Gentoo was hated by many people????

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Titeuf · Post by **Titeuf** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:12 pm

It looks like devs for other programs also hates gentoo,
I've read this today when I emerged gaim:

If you experience problems with gaim, file them as bugs with
Gentoo's bugzilla, http://bugs.gentoo.org.  DO NOT report them
as bugs with gaim's sourceforge tracker, and by all means DO NOT
seek help in #gaim.

But at least we are warned for gaim.

basse1989 · Post by **basse1989** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:16 pm

Maybe we need a graphical installer and a nice binary server for portage. So that the guy who don't want to compile can use portage and gentoo too

hinken · Post by **hinken** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:20 pm

Fuck this.

I see this as a rascist statement from yosh.
This is no better than a "I hate all blacks coz they can dance" - statement.
Judging a person after the distro he is using makes me sick....

Parn did nothing to deserve this treatment, NOTHING.

What if all of us take this tone to gentoo newbies out there!
Fuck you, you dont know how to make you own fstab - I ban you for a week!

Its no different to:
Fuck you, you dont have a faster distro than I have - I ban you for a week!

WTF, c-mon people - yosh is scum!

spb · Post by **spb** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:19 pm

hinken wrote:Parn did nothing to deserve this treatment, NOTHING.

Maybe he didn't deserve quite what he got, but he was being pretty provocative.

Voltago · Post by **Voltago** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:19 pm

basse1989 wrote:Maybe we need a graphical installer and a nice binary server for portage. So that the guy who don't want to compile can use portage and gentoo too

Maybe this guy should use Debian then.

badMojo · Post by **badMojo** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:14 am

I just got glined from gnome's irc telling good old "yosh" he needs to get some help.

Good thing irc.gnome.org is just about useless!

richk449 · Post by **richk449** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:26 am

badMojo wrote:I just got glined from gnome's irc telling good old "yosh" he needs to get some help.

Good thing irc.gnome.org is just about useless!

Great plan. How about we sent out waves of thirteen-year-olds* (maturity wise) to harass anybody who says anything bad about gentoo or a gentoo user. That will make the rest of the internet love Gentoo.

Seriously. Yosh made it very clear in the original IRC chat that he is not interesting hearing about how wonderful Gentoo is. Leave him alone.

*I hereby preemtively apologize for accusing you of acting like a thirteen-year-old. Not that I think I am wrong, but I am apolgizing for not taking the time to think of a more nuanced way to say the same thing. Besides, the American public just decided that we don't do nuance, so who am I to disagree?

hinken · Post by **hinken** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:38 am

spb wrote:Maybe he didn't deserve quite what he got, but he was being pretty provocative.

I dont see it as being provocative. He just didnt bow his head for the ops.

short version for the lazy :

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A-holes: gentoo sucks.
Victim: no I think its fast.
A-holes: Debian rox.
Victim: I get better speed in gentoo than Debian.
A-holes: You must die for spoken the forbidden words.

badMojo · Post by **badMojo** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:38 am

I didn't say anything about Gentoo.

I told the guy he needs to get help, he has a very bad attitude. Honestly, I'm all for harassing the hell out of the guy... he's a dick.

On a side note: After evaluating Gentoo's performance vs. other distros, I have never found a significant performance gain. I use gentoo because I like the ports-style software management and the configure/tweak-ability.

Hypnos · Post by **Hypnos** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:53 am

badMojo wrote:On a side note: After evaluating Gentoo's performance vs. other distros, I have never found a significant performance gain. I use gentoo because I like the ports-style software management and the configure/tweak-ability.

I use regression tested CFLAGS (cf. my big acovea thread), so my Gentoo installation is rock-stable.

badMojo · Post by **badMojo** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:14 am

I guess I should have noted: I have never found Gentoo to be inherently less stable because of any compiler flags.

Hypnos · Post by **Hypnos** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:15 am

badMojo wrote:I guess I should have noted: I have never found Gentoo to be inherently less stable because of any compiler flags.

I have!

Arker · Post by **Arker** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 3:55 pm

badMojo wrote:I just got glined from gnome's irc telling good old "yosh" he needs to get some help.

Good thing irc.gnome.org is just about useless!

Nice to see you so positively contributing to the cause. Nice job, I'm sure it helped.

~djc

badMojo · Post by **badMojo** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:19 pm

I haven't contributed to any cause online, other than harassing dick heads like yosh.

It's a good thing the Gimp still sucks for most purposes, or that guy might actually be important.

Voltago · Post by **Voltago** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:07 pm

badMojo wrote:I haven't contributed to any cause online, other than harassing dick heads like yosh.

