[Solved] Xorg with Noise, other distros work fine.

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solamour · Post by **solamour** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:53 am

Whenever I start X, the screen is covered with noise. I can see X apps running, but there is so much noise that I can barely make out what is displayed. The noise doesn't show up when I'm in the console mode; it only shows up when X starts.

I tried Slackware, Ubuntu, Damn Small Linux, and even Windows XP, and they all looked fine. I'm not sure what would be helpful, so I'm adding a few that come to my mind. Let me know if you need other things that might helpful. Thank you.

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/etc/X11/xorg.conf

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier     "X.org Configured"
	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
	RgbPath      "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
	ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/OTF"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load  "glx"
	Load  "extmod"
	Load  "xtrap"
	Load  "record"
	Load  "GLcore"
	Load  "dbe"
	Load  "dri"
	Load  "freetype"
	Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
	Driver      "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Mouse0"
	Driver      "mouse"
	Option	    "Protocol" "auto"
	Option	    "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
	Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
	ModelName    "Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Device"

        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
        #Option     "NoAccel"            	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "NoDRI"              	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "SWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "Dac6Bit"            	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "BusType"            	# [<str>]
        #Option     "DRM_nbufs"          	# <i>
        #Option     "DRM_bufsize"        	# <i>
        #Option     "Capabilities"       	# <i>
        #Option     "CapabilitiesEx"     	# <i>
        #Option     "ClientDriverName"   	# [<str>]
        #Option     "KernelModuleParm"   	# [<str>]
        #Option     "AGPMask"            	# <i>
        #Option     "AGPv3Mask"          	# <i>
        #Option     "BufferTiling"       	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "Profile"            	# <str>
        #Option     "RingSize"           	# <i>
        #Option     "EnableDepthMoves"   	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "GammaCorrectionI"   	# <i>
        #Option     "GammaCorrectionII"  	# <i>
        #Option     "OpenGLOverlay"      	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "DefaultVisualTrueColor" 	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "VideoOverlay"       	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "DesktopSetup"       	# [<str>]
        #Option     "MonitorLayout"      	# [<str>]
        #Option     "ForceMonitors"      	# [<str>]
        #Option     "EnableMonitor"      	# <str>
        #Option     "OverlayOnCRTC2"     	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "Mode2"              	# [<str>]
        #Option     "PairModes"          	# [<str>]
        #Option     "HSync2"             	# [<str>]
        #Option     "VRefresh2"          	# [<str>]
        #Option     "ScreenOverlap"      	# <i>
        #Option     "MemClock"           	# <i>
        #Option     "ASICClock"          	# <i>
        #Option     "UseInternalAGPGART" 	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "FastSwap"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "Stereo"             	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "StereoSyncEnable"   	# <i>
        #Option     "DisableOvScaler"    	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "UseFastTLS"         	# <i>
        #Option     "BlockSignalsOnLock" 	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "ForceGenericCPU"    	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "CenterMode"         	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "OffScreenPixmaps"   	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "EnableOpaqueOverlayVisual" 	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "TMDSCoherentMode"   	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "EnablePrivateBackZ" 	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "TVFormat"           	# [<str>]
        #Option     "TVStandard"         	# [<str>]
        #Option     "TVOverscan"         	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "TVHSizeAdj"         	# <i>
        #Option     "TVVSizeAdj"         	# <i>
        #Option     "TVHPosAdj"          	# <i>
        #Option     "TVVPosAdj"          	# <i>
        #Option     "TVHStartAdj"        	# <i>
        #Option     "TVColorAdj"         	# <i>
        #Option     "PseudoColorVisuals" 	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "PreferredVRefresh"  	# <i>
        #Option     "FastStart"          	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "ProfileDriver"      	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "PPPTforGART"        	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "TexturedVideo"      	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "TexturedVideoSync"  	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "Textured2D"         	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "TexturedXrender"    	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "DPMS"               	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "MaxGARTSize"        	# <i>
        #Option     "LogoPosX"           	# <i>
        #Option     "LogoPosY"           	# <i>
        #Option     "LogoColFG"          	# <i>
        #Option     "LogoColBG"          	# <i>
        #Option     "SwapScreens"        	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "FBC"                	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "FrontBufferMode"    	# <i>
        #Option     "BackBufferMode"     	# <i>
        #Option     "DepthBufferMode"    	# <i>
        #Option     "OverlayBufferMode"  	# <i>
        #Option     "VideoOverlayBufferMode" 	# <i>
        #Option     "EnableIrqMgr"       	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "EnableMulticard"    	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "EnablePPLIB"        	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "DefaultOnDC"        	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "EnableRandR12"      	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "DisableRotation"    	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "EnableCrossFire"    	# [<bool>]
	Identifier  "Card0"
	Driver      "fglrx"
	VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
	BoardName   "Unknown Board"
	BusID       "PCI:1:5:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen0"
	Device     "Card0"
	Monitor    "Monitor0"
	DefaultDepth     24
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     1
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     4
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     8
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     15
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     16
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     24
		Modes    "1280x1024"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

