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camillo n00b
Joined: 30 Sep 2003 Posts: 45 Location: Torino, Italy
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:09 pm Post subject: Solaris Vs Gentoo |
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I just acquired an old Ultra 1e creator 3D with 128Mb ram 200Mhz processor 10Gb scsi disk and a creator 3d video card.
Now it's running solaris 9 but it's very slow and it doesen't have many software.
So I'm tinking to install gentoo on it. will I have some advantages doing it?
I'ts my first sparc machine !
Tanks to all
Camillo |
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jpreston n00b
Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Posts: 18 Location: Columbus, OH
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Camillo,
Personally I think Gentoo/Linux is more responsive and quicker. Be advised that a 64-bit Linux Userland is NOT implemented yet. The only thing that is 64-bit is the kernel. I've noticed quite a difference going from Solaris to Linux. I'd recommend it in a heart beat. Another advantage is that it is alot easier to get support when something doesn't work right with Linux than with Solaris. I find Gentoo has EXCELLENT support via IRC, Forums and Documentation!
Hope that helps!
Josh. |
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ciaranm Retired Dev
Joined: 19 Jul 2003 Posts: 1719 Location: In Hiding
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:45 am Post subject: |
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ultra 1s can't do 64bit userland anyway. The CPU's too broken. |
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spam_ Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 105 Location: /dev/null
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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ciaranm wrote: | ultra 1s can't do 64bit userland anyway. The CPU's too broken. |
Ummm... what? I thought it was mostly a matter of building a working 64-bit glibc, nothing with the CPU... |
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ciaranm Retired Dev
Joined: 19 Jul 2003 Posts: 1719 Location: In Hiding
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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spam_ wrote: | ciaranm wrote: | ultra 1s can't do 64bit userland anyway. The CPU's too broken. |
Ummm... what? I thought it was mostly a matter of building a working 64-bit glibc, nothing with the CPU... |
No, the USI has some extra problems. Basically some of the high order bits in the registers start to disappear randomly, so it can't even run slowaris in 64bit properly.
The USI second gen (all the 200 models and some of the later 167s IIRC) may or may not be affected. |
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spam_ Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 105 Location: /dev/null
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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ciaranm wrote: |
No, the USI has some extra problems. Basically some of the high order bits in the registers start to disappear randomly, so it can't even run slowaris in 64bit properly. |
I'm very surprised TI didn't test their US1s enough to find that problem!
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The USI second gen (all the 200 models and some of the later 167s IIRC) may or may not be affected. |
Hmm. I have one of each, should try running solaris or *BSD in 64-bit on them... if it works, I might try some experimenting with sparc 64-bit userland on gentoo (yes, I know the issues and have read all about it). |
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GenTimJS Guru
Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 406 Location: NH, USA
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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for what its worth, on my ultra1 creator3d 167mhz ive run slowaris in full 64bit for months with no problem, before i switched it over to gentoo _________________ -Tim Smith |
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IronWolve n00b
Joined: 23 Jun 2002 Posts: 41
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 10:30 pm Post subject: Sparc 5 |
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Solaris 2.6 CDE seems a tad more responsive on my sparc 5, but I mostly use the console, so decided to keep linux on it.
My Sunblade 100 runs gentoo, but I had to remove the creator card, so its a trade off on a fast GUI, vs a useable console with utilities. IceWM is usable enough, but anything with transparency is slow. (So no eye-candy)
But I really like the console on sparc's, 160 col x 64 rows (i think thats it) is really nice to display all the data. Plus no flicker in console |
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Sugarat Guru
Joined: 24 Jul 2002 Posts: 348
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Is that a 1280x1024 framebuffer console ? _________________ --[ UltraSPARC ]--
Accept no imitations |
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spam_ Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 105 Location: /dev/null
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Sugarat wrote: | Is that a 1280x1024 framebuffer console ? |
Should be 1152x900 by default, but on some framebuffers and monitors you can go to 1280x1024 or 1600x1200. |
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stonent Veteran
Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 1139 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Sadly, Solaris 9 feels faster on my Ultra AXe than Gentoo. But I'm fiddling with tuning it. _________________ Inspiron 4100 & Sun UltraAXe
Portage on Solaris|Dell Laptop Hacks
The way you feel about organized religion is the same way I feel about organized socialism. |
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camillo n00b
Joined: 30 Sep 2003 Posts: 45 Location: Torino, Italy
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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I have finaly installed gentoo on my ultra 1e!
Xorg-x11 + xfce4 is 10 times more fast than solaris 9.
Now I'm using gaim, firebird, thunderbird, and emerging anjuta...and the sistem is running quite well. I have only 128Mb of ram!!!!
So for ultra 1e use gentoo
The only think not working is audio. The driver seems to support only the PCI based cs4231 audio chipset and ultra 1 is a sbus system
I'm using kernel 2.6.6 |
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