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uxbod Guru
Joined: 30 Dec 2002 Posts: 474 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 12:04 am Post subject: vanilla-sources 2.4.20 & IDE problems |
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Its seems that I have been biten by the IDE and EXT3 problems under kernel 2.4.20. I have received a lot of errors when transferring large data files. At first I thought my HD had gone, but after searching the net and reading the latest Gentoo Weekly Newsletter I believe it is a kernel issue. So with that in mind what kernel should I go for? or should I move away from Ext3 onto Reiserfs? Dont really want to kick off another stage1 build until I bottom this out. |
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thadk Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 21 Jun 2002 Posts: 123
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 12:16 am Post subject: |
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I see, thanks for the quick response...hadn't even thought of that...now to roll back... |
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Rafixus n00b
Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 67
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Good thing that my 2.4.20 kernel compile died! |
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hyperion n00b
Joined: 26 Dec 2002 Posts: 31
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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I'm no fs whiz but I've used vanilla 2.4.20 and reiserfs now for a month and couldn't be happier. In fact I'd say this is the stablest Linux system I've had yet.
It recently served as a dedicated Q3/UT03 and samba file server at a lan party (oddly enough my 2 Tux boxes were, for a while, the only machines accessible by everyone in Network Neighborhood). I even emerged gftp and made a few iso images while hosting the game and we experienced zero server lag.
It has survived several graceless powerdowns and there's been zero disk problems. |
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PT_LAmb Guru
Joined: 22 Apr 2002 Posts: 332 Location: Lisboa (Lisbon), Portugal
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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I also agree that ReiserFS is pretty much stable.
I have 3 computers running under ReiserFS:
- My Personal Computer;
- A Samba server on a 15 M$ Windoze XP Workstations network;
- and a multi-purpose UNIX Server (for programming and fooling around), on my University student's network.
And to the moment, haven't got a single error. For me it's as stable as ext2.
Just my 2 cents...
Ricardo Cordeiro _________________ SETI@Home - http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ |
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gzaector Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 24 Nov 2002 Posts: 132 Location: 304
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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i have been using 2.4.20 and reiserfs for like 2 months now and have no problems with it at all |
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uxbod Guru
Joined: 30 Dec 2002 Posts: 474 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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When using ReiserFS do you need to do anything extra at install time ? |
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gzaector Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 24 Nov 2002 Posts: 132 Location: 304
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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uxbod wrote: | When using ReiserFS do you need to do anything extra at install time ? |
you have to make sure you have reiserfs support in the kernel, and you shoulld emerge sys-apps/reiserfsprogs at install time as well
-gza
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Kumba Developer
Joined: 16 Jul 2002 Posts: 393 Location: Sigma 957
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't heard of these IDE Problems until recently, but I'm using 2.4.20 && XFS on my x86 machine, and 2.4.20/ext3 on my sun blade 100 system. On the Blade 100, I haven't seen any peculiarities yet regarding IDE and ext3, so I wonder if this is 2.4.20 + ext3 +x86 issue only. Ideas anyone?
--Kumba _________________ "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between."
--Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic |
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uxbod Guru
Joined: 30 Dec 2002 Posts: 474 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2003 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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After 12 hours system is fully operational again This time I am running ReiserFS and no IDE problems yee-haaaaa Performance is definately better aswell. My personal opinion is that they really messed up something with EXT3 in 2.4.20. |
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sulu Guru
Joined: 21 May 2002 Posts: 399 Location: Dornbirn/Austria
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2003 11:17 am Post subject: |
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IDE is an issue with vanilla 2.4.20.
You could try the new gentoo-sources 2.4.20-r1 but you are happy with ReiserFS anyway.
I just installed the new gentoo-kernel and it looks promising so far but i haven't tested everything yet.
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uxbod Guru
Joined: 30 Dec 2002 Posts: 474 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2003 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Cannot be long before 2.5.X comes out ? |
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sulu Guru
Joined: 21 May 2002 Posts: 399 Location: Dornbirn/Austria
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2003 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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You mean 2.6.XX.
It might take some time for the release of kernel 2.6.
But the kernel 2.5 seems to perform quite well, although there seem to be some prolems with the nvidia drivers. |
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n8wood n00b
Joined: 11 Apr 2002 Posts: 33 Location: providence, ri usa
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Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:17 am Post subject: |
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I have also experienced ext3 corruption.
However, I am using gentoo-sources 2.4.19-r10. I will compile another kernel to test further. |
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474 l33t
Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 714
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Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2003 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Yup, people always hype up that ext3 is supposedly stable just because it "inherits" from ext2 which is a dangerous notion, IMHO. I posted a warning about ext3 and 2.4.20 here: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=28901 and asked the Gentoo security dude to mention it but it didn't happen. If you are going to use ext3 and 2.4.20 (which obviously I wouldn't recommend) then either use 2.4.21-pre or use all of Andrew Morton's patches for ext3 (there are several that he's written which are linked to in that post). In fact, he's written patches for both 2.4.20 and 2.4.21-pre!
I think ReiserFS is really stable and that, along with its very agreeable performance characteristics, makes it the best all round filesystem right now.
I want to find out more about these IDE problems. Linux deserves a good IDE layer, and it might just happen soon because Andre Hedrick has apparently learnt not to be such a difficult developer to work with and has taken over development on IDE again (according to Kernel Traffic) which is a good thing! |
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c_kuzmanic Guru
Joined: 18 Apr 2002 Posts: 488 Location: Los Angeles , California
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Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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uxbod wrote: | Cannot be long before 2.5.X comes out ? |
2.6 is due in early June, 2003. |
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