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Xorg -configure


X Window System Version 1.3.0
Release Date: 19 April 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3
Build Operating System: UNKNOWN 
Current Operating System: Linux athlonx2 2.6.24-tuxonice-r9 #3 SMP Thu Dec 18 11:44:22 PST 2008 i686
Build Date: 18 January 2009
	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jan 19 23:39:48 2009
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) Loader magic: 0x81e95c0
(II) Module ABI versions:
	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3
	X.Org Video Driver: 1.2
	X.Org XInput driver : 0.7
	X.Org Server Extension : 0.3
	X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libpcidata.so
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2
(--) using VT number 5

(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1022,9600 card 1043,82f1 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1043,9602 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:06:0: chip 1022,9606 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:11:0: chip 1002,4390 card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 01,06,01 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:12:0: chip 1002,4397 card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:12:1: chip 1002,4398 card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 0c,03,10 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:12:2: chip 1002,4396 card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:13:0: chip 1002,4397 card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:13:1: chip 1002,4398 card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 0c,03,10 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:13:2: chip 1002,4396 card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:14:0: chip 1002,4385 card 1043,82ef rev 3a class 0c,05,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:14:1: chip 1002,439c card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:14:2: chip 1002,4383 card 1043,82fe rev 00 class 04,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:14:3: chip 1002,439d card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:14:4: chip 1002,4384 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,04,01 hdr 81
(II) PCI: 00:14:5: chip 1002,4399 card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 0c,03,10 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:18:0: chip 1022,1100 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:18:1: chip 1022,1101 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:18:2: chip 1022,1102 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:18:3: chip 1022,1103 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 01:05:0: chip 1002,9610 card 1043,82f1 rev 00 class 03,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 01:05:1: chip 1002,960f card 1043,82f1 rev 00 class 04,03,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 02:00:0: chip 10ec,8168 card 1043,82c6 rev 02 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,3), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
	[0] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x001a (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
	[0] -1	0	0x0000d000 - 0x0000dfff (0x1000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0xfbd00000 - 0xfbefffff (0x200000) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0xd0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 2: bridge is at (0:6:0), (0,2,2), BCTRL: 0x0003 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) Bus 2 I/O range:
	[0] -1	0	0x0000e000 - 0x0000efff (0x1000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 2 non-prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0xfbf00000 - 0xfbffffff (0x100000) MX[B]
(II) Bus 2 prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0xfaf00000 - 0xfaffffff (0x100000) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:20:3), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Subtractive PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 3: bridge is at (0:20:4), (0,3,3), BCTRL: 0x0003 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(--) PCI:*(1:5:0) ATI Technologies Inc unknown chipset (0x9610) rev 0, Mem @ 0xd0000000/28, 0xfbef0000/16, 0xfbd00000/20, I/O @ 0xd000/8
List of video drivers:
	fglrx
(II) LoadModule: "fglrx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so
(II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
	compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.50.3
	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
	[0] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
	[1] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
	[0] -1	0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[1] -1	0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[5] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) Active PCI resource ranges:
	[0] -1	0	0xfaff0000 - 0xfaffffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[1] -1	0	0xfbfff000 - 0xfbffffff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0xfbee8000 - 0xfbeebfff (0x4000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0xfbcf9000 - 0xfbcf9fff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0xfbcf4000 - 0xfbcf7fff (0x4000) MX[B]
	[5] -1	0	0xfbcfa800 - 0xfbcfa8ff (0x100) MX[B]
	[6] -1	0	0xfbcfb000 - 0xfbcfbfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[7] -1	0	0xfbcfc000 - 0xfbcfcfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[8] -1	0	0xfbcff000 - 0xfbcff0ff (0x100) MX[B]
	[9] -1	0	0xfbcfd000 - 0xfbcfdfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[10] -1	0	0xfbcfe000 - 0xfbcfefff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[11] -1	0	0xfbcff800 - 0xfbcffbff (0x400) MX[B]
	[12] -1	0	0xfbd00000 - 0xfbdfffff (0x100000) MX[B](B)
	[13] -1	0	0xfbef0000 - 0xfbefffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[14] -1	0	0xd0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B)
