kmail1 and KDE 4.6.5

[DieterK]

Hello,

is there a way to fix this mask changes?

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The following mask changes are necessary to proceed:
#required by kde-base/libplasmaclock-4.6.5[holidays], required by kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.6.5, required by kde-base/kde-meta-4.6.5, required by @selected, required by @world (argument)
# /etc/portage/package.mask:
>=kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.6.5
#required by kde-base/kdebase-runtime-meta-4.6.5[semantic-desktop], required by kde-base/kdebase-startkde-4.6.5, required by kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.6.5, required by kde-base/kde-meta-4.6.5, required by @selected, required by @world (argument)
# /etc/portage/package.mask:
>=kde-base/nepomuk-4.6.5

I have some libs masked for kde1, this could be a problem now i think

mask:

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>=kde-base/kmail-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-common-libs-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-icons-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-kresources-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-l10n-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-runtime-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-strigi-analyzer-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-wizards-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.6.0
>=kde-base/libkdepim-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-common-libs-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-icons-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-kresources-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-l10n-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-runtime-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-strigi-analyzer-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-wizards-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.6.0
>=kde-base/libkdepim-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kleopatra-4.6.0
>=kde-base/konsolekalendar-4.6.0
>=kde-base/knotes-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-kresources-4.6.0
>=kde-base/ktimetracker-4.6.0
>=kde-base/korganizer-4.6.0
>=kde-base/akonadiconsole-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kaddressbook-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kjots-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-wizards-4.6.0
>=kde-base/knode-4.6.0
>=kde-base/akregator-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kalarm-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kontact-4.6.0
>=kde-base/kdepim-strigi-analyzer-4.6.0
>=kde-base/nepomuk-4.6.0

I think I must say goodbye to kmail and use Sylpheed

Thanks

Dieter

[Randy Andy]

Yes DieterK,

or you will go ahead for using kmail2 in the future.

So unmask everything, to update successfully, as i did.

In the meantime kmail2 works fine for me, if you climb some little cliffs of migration.

Regards, Andy.

[DieterK]

kmail2 is way to slow for me, i tried it without migration with a new installation. But same problem.

~1000k mails and 9 IMAP accounts are too much for my PC. mysqld needs 100% CPU and changing folders ~10 seconds. kmail1 is fast like always...

Thanks

[DieterK]

Is there really no way to use kmail1 with newer versions of kde? (>4.6.0)


Thanks

[boris64]

Is there really no way to use kmail1 with newer versions of kde? (>4.6.0)

I also use the old kmail1 with KDE-4.6.5, this definitely works.

FYI, I have these packages installed, there should be no need to mask 'em:
=kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.6.5
=kde-base/nepomuk-4.6.5

@Randy Andy:
Kmail2 is a huge mess and IMO not ready for public use. Too many bugs, way too slow.
Too many people having problems with migration and so on(...)

[Randy Andy]

Hi Guys.

Yes kmail doesn't work perfect, but it get's better and better from version to version.
So for me kmail2 works better than kmail1, although it has some regressions.
It takes a little time and pain, to get it work as good as before, and some cosmetic faults i didn't fixed until now.
But under the line it has more improvements than disadvantages for me.

Only my 50cent.

Andy.

[toralf]

You need kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.6.5 - works fine together with KMail 4.4.11.1, FWIW here's my keyword file : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/437845/

[albright]

as Randy Andy says, I don't find kmail 2.1 too bad.

One annoyance is this: I cannot get kmail to change the
unread flag to read on some of my old messages (which it otherwise
imported OK). Even if I - and no matter how often - I either
read an old message or force it's status to "read", the next
time I start kmail or update folders, the offending messages
are back to being "unread" ...

anyone help on that ???

[boris64]

Yes, of course it's improving. But it's still not working as expected.
Just take at a look at the KDE forums and read all these threads by yourself.
-> http://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=20

I'd say: If you have lots of emails to import (argh!), wait until these things
have been sorted out and use the stable versions (v4.1.1*).
It's (not yet) worth it (at least for me and lot of others).

