Wishlist for Gentoo 2005.1

[jkriger]

- Reiser4

If I understand correctly, the Gentoo devs say they will not officially support Reiser4 until it becomes part of the mainstream vanilla 2.6 kernel source.

- Kernel 2.6

Of course.

- A good nice installer gui

I wouldn't min a quikc config+automation of the install so I don't have to come back every few hours to type another command, but with all due respect, I think a GUI installer doesn't seem to fit the bill for me. But that's a topic for an entirely different thread...

I also read that about reiser4. I would like to know when reiser4 will be officially supported in vanilla source. So, I think I will have wait a little longer.
I beleive that gentoo should trhough away al 2.4 stuff and focus on 2.6. Why mantain that stuff that is very old (two years at least!) and is no longer being develop?
As a first step quick config+automation installation process should be nice. But for expand the base of gentoo users, I beleive that a GUI is necesary. Also, in some poll stated that a GUI installer is one thing the is most needed.

[malone]

better wireless/PCMCIA support for laptops. specifically, for me, it would be great if the cd had the firmware for the prism54 module. the driver is kindof useless without it. (i think i read there are some licensing issues with this one, but other distros have it.)

i also have a prism2 usb adapter that didn't work either.
and a 3com card--3c589x i believe. it's an old model but still.

i could never get the network up for bootstrap so i had to install gentoo with another distro's cd. that just doesn't seem right.

--D

Somewhat OT:
I just did a stage 1 install on a pii-333MHz laptop using the prism module. The only catch is downloading the firmware and putting it on a floppy or flash card or something. Then boot up the live cd, copy the firmware to some dir and mount that dir ( using mount -o bind ... ) to where hotplug looks for the firmware.

[racoontje]

An update to the handbook so that udev, linux26-headers, nptl and SELinux. And gcc3.4. Maybe gcc4 if it's done then

[bruor]

personal wishes for the livecd.

madwifi driver modules working and installed, as well as an ndis wrapper and some popular working drivers for those who need it.

ill vote for the 2.6 kernel thing as well, as long as its 2.6.9. 2.6.8 has issues with my nforce2 MB.

i would like a graphical bootup as well, trying to read the installation guide through links is hell, maybe something functional and small like fluxbox.

reiserfs4 support would be great as well.

[rhill]

have the very last step in the install handbook be emerging a small one-use utility which connects to some server and provides you with a Gentoo user number, a text based automated installer script (since you've proven you can handle a gentoo install, you can enjoy the convenience while still remaining reassured of your uber-leetness), and a printable mail-in rebate for a 'I did a stage one Gentoo install and all I got was this stupid t-shirt' tshirt.

yes, i'm kidding.


..a little bit. (i had a LFS number that i thought was kinda cool. wish i would have remembered it. =P)

oh, and some mention in the handbook that you can use links in graphical mode would be nice. i spent 2 weeks in text mode before i thought to try links --help.

[Mindstab]

inotify patch anyone? if it isn't in the 2.6 kernel by then that is

[gcasillo]

Just please don't make graphical boot/install including framebuffer the default. Please. I just want to get a system running without the glitz.

[nsahoo]

An update to the handbook so that udev, linux26-headers, nptl and SELinux. And gcc3.4. Maybe gcc4 if it's done then

A BIG vote for that.

[Ard Righ]

My vote is for the Hotplugging to actually work for a change.

Get someone to ensure they include all of the USB and firewire IEEE 1394 (firewire) modules are on the LiveCD.

Make sure someone gets a chance to test the hardware detection on the LiveCD before they get released. For the last 6 months I have not been able to install Gentoo because it refuses outright to detect my SATA HDDs on a well known Intel chipset.

[momesana]

Could you please give me an adress where to look for the development state of the gui installer?

[GurliGebis]

Not that I like the idea of a GUI installer, but it might be a good idea anyway
Does anyone know if there will be an graphical installer like Mandrake has? (Not that I'll use it, I like the CLI installer, a friend just asked me)

[ciaranm]

- Reiser4

If I understand correctly, the Gentoo devs say they will not officially support Reiser4 until it becomes part of the mainstream vanilla 2.6 kernel source.

Not just that. It'll also have to actually work...

[busfahrer]

I'd like to have a tiny detail:

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emerge --foo bar

which would do the same as

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emerge --fetchonly bar && emerge bar

[GurliGebis]

- Reiser4

If I understand correctly, the Gentoo devs say they will not officially support Reiser4 until it becomes part of the mainstream vanilla 2.6 kernel source.

Not just that. It'll also have to actually work...

It does work for somebody, I'm using it on a few computers and it is stable here (for now at least).
But the only way to make it stable is to test and report bugs.

