Mozilla faster than firefox

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nizar · Post by **nizar** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:23 pm

Hi,

I have installed gentoo a few months ago, Mozilla was installed with gnome, I haven't touched it because i use firefox but now, while i'm looking what gnome has in the internet menu, i saw mozilla, launched it and it's pretty much faster(1.5 at least) than firefox(0.8 and 0.9)!!!
It's mozilla 1.6

geniux · Post by **geniux** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:43 pm

My Mozilla 1.6 is also faster than Firefox.
Odd, I always thought that firefox was the fastest browser in the Mozilla family.

Now I'm going to unmerge Firefox and use M 1.6 as my default browser

placeholder · Post by **placeholder** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:55 pm

I would do that too but Mozilla also has email and other stuff thrown in and all I really want in a browser is a browser. I use Thunderbird for my mail, and I like it much better that way.

nrl · Post by **nrl** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:00 am

Pwnz3r wrote:I would do that too but Mozilla also has email and other stuff thrown in and all I really want in a browser is a browser. I use Thunderbird for my mail, and I like it much better that way.

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USE="moznoirc moznomail moznocompose" emerge -av mozilla

You now have the Mozilla browser and only the browser.

placeholder · Post by **placeholder** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:07 am

nrl wrote:
Pwnz3r wrote:I would do that too but Mozilla also has email and other stuff thrown in and all I really want in a browser is a browser. I use Thunderbird for my mail, and I like it much better that way.
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USE="moznoirc moznomail moznocompose" emerge -av mozilla
You now have the Mozilla browser and only the browser.

I now am still sticking with Firefox.

nizar · Post by **nizar** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:07 am

nrl wrote:
Pwnz3r wrote:I would do that too but Mozilla also has email and other stuff thrown in and all I really want in a browser is a browser. I use Thunderbird for my mail, and I like it much better that way.
Code: Select all
USE="moznoirc moznomail moznocompose" emerge -av mozilla
You now have the Mozilla browser and only the browser.

cheers

nizar · Post by **nizar** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:17 am

More on mozilla:

Now after about 10 hours, mozilla still running with 16 taps and seems that it uses less memory than firefox!
It still fast, i like it.

One thing missing, is "Open in Taps"

placeholder · Post by **placeholder** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:17 am

I like to call them tabs... but whatever floats your boat. Have you tried clicking on links with the middle mouse button? That opens things in tabs in Firefox and Epiphany. However, I haven't used Mozilla for a while so it might or might not work in Mozilla.

nizar · Post by **nizar** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:16 am

Pwnz3r wrote:I like to call them tabs... but whatever floats your boat. Have you tried clicking on links with the middle mouse button? That opens things in tabs in Firefox and Epiphany. However, I haven't used Mozilla for a while so it might or might not work in Mozilla.

What i mean in "Open in Tabs" is that in firefox when you have a directory in your bookmarks you have the option to open all of the links in that directory in one click,
"Open in Tabs" .

placeholder · Post by **placeholder** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:46 am

That sucks. I've never used that feature myself though. I have a hard enough problem keeping track of what I'm doing on two sites, with my catlike memory. lol Perhaps you should switch back or add some code.

nsahoo · Post by **nsahoo** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 2:25 pm

another one here who switched to mozilla from firefox after he found out that all the firefox extensions are actually available for mozill seamonkey too.

Serum · Post by **Serum** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 12:55 pm

Here I am again with what is faster then what. *cough*
Anyway, has anyone tried out mozilla 1.7? I'm guessing it's slower then 1.6 as no one has mentioned it. Atleast it's faster then firefox 0.9.

Serum · Post by **Serum** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:25 pm

I haven't found any other information about Mozilla 1.6 being faster then FireFox 0.8 or 0.9.
If anyone is in the mood, you can test your browser speed at this site.

spb · Post by **spb** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:31 pm

Serum wrote:I haven't found any other information about Mozilla 1.6 being faster then FireFox 0.8 or 0.9.
If anyone is in the mood, you can test your browser speed at this site.

Interesting... I timed Mozilla 1.7 and Firefox 0.9 on slashdot, gentoo.org, and forums.gentoo.org, and firefox won every time.

Serum · Post by **Serum** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:35 pm

Interesting findings indeed. Anyone else have the same results?

placeholder · Post by **placeholder** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 10:18 pm

I tired Mozilla earlier, and it takes more time but seems to wait and load it all at once. I think in reality it is actually fooling your mind. However, it didn't fool mine because I unmerged it and am back in action with Firefox.

F16PilotJumper · Post by **F16PilotJumper** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 10:33 pm

I think some people are talking about loading speed and others about browsing speed...

nizar · Post by **nizar** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 11:17 pm

Pwnz3r wrote:I tired Mozilla earlier, and it takes more time but seems to wait and load it all at once. I think in reality it is actually fooling your mind. However, it didn't fool mine because I unmerged it and am back in action with Firefox.

For me, 90% mozilla is faster than firefox

nizar · Post by **nizar** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 11:22 pm

F16PilotJumper wrote:I think some people are talking about loading speed and others about browsing speed...

I'm talking about browsing, It's so noticeable ! It's not that firefox is slow but mozilla is much faster here.

"Competitors": mozilla 1.6(portage,stable) and firefox-0.9-i686-linux-gtk2+xft

Mirrorball · Post by **Mirrorball** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:22 am

Mozilla 1.7 compiled from source is noticeably faster than Firefox 0.9 binary.

placeholder · Post by **placeholder** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:28 am

Mirrorball wrote:Mozilla 1.7 compiled from source is noticeably faster than Firefox 0.9 binary.

Since when was that a fair battle?

Mirrorball · Post by **Mirrorball** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:30 am

Pwnz3r wrote:Since when was that a fair battle?

I just thought someone would like to know...

placeholder · Post by **placeholder** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:34 am

Mirrorball wrote:
Pwnz3r wrote:Since when was that a fair battle?
I just thought someone would like to know...

Well compiling things often makes them faster than their pre-compiled binary counterparts.

Mirrorball · Post by **Mirrorball** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:39 am

Pwnz3r wrote: Well compiling things often makes them faster than their pre-compiled binary counterparts.

Yeah, I might have read something like this once or twice here in the forums...

tabanus · Post by **tabanus** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:57 pm

I noticed that Mozilla in Knoppix works much more smoothly than Firefox 0.8 in Gentoo. In Firefox, the page jerks up and down when rolling the mouse wheel, or dragging the tool bar. This has never made any sense to me, and I just assumed it must be something to do with the way I've set everything up. In view of what people are saying here, I emerged Mozilla.

I would say Mozilla is ever so slightly smoother than Firefox. It looks like it renders the whole page first, then displays it all at once, rather than Firefox which appears to display the page as each component is downloaded. On my broadband connection this doesn't mean very much, but on a dial-up, no doubt the Firefox way would be much nicer.

Both still aren't smooth enough. It's like trying to play a 3D game at 15fps. Possible, but it makes your eyes hurt.

I've been thinking of going back to Windows just because of this...until I tried Knoqueror. It's as smooth as Internet Explorer in Windows 98. I have run into trouble with compatability on some sites, but it's an altogether nicer browsing experience.

I still think it's some quirk of my setup, because Knoppix+Mozilla and Gentoo+Konqueror work.