[KejPi]

Hi Guys.
It takes a little time and pain, to get it work as good as before, and some cosmetic faults i didn't fixed until now.

Could you please be more specific what to do to make Kmail2 working at least comparable to Kmail1. I have never had any problem with Kmail1, having about 8 POP3 accounts and about 25000 mails in several folders. Now when I switched to Kmail2 migration dialogue appeared and according to it everything was finished successfully. Nonetheless after migration following problems appeared:

1) Same messages are permanently marked as unread
2) Changing to different folder takes ages (>1min) with CPU load ~100% with GUI freeze and also some crashes
3) After some crashes I can see now 2x local folders and 1x Kmail folder that was not present after migration
4) akonadi, virtuoso-t and mysql together are using 100% of CPU after starting Kmail and even after exiting it uses a lot of CPU power (~50%)

You are the first one stating that Kmail2 is comparable to Kmail1. So could you please give us some hints what should be done to at least having working it without using full CPU power?

Thank you!

[Randy Andy]

Hi KejPi, all.

I fear that I'll have no patent remedy for that question, but I'm willing to share my findings with you, maybe it will help somebody.
And, i have only three Mail Accounts (two pop and one imap, together about 13.000 Mails/ 50% local stored, with lots of attachments) not as much as your's, but not so less for the truth of a statement.
The path descriptions i would give below are not real paths, it should be the way via the gui menues, and are translated by myself from my native language, so it's not the exact wording probably.

First advise: If the migration process is working, you shouldn't do anything until its finished, cause the system load. If it crashes nevertheless, restart it until it's finished.
Read its error output and try to fix it. In my case i got an error that kontact was not able to migrate the notes, cause it couldn't open the notes.file. No wonder, cause there wasn't one cause i never used it before.
But i had to delete all the defect notes in /Systemsettings/Personal Information/ before i could create a new one via the kontact gui successfully.

I guess your two local / Kmail folders were created by different unsuccessful migration trials. Eventually you can merge it later via the gui of kmail via drag & drop, if the process of actualization of your mail folders has been finished. To start this again, for empty folders, just do a right click on update folder and its sub-folders. Wait until every folder is ready, before starting the next.
After finishing this, my system load comes down a lot, but it takes some more time until the indexer strigi has been finished. What i found out regarding the settings of strigi on my system is, as more Ram you give to it, as more cpu load it will take. So on most machines i give 50MB to it, except on my Quad-Core with 8GB Ram, there i use max 200MB, otherwise the load gets to high.

Although my mail folders has been migrated successful, lots of other things doesn't work at all. So sending and receiving doesn't work right, cause some settings have changed confusingly after migation in kmail.
I had to correct it via gui in /kmail/Settings/Configure Kmail/Identities/your_Account_Name/Modify/Advanced/Special transport and the Folder Settings were wrong, especially on my imap Accounts it points to none existing folders, which confuses lots of things and increases the load too.
That happens also, if you delete one account to create it new by hand, then all settings are reseted to default.

I also had to change the settings at /kmail/Settings/Configure Kmail/Accounts/Receiving/Your_Account_Name/Modify/Advanced/Use default Identity and Trash Folder setting.

As a consequence of this, you have to check/correct the pointing Folders of your Filter rules via:
/kmail/Settings/Configure Filters/If you see: Please select a Filter instead of a target folder.

Only after doing all above, my regular upcoming marked as unread mails, disappeared forever after setting it as read manually.
Also the cpu load is fine since then, and kmail2 is more responsive than kmail1 before, when checking mails via imap. Pop was never a Problem before here.

Lots of other guys told to create a new System profile/ user account, crate your pop/imap accounts by hand to check if your trouble is gone. Than you would know what to do next, if nothing else would work.

So hopefully i haven't forget to give any hint i know at the moment.

Much success, Andy.

[KejPi]

Hello Andy, thank you a lot for your help. I will try your procedure but I am affraid I will have to start from scratch.