Jackass! 2005.2 Support Group

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carpman · Post by **carpman** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:14 pm

Bob P wrote:you shouldn't run into any support problems because what you have is a portage configuration issue, not a toolkit issue.

according to your error, you've got gcc-config masked. post the contents of all of the files in your /etc/portage directory.

Thanks for reply Bob, you post sent me looking at said files and found package.mask which had

>sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.12-r2

now i can't remember editing this but i must have, will look back through php5 install notes and see if it was there.

cheers and keep up the good work

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:35 am

well, i'm glad that it was a straightforward problem.

BTW, Jackass! Registered Users are welcome to start beta testing Jackass! 2005.2. The files are on the Jackass! Development FTP server. You'll need your user-ID and password to log on.

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:58 am

2005.1 Deprecated.
2005.2 Released.
2006.0 Testing.

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:57 pm

2005.2 distribution files have already been picked up by 2 of the mirrors. the rest of the mirrors should have them within a few hours.

enjoy!

Anim0sity · Post by **Anim0sity** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:54 pm

Is there a problem with the pentium3 2005.2 tarball? I downloaded it off the following mirrors, and every time I md5sum them, they fail and says the checksum didnt match. I will try the other mirrors in hopes that one of them succeeds but its not looking very promising.

here are the mirrors ive tried:

ftp://jackass.ahrends.org/
ftp://jackass.mojope.com/
ftp://129.7.37.161/
ftp://johnlgalt.no-ip.org/

still trying the others, again i only have this problem with the 2005.2 pentium3 tarball

*edit* added 129.7.37.161 to the mirror list
*edit* added johnlgalt.no-ip.org to the list

at this point i believe ive tried all the mirrors and none of them pass the md5sum

*note* while that tarball fails to match the md5sum file, all the mirrors produce consistent results (i.e. when just getting the md5sum from the downloaded tarball i get the same number from each mirror)
running:

$md5sum jackass-2005.2-pentium3.tar.bz2

gives me a result of:

36adff998bd2d01769ef3cdaecabaa72

from every mirror

according to the jackass-2005.2-pentium3.tar.bz.md5, i should get:

32433b6c3983b4ec150191306b5aa302

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:37 pm

Anim0sity wrote:*note* while that tarball fails to match the md5sum file, all the mirrors produce consistent results (i.e. when just getting the md5sum from the downloaded tarball i get the same number from each mirror)
running:

$md5sum jackass-2005.2-pentium3.tar.bz2

gives me a result of:

36adff998bd2d01769ef3cdaecabaa72

that is the correct md5sum for the file. it is also matches the contents of the md5sum file on the level 1 mirror.

i have confirmed that the md5sum propagating on the public mirrors is not properly sync'd with the master mirror. this is an rsync problem that i have fixed.

this problem should disappear from all of the mirrors within 12 hours. in the interim, the md5sum listed in this message is correct.

thanks for pointing out the mismatch.

Anim0sity · Post by **Anim0sity** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:54 pm

cool, glad its not a problem as i got bored and started an install anyway

GNUtoo · Post by **GNUtoo** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:37 pm

http://www.tuxfamily.org/
freashmet
sourceforge
...
why about hosting some files on that kind of servers(i think you are searching some hosting)

and why not adding p2p for downloading the stage3 files

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:34 pm

i guess you haven't read the thread, as these topics have been answered over and over and over again.

travlr · Post by **travlr** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:03 am

Hello Bob,

You may remember our brief discussion a while ago, about my wanting to contribute bandwidth. I only just now saw your PM regarding the situ. If you feel that down the road I might be at all helpful (in my currently limited capacities), please feel free to let me know.

I was happy to see your reply. I thought that you blew me off because I was expecting the discussion to continue via email. This re-establishes for me, the high regard I've had for your professionalism. Thank you very much for your, and everyone's contributions!

Lastly, I want to mention that I understand now that maintaining the documentation for jackass is superfluous per se, but for a while it seemed, to my lack of understanding, that you were holding the doc hostage in lieu of donations. I see now that this was not the case! But, I have to say that even though having such documentation may enable the lazy to not endeavor to learn the makings and idiosyncrasies of gentoo/linux, I also feel that it provided a segway for the eager to begin to dig into the gentoo/linux structure. IOW, I feel that that upon arriving at gentoo last year with my desire to have a well built and customized os, the docs you guys provided were concise and therefore revealing/"permitting". Where as I feel that, though the gentoo handbook is ok, It certainly isn't all that it could be. Therefore, imo, I would respectfully like to see you consider providing at least the original doc for those that aren't yet familiar.

Imo, (very) well conceived/considered documentation is the only current inadequacy of most OpenSource sw. Because I have such huge respect for OpenSource, I am trying to learn as fast as I can, so that I may also one day, contribute in a big way; similar to your endeavors. Keep up the great work Bob (& company)!

The world is so much better off with communal efforts and assistance.

