

http://1veedo.homelinux.com/misc/screen ... start1.png
http://1veedo.homelinux.com/misc/screen ... start2.png

But it errors, http://1veedo.homelinux.com/misc/civlog.bz2

http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=4036
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4325

I would take out my graphics card and put it in the windows computer but if I do that, america's army and most importantly, BZFlag wouldn't run -- because my built in video card doesn't support Linux

Heh, I'd use cedega but mesa (and all its dependencies) are masked.

Obi-Lan · Post by **Obi-Lan** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:43 am

Im having lots of problems to get this game run. I havent been able to install v1.52 patch in any way, not in the win98 mode, not in winxp. It always says me:

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Error Number: 0x80040706
Description: Object refrerence not set

Setup will now terminate

Only way I have managed to get this game runnin has been 1.09 patch and no-cd patch. But when I start a new game screen always goes black and game crashes. Im having AMD64 with x86_84 environment and nvidia geforce 6600GT with 8178 driver. And I got Cedega 5.0.3. I even tried removing and reinstalling Cedega but it didn't help anyway.

trinity · Post by **trinity** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:41 pm

Hi,

I think I'm gonna to buy this game but I'd like to know if my old GeForce2 video card is enough?

Also, my cpu is only 1.2Ghz....

Thanks

JMonkfish · Post by **JMonkfish** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:33 pm

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... PDKIKX0DER

Looks like you can squeak by.

trinity · Post by **trinity** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:36 pm

Hi again,

There is a demo of civ IV available. Anyone had succes to install it? I tried but I got errors during installation.

ChrisJumper · Post by **ChrisJumper** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:10 pm

@trinity

I think a Geforce2 is too low. A friend Play Civ4 with a Geforce 4 and 64MB but its slow and the units dont move.
My experience with the geforce 4, 124 MB and 512 Mb Ram you can play small maps without problems (i played with windows). But if you want to play Large Maps.. with 8-14 Players the game is nearly unplayable.. (if you can see the worldmap. At the starts there is no problem).

@all

I cant play civ IV on my gentoo :(
I use Cedega 5.0.3 an install it like the how to on the civ4linux.com

There is a new howto for a Install with cedega in win98 mode. With this you dont need the handcraft fot the the MS-XML think.
http://www.civ4linux.com/forum/viewtopi ... 1843df0ce6

But it dont work for me :( I cann install all.. and the Patches to. If i start "Civ IV" the booting-Screen of the game cames up. ... for 10 seconds and than nothing happens... i see that my cpu-monitoring gos on 70 percent an brake down... nothing happens. In the shell are the Error Messages "0003 Bad... Client ignore... some hexnumber..."

But i try to play it in root mode... because the install brake down by a user installation.

Good Luck for install!