Mozilla faster than firefox

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newbie_100 · Post by **newbie_100** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:06 pm

am i the only one using Galeon around here?

i dont really know if it's faster in any way but i have an AMD Athlon XP 2500+ and a 1.5megs adsl connection so the speed is kinda the same (i think..haven't tested it), so i'm using Galeon for the features (smart bookmarks, open in tabs that was mentiond here and the most importent thing - all the key shortcuts work when i'm with the hebrew keyboard layout...) and i really like it... Galeon is "the one" browser for me

RaaR · Post by **RaaR** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:27 pm

Pwnz3r wrote:
Mirrorball wrote:Mozilla 1.7 compiled from source is noticeably faster than Firefox 0.9 binary.
Since when was that a fair battle?

Since firefox-bin 0.9 loads faster than firefox 0.9 (from source).

And yes, I know that this makes it sound like setting your own CFLAGS is a waste of time.

nrl · Post by **nrl** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:39 pm

RaaR wrote: Since firefox-bin 0.9 loads faster than firefox 0.9 (from source).
And yes, I know that this makes it sound like setting your own CFLAGS is a waste of time.

If you choose good CFLAGS it should be at least as fast as the official binary.

RaaR · Post by **RaaR** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:57 pm

nrl wrote:
RaaR wrote: Since firefox-bin 0.9 loads faster than firefox 0.9 (from source).
And yes, I know that this makes it sound like setting your own CFLAGS is a waste of time.
If you choose good CFLAGS it should be at least as fast as the official binary.

But the people at Mozilla Foundation have already chosen what they believe are the best CFLAGS in their binary and they must have had plenty of time selecting the best possible optimization for their product. The only CFLAGS they had to avoid were Athlon or Pentium specific ones, they still use i686 with what must be the best possible mix of other CFLAGS.

That may explain why their binary seems to be faster (at least when starting) then those I've seen compiled from source (and that includes -O2/-O3, -march=athlon-xp, and other usual suspects).

Professor Frink · Post by **Professor Frink** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:38 pm

I dont think they use i686, I'm running firefox on a K6-2 which is i586.

MaxDamage · Post by **MaxDamage** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:45 pm

tabanus wrote:I've been thinking of going back to Windows just because of this...until I tried Knoqueror. It's as smooth as Internet Explorer in Windows 98. I have run into trouble with compatability on some sites, but it's an altogether nicer browsing experience.

My Gentoo box got the power supply fried and now I'm forced to use Win98 and IE for some days in a Duron 1300 and trust me... it isn't so fast

RaaR wrote:That may explain why their binary seems to be faster (at least when starting) then those I've seen compiled from source (and that includes -O2/-O3, -march=athlon-xp, and other usual suspects).

Maybe prelinked is the word?

placeholder · Post by **placeholder** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:48 pm

Since when was IE smooth? IE was frickin' terrible when I used it. It was laggy and crappy, although it loaded a bit faster seeing that most of the components were loaded at Windows startup. It royally sucked though and I really don't see too much of a difference between the loading of Firefox and it but the browsing in Firefox is definitely tons faster.

I have a friend that uses Win98 (plans on installing Gentoo) and he loves Firefox and thinks that IE is total crap.

tamarian · Post by **tamarian** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:14 pm

nizar wrote:What i mean in "Open in Tabs" is that in firefox when you have a directory in your bookmarks you have the option to open all of the links in that directory in one click,
"Open in Tabs" .

You can install this feature from the Mozilla extensions manager.

nizar · Post by **nizar** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:49 am

tamarian wrote:
nizar wrote:What i mean in "Open in Tabs" is that in firefox when you have a directory in your bookmarks you have the option to open all of the links in that directory in one click,
"Open in Tabs" .
You can install this feature from the Mozilla extensions manager.

I don't find it, Could you tell the name of the extension?

thanks.

newbie_100 · Post by **newbie_100** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:58 am

nizar wrote: I don't find it, Could you tell the name of the extension?

thanks.

look here

and you can also try out galeon...it can save all open tabs as a folder, and open a folder in tabs...

tamarian · Post by **tamarian** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 12:29 pm

nizar wrote:Could you tell the name of the extension?