	[15] -1	0	0x0000e800 - 0x0000e8ff (0x100) IX[B]
	[16] -1	0	0x0000ff00 - 0x0000ff0f (0x10) IX[B]
	[17] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[B]
	[18] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[B]
	[19] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[B]
	[20] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[B]
	[21] -1	0	0x00008000 - 0x0000800f (0x10) IX[B]
	[22] -1	0	0x00009000 - 0x00009003 (0x4) IX[B]
	[23] -1	0	0x0000a000 - 0x0000a007 (0x8) IX[B]
	[24] -1	0	0x0000b000 - 0x0000b003 (0x4) IX[B]
	[25] -1	0	0x0000c000 - 0x0000c007 (0x8) IX[B]
	[26] -1	0	0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B](B)
(II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps:
	[0] -1	0	0xfaff0000 - 0xfaffffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[1] -1	0	0xfbfff000 - 0xfbffffff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0xfbee8000 - 0xfbeebfff (0x4000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0xfbcf9000 - 0xfbcf9fff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0xfbcf4000 - 0xfbcf7fff (0x4000) MX[B]
	[5] -1	0	0xfbcfa800 - 0xfbcfa8ff (0x100) MX[B]
	[6] -1	0	0xfbcfb000 - 0xfbcfbfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[7] -1	0	0xfbcfc000 - 0xfbcfcfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[8] -1	0	0xfbcff000 - 0xfbcff0ff (0x100) MX[B]
	[9] -1	0	0xfbcfd000 - 0xfbcfdfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[10] -1	0	0xfbcfe000 - 0xfbcfefff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[11] -1	0	0xfbcff800 - 0xfbcffbff (0x400) MX[B]
	[12] -1	0	0xfbd00000 - 0xfbdfffff (0x100000) MX[B](B)
	[13] -1	0	0xfbef0000 - 0xfbefffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[14] -1	0	0xd0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B)
	[15] -1	0	0x0000e800 - 0x0000e8ff (0x100) IX[B]
	[16] -1	0	0x0000ff00 - 0x0000ff0f (0x10) IX[B]
	[17] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[B]
	[18] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[B]
	[19] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[B]
	[20] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[B]
	[21] -1	0	0x00008000 - 0x0000800f (0x10) IX[B]
	[22] -1	0	0x00009000 - 0x00009003 (0x4) IX[B]
	[23] -1	0	0x0000a000 - 0x0000a007 (0x8) IX[B]
	[24] -1	0	0x0000b000 - 0x0000b003 (0x4) IX[B]
	[25] -1	0	0x0000c000 - 0x0000c007 (0x8) IX[B]
	[26] -1	0	0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B](B)
(II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI:
	[0] -1	0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[1] -1	0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[5] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) All system resource ranges:
	[0] -1	0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[1] -1	0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0xfaff0000 - 0xfaffffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[5] -1	0	0xfbfff000 - 0xfbffffff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[6] -1	0	0xfbee8000 - 0xfbeebfff (0x4000) MX[B]
	[7] -1	0	0xfbcf9000 - 0xfbcf9fff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[8] -1	0	0xfbcf4000 - 0xfbcf7fff (0x4000) MX[B]
	[9] -1	0	0xfbcfa800 - 0xfbcfa8ff (0x100) MX[B]
	[10] -1	0	0xfbcfb000 - 0xfbcfbfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[11] -1	0	0xfbcfc000 - 0xfbcfcfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[12] -1	0	0xfbcff000 - 0xfbcff0ff (0x100) MX[B]
	[13] -1	0	0xfbcfd000 - 0xfbcfdfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[14] -1	0	0xfbcfe000 - 0xfbcfefff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[15] -1	0	0xfbcff800 - 0xfbcffbff (0x400) MX[B]
	[16] -1	0	0xfbd00000 - 0xfbdfffff (0x100000) MX[B](B)
	[17] -1	0	0xfbef0000 - 0xfbefffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[18] -1	0	0xd0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B)
	[19] -1	0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[20] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
	[21] -1	0	0x0000e800 - 0x0000e8ff (0x100) IX[B]
	[22] -1	0	0x0000ff00 - 0x0000ff0f (0x10) IX[B]
	[23] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[B]
	[24] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[B]
	[25] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[B]
	[26] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[B]
	[27] -1	0	0x00008000 - 0x0000800f (0x10) IX[B]
	[28] -1	0	0x00009000 - 0x00009003 (0x4) IX[B]
	[29] -1	0	0x0000a000 - 0x0000a007 (0x8) IX[B]
	[30] -1	0	0x0000b000 - 0x0000b003 (0x4) IX[B]
	[31] -1	0	0x0000c000 - 0x0000c007 (0x8) IX[B]
	[32] -1	0	0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B](B)
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:05:0
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Version Identifier:8.50.3
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Release Identifier: UNSUPPORTED-8.501                    
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Build Date: Jun  2 2008 22:46:56
(**) ChipID override: 0x9610
(**) Chipset Supported AMD Graphics Processor (0x9610) found
(++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new"
(==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "Card0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to:
	/usr/share/fonts/misc/,
	/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
	/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,
	/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
(**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Version Identifier:8.50.3
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Release Identifier: UNSUPPORTED-8.501                    
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Build Date: Jun  2 2008 22:46:56
(--) Chipset Supported AMD Graphics Processor (0x9610) found
Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.
  Configuration failed.