Well done. That's the spirit. If there were more people like you, the world would be... would be... oh, nevermind...

fffortun3 · Post by **fffortun3** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:11 pm

Pft! Such behavior is just plain disgusting. Bleh!

Decibels · Post by **Decibels** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:24 pm

Some Gentoo users may give us a bad name by preaching, but Yosh an Ass!
I used Debian for a long time and switched to Gentoo when it started out, haven't gone back to Debian yet. Have had experience with Debian Devs and lot of them are elitiest pricks.

I haven't ran into anyone calling me a stupid gentoo user yet, but I also use conservative flags pretty much. And it is assured that Gentoo is going to expose bugs in their code more easily than lot of other distro's.

Kind a funny how the internet lets some people act like scum, whereas if you met them in person they would be totally different. I would like to meet Yosh in person. Ya, I would really like to meet him in person.

badMojo · Post by **badMojo** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:27 pm

Well done. That's the spirit. If there were more people like you, the world would be... would be... oh, nevermind...

There would definately be less of you, that's for sure!

Anyway...

Yosh's real name is Manish Singh.

He is a lead maintainer for the GIMP.

I picture this when I think of him:

Decibels · Post by **Decibels** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:40 pm

Ok, maybe I don't want to meet him in person. I think he might eat my foot or even my whole leg.

Maybe this is him: Yosh Link Looks like Chong. Maybe he would be nice for a bag of Dorrito's.

nightm4re · Post by **nightm4re** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:57 pm

Decibels wrote: I haven't ran into anyone calling me a stupid gentoo user yet, but I also use conservative flags pretty much.

yeah, cuz your CFLAGS are just posted across your virtual shirt or something everywhere you go

Yosh's real name is Manish Singh.

He is a lead maintainer for the GIMP.

I picture this when I think of him:

[img:757db27e6e]http://www.indiana-jones.de/Filmogra/Purib.jpg[/img:757db27e6e]

nice. way to be rediculusly rude (and rascist i might add) by just looking at his name. REGARDLESS of the fact that Yosh's commentary/actions were very harsh, your actions are doing nothing to improve the image of Gentoo users. You can't fight flame with flame and expect anything good to happen. Now, when a user like myself has a problem or wants to deal with people outside of the Gentoo community, my voice won't even be heard because of people like you.

Thanks.

Decibels · Post by **Decibels** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:06 pm

nightmare wrote:
Decibels wrote: I haven't ran into anyone calling me a stupid gentoo user yet, but I also use conservative flags pretty much.
yeah, cuz your CFLAGS are just posted across your virtual shirt or something everywhere you go

Explain please.

It might be cause I don't preach the virtues of gentoo all over either. I like it and also like debian,.... but like gentoo best. Anyway, looks like Yosh is kindof harsh to more than just gentoo users: Harsh Yosh

nightm4re · Post by **nightm4re** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:29 pm

Decibels wrote:
Explain please.

just kidding around

the way you said it was kinda funny.. like all gentoo users immediatly announce they are gentoo users and spit their compile flags (FOR MAX PARFRAMANCE) at everyone they meet, thats all.

Anyway, looks like Yosh is kindof harsh to more than just gentoo users: Harsh Yosh

I read that entire thing very carefully. Not once does Yosh come over the top (as he did in the event that started this thread.) Not only that, but the guy who started the fight in that thread was being a total ass, and I completely agree with all the people defending gimp in this situation.

badMojo · Post by **badMojo** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:10 pm

I think it's clear this Manish guy is a dick to everyone OR just comes
off that way when he types. He's also goofier than I previously thought.

It's funny how certain people seem to turn everything into a racial issue. I hate you break this to "You People," but the world will never be politically correct. You can call me a racist honkey hick. I won't complain... I have thicker skin (oh god please, don't turn that into a racial slur).

I love Holier than thou europeans.

Nightmare, I also love your desktop. What WM/Theme are you using? Also, what about your GTK2 theme?

Pigeon · Post by **Pigeon** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:16 pm

Who fucking cares?

You got flamed on the internet- in an IRC channel. Why the hell does this deserve two pages?

Everyone in this thread is stupid, except for me, because I'm not stupid.

vificunero · Post by **vificunero** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:18 pm

Titeuf wrote:It looks like devs for other programs also hates gentoo,
I've read this today when I emerged gaim:
Code: Select all
If you experience problems with gaim, file them as bugs with
Gentoo's bugzilla, http://bugs.gentoo.org.  DO NOT report them
as bugs with gaim's sourceforge tracker, and by all means DO NOT
seek help in #gaim.
But at least we are warned for gaim.

Yes, I've read some months ago. Does anyone know other well known linux software developers that don't like us so much?