[ciaranm]

- Reiser4

If I understand correctly, the Gentoo devs say they will not officially support Reiser4 until it becomes part of the mainstream vanilla 2.6 kernel source.

Not just that. It'll also have to actually work...

It does work for somebody, I'm using it on a few computers and it is stable here (for now at least).
But the only way to make it stable is to test and report bugs.

No, the only way to make it stable is to take Hans Reiser outside and beat him with a large stick repeatedly until he finally admits that he needs to get it fixed.

[GurliGebis]

No, the only way to make it stable is to take Hans Reiser outside and beat him with a large stick repeatedly until he finally admits that he needs to get it fixed.

Hehe, that might work, but resorting to violence wont solve anything.
By the way, whats wrong with it, is seems to run fine?

[Lovechild]

No, the only way to make it stable is to take Hans Reiser outside and beat him with a large stick repeatedly until he finally admits that he needs to get it fixed.

Hehe, that might work, but resorting to violence wont solve anything.
By the way, whats wrong with it, is seems to run fine?

Hans seems to be using a lot of time right now deligating work on lkml amongst the Namesys guys, I think we will see Reiser4 is a more suitable form soon.. but I wouldn't trust it with my data for some time yet, to many bad memories of reiserfs3.

[Um_Help]

someone probably already posted this but i really think this is annoying.

if you emerge -s package_name and its masked it should print out the keywords it needs. like ~x86 ~amd64 ect... because i find myself having to add ~amd64 to alot of masked packages and it would be really nice to see if it has ~amd64 in it so i know right away if need to add it or not.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN!!!! SO ANNOYING!!! I WOULD LOVE THIS!!!

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chris@Chris ~/.fluxbox $ emerge -s gentoo-sources
Searching...
[ Results for search key : gentoo-sources ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]
*  sys-kernel/gentoo-sources [ Masked ] 
      KEYWORDS="~x86 -ppc"
      Latest version available: 2.4.28-r1
      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
      Size of downloaded files: 31,376 kB
      Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
      Description: Full sources including the Gentoo patchset for the 2.4 kernel tree
      License:     GPL-2


chris@Chris ~/.fluxbox $

somethign like that would be great
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[John5788]

I'd like to have a tiny detail:

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emerge --foo bar

which would do the same as

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emerge --fetchonly bar && emerge bar

i dont understand.. do you want to portage to download and compile at the same time?

[codergeek42]

I'd like to have a tiny detail:

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emerge --foo bar

which would do the same as

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emerge --fetchonly bar && emerge bar

i dont understand.. do you want to portage to download and compile at the same time?

Can't it already do that because of the lock files introduced in the recent Portage versions? Just do `emerge --fetchonly package` in one terminal, and `emerge package` in the other.

[ciaranm]

if you emerge -s package_name and its masked it should print out the keywords it needs. like ~x86 ~amd64 ect... because i find myself having to add ~amd64 to alot of masked packages and it would be really nice to see if it has ~amd64 in it so i know right away if need to add it or not.

Just use the * ~* keywords.

[etnoy]

I'd like to have a tiny detail:

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emerge --foo bar

which would do the same as

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emerge --fetchonly bar && emerge bar

i dont understand.. do you want to portage to download and compile at the same time?

Can't it already do that because of the lock files introduced in the recent Portage versions? Just do `emerge --fetchonly package` in one terminal, and `emerge package` in the other.

Or

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emerge -f foo & emerge foo

But that will make it very ugly

[Deranger]

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emerge -f foo & emerge foo

Eh, what's the point of this? Let's say, you want to emerge gentoolkit:

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emerge gentoolkit
emerge -f gentoolkit && emerge gentoolkit

Those does exactly the same job. Package cannot be built before you have downloaded sources, or is it possible?

[lefou]

Hmm.... I could make a Python script for a stage3 installation. I figure that anyone who does not do a stage3 install should know what they are doing. Does anyone want me to do that?

YES. It' is not a question of nOOb or not nOOb. But it would save a lot of time when installing a gentoo system on more than one computer, especially when you do this for all of your friends, your family a.o. You have to do always the same, have to look at the doc, too, to not overlook something, start with stage3, waiting, etc.

YES, a stage3 automation script would be great.

[John5788]

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emerge -f foo & emerge foo

Eh, what's the point of this? Let's say, you want to emerge gentoolkit:

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emerge gentoolkit
emerge -f gentoolkit && emerge gentoolkit

Those does exactly the same job. Package cannot be built before you have downloaded sources, or is it possible?

the only way i know of downloading and compiling at the same time is like: `emerge -fuD world` in 1 terminal and `emerge -uDv world` in another. then itll download while ur compiling packages