I recall seeing it here: http://update.mozilla.org/extensions/ but I couldn't find it anymore...

nizar · Post by **nizar** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 1:13 pm

newbie_100 wrote:
nizar wrote: I don't find it, Could you tell the name of the extension?

thanks.
look here

and you can also try out galeon...it can save all open tabs as a folder, and open a folder in tabs...

I'm sorry, but Where?

nsahoo · Post by **nsahoo** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 2:46 pm

You wanna look at http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/ for all ur extensions for mozilla.

Tazok · Post by **Tazok** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 4:57 pm

You are right.

Just did an USE="moznocompose moznoirc moznomail" emerge mozilla and it is really faster than firefox, especially in load time, which was the main reason why I switched to firefox.
But how can this be?
Is it just because of the "moznocompose moznoirc moznomail" USE-Flags?
And since when are these compile-options available?

placeholder · Post by **placeholder** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 5:02 pm

I don't mind waiting 2-3 seconds for Firefox to load the first time. Honestly kids, it really doesn't matter to me.

nizar · Post by **nizar** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 5:57 pm

Tazok wrote:You are right.
Just did an USE="moznocompose moznoirc moznomail" emerge mozilla and it is really faster than firefox, especially in load time, which was the main reason why I switched to firefox.
But how can this be?
Is it just because of the "moznocompose moznoirc moznomail" USE-Flags?
And since when are these compile-options available?

I have mozilla compiled with all of its features and it's still faster!

dice · Post by **dice** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:30 pm

There's no real difference in page load time or general feeling of snappyness between Mozilla 1.7 and Firefox 0.9 on my system. I don't know about application load time, I only load the browser when I reboot and that's usually about once every couple weeks for a new kernel

placeholder · Post by **placeholder** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:36 pm

dice wrote:There's no real difference in page load time or general feeling of snappyness between Mozilla 1.7 and Firefox 0.9 on my system.

Same here. The only thing that Mozilla did time-wize was take some time to compile. That's about it. lol

tecknojunky · Post by **tecknojunky** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:19 pm

I had moz-1.6 and coping with it being so slow (like near 45 seconds to start from 0), so much that I always left an instance opened.

It then occured I have Epiphany and it loads about 2x faster than Moz, but Epiphany lacks a lot of good extensions, my 3 favorites essential ones being the GoogleBar, AdBlock and FlashBlock. I tried to do without them but it was simply too unbareable.

I knew that Firefox was using gtk, so I tought it must speed up things a bit in Gnome. I intended to wait until 1.0, but what the heck. Man, what was I waiting for? It's just as fast as Epiphany, with all my favorites extensions in bonus (apart MultiZilla).

So, here, Firefox (0.9.1) beats Mozilla-1.6 hands down. My question is... why

. My Moz only has the browser and the composer. Maybe it's the extensions in it that clashes, I have no clue.

Bottom line: FIrefox is hot, Moz is not.

charlieg · Post by **charlieg** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:36 pm

Tazok wrote:And since when are these compile-options available?

Since time began. They've been there for... years!

allan_q · Post by **allan_q** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:08 pm

nizar wrote:What i mean in "Open in Tabs" is that in firefox when you have a directory in your bookmarks you have the option to open all of the links in that directory in one click,
"Open in Tabs" .

I don't know if this helps you, nizar.

Use tabs and open different sites.
Right click a tab
Select "Bookmark this Group of Tabs" and give it a name.
From now on, clicking on that name will automatically set up the tabs and load the sites.

Later, you can use Manage Bookmarks to add or remove the tabs that open by drag and drop. Handy for checking out today's comics.

nsahoo · Post by **nsahoo** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:48 pm

tecknojunky wrote: So, here, Firefox (0.9.1) beats Mozilla-1.6 hands down. My question is... why .

firefox 0.9 is based on the (substantial) improvements that went into mozilla seamonkey-1.7. So, it's not fair to compare firefox 0.9.1 with mozilla-1.6.

blaksaga · Post by **blaksaga** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:20 am

You can tweak your about:config in several ways to make firefox faster.

gnuageux · Post by **gnuageux** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:41 pm

Hmm on my box firefox def. out runs Mozilla. Course Opera runs circles around either any day but.....

reisio · Post by **reisio** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:48 pm

http://texturizer.net/firefox/tips.html#oth_pipelining