Thanks again guys,
travlr

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:57 am

Just a reminder -- if anyone has a support issue, please post here and don't send me Personal Messages. I don't respond to PMs, and I prefer to post all support related information here, where everyone can benefit from the answers. Thanks.

monkeyface · Post by **monkeyface** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:42 pm

Is it safe to add my USE-flags (contains nls and things like that, I think it's best to rebuild my whole system) before the last two complete system rebuilds after GCC-upgrading?
I've just used one and a half hour for recompiling gcc/glib/libstdc++ and not finish yet - I don't have very much time, not enough money to replace my slow AthlonXP 3200+ either...

monkeyface · Post by **monkeyface** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:44 pm

Oh yeah, is it really safe to use the O3 optimize flag by default?
I've heard by a lot of people that it is crashing a lot of packages, but maybe this is fixed in the latest GCC... ?

96140 · Post by **96140** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:16 pm

-O3 works just fine. Jackass! is built with it.

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:39 pm

monkeyface wrote:Is it safe to add my USE-flags (contains nls and things like that, I think it's best to rebuild my whole system) before the last two complete system rebuilds after GCC-upgrading?
I've just used one and a half hour for recompiling gcc/glib/libstdc++ and not finish yet - I don't have very much time, not enough money to replace my slow AthlonXP 3200+ either...

These points keeps popping up, and they're important, so this post gets the boldface treatment:

This is the Jackass! Support Group not the Stage 1/3 Support Thread . Although I am responsible for both of these projects, I think its important to try to keep the content of the threads limited to the topic of the thread, so I'd appreciate it if everyone would try to post their questions in the appropriate threads.

If you're downloading a Jackass! tarball, then you don't have to rebuild your system files, so the question about rebuilding doesn't really apply to Jackass! OTOH, if you're performing a Stage 1/3 install, we should really discuss this question in the Stage 1/3 Support Thread. Please post your question there.

By posting the right support requests in the right Support Threads, it helps to keep the threads manageable and easy for everyone to follow.

W3BMAST3R101 · Post by **W3BMAST3R101** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:09 am

Hey. I'm using Jackass 2005.2 and i was wondering how i could remove the intro for when i login to my acct via the command line.

thnx,

the w3b

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:23 pm

just so i have this straight -- you're using Jackass!, but you don't want to know about it?

enderandrew · Post by **enderandrew** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:28 pm

I'm not using Jackass!, but I'm assuming there is something in .bashrc that displays the motd, which is probably in /etc/motd

nxsty · Post by **nxsty** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:38 pm

W3BMAST3R101 wrote:Hey. I'm using Jackass 2005.2 and i was wondering how i could remove the intro for when i login to my acct via the command line.

thnx,

the w3b

The files containing the messages before and after login are /etc/issue and /etc/motd.

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:47 pm

enderandrew wrote:I'm not using Jackass!, but I'm assuming there is something in .bashrc that displays the motd, which is probably in /etc/motd

if you're not using Jackass!, i don't understand why you're asking for help in the Jackass! Support Thread.

@w3b, does the information that @nxsty provided answer your question?

enderandrew · Post by **enderandrew** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:03 pm

I'm not asking for help. I was answering the post directly above me and trying to be helpful. I read every thread to see if there is anything new for me to learn.

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:28 pm

oh, i thought you were asking about .bashrc. sorry, my mistake. just in case this point isn't clear -- in building jackass i didn't modify .bashrc. if the user wants to add/subtract something from the message of the day, all that they have to do is edit the /etc/motd file. gentoo's default behavior is to display the contents of the /etc/motd file if it exists. that's how they put the text messages on the live cds.

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:55 am

Announcements:

Rockhopper! 4.1 Now that there's a new GCC 4.1 beta ebuild dated 20051230, I'll be publishing a 20051231 edition of Rockhopper! to feature the latest toolkit later today. Follow-up in the Rockhopper! thread and watch the Jackass! mirrors if you're interested.

Jackass! 2006.0 with GCC 3.4.5 People interested in becoming official Jackass! beta testers are invited to contact me regarding beta testing of Jackass! 2006.0. The build is finished, and it features GCC 3.4.5. Testers should have some familiarity with Gentoo Stage 3 installs, and previous versions of Jackass!, and must be willing to perform frequent test installs. Follow-up by PM if interested.

no idea · Post by **no idea** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:49 pm

Hi Bob!

You've made a great job creating the Jackass! project

now, i have one question, don't be angry in case it is total n00b question.....

when i install gentoo with jackass, can i still use binary packages from the gentoo packages cd?

thanks

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:01 pm

jackass! is compatible with Gentoo, so don't worry -- you can install Gentoo binaries on a Jackass! system without any problems -- not that i would want to, though:

first, the Gentoo binary CDs are OLD. anything you'd find on them would be very outdated.

second, the files on the Gentoo binary CDs are built with the standard Gentoo toolkit which features GCC 3.3.x, no CFLAG optimizations, no NPTL, and is probably not built for your specific architecture. in other words, there is NOTHING about the Gentoo binaries that should interest you if you have a Jackass! toolkit -- in fact, you won't gain any of the benefits of running JAckass! if you don't compile your own binaries using the Jackass! toolkit!