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lxg · Post by **lxg** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:10 pm

Have you tried running X without the xorg.conf at all (mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.tmp and restart X)?

Usually X finds a fairly good configuration itself. In case it works without an xorg.conf, you should try to remove experimental settings from your xorg.conf.

And, you could try using an xorg.conf from one of the other distros, if it works for you.

Bzub · Post by **Bzub** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:26 pm

check if you are using the kernel agp

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cd /usr/src/linux
grep AGP .config

If so try disabling it (as ati recommends). That was the source for my noise.

else try as said with a "clean" xorg.conf (I don't think xorg guesses fglrx, not sure though)

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Xorg -configure
aticonfig --initial

solamour · Post by **solamour** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:55 am

1) Removing AGP in the kernel didn't make any difference.

2) I started X without "/etc/X11/xorg.conf", but X failed to start at all; it complained that the required modules were missing, such as ati, fbdev, vesa, vga.

So I emerged "xf86-video-ati", which got rid of the module error, but this time, it stopped with the following message. I think it was there when it complained about the modules.

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(EE) No devices detected.
Fatal server error:
no screens found

3) "X -configure" gives me the following error message.

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(--) Chipset Supported AMD Graphics Processor (0x9610) found
Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.
  Configuration failed.

The motherboard, ASUS M3A78-EM, has an on-board video with a VGA, a DVI, and a HDMI ports. If I remember correctly, for some (unknown) reason, DVI wasn't compatible with the particular monitor I was testing, so I was using the VGA when I was setting it up.

I installed all the usual things I wanted, moved the box to its new home, and hooked it up to a monitor via DVI. That's when it started giving me a hard time. Just to check I wasn't missing anything, I tried the VGA, and the darn noise didn't go away(!), which worked OK before.

One thing that I noticed when I hooked it up to a DVI was that the console screen didn't fill the whole screen; there was about an inch of blank space around the screen even in the BIOS screen. I thought that was odd, but when I pulled out all the cables and tried again, the blank space was gone and I'm not able to reproduce the problem.

As for the noise, when I manage to start X, the screen looks fine for a fraction of a second, and then the noise kicks in. Also when I stop "powernowd" (I believe that's for using less electricity when the system is not doing much), the noise gets slightly reduced.

Being a rather novice, I'm not quite sure where to go from here. I've installed X on many different machines, and this is the first time I'm having this problem. Also other distros, such as Slackware and Ubuntu, are working fine, so I believe it's not about a bad cable. I'd appreciate any help. Thank you.
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lxg · Post by **lxg** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:06 am

The message "no screens found" is just a follow-up to the fact that your video card could not be configured.

Do you have any other (EE) lines in your Xorg.0.log? Would you mind posting the whole thing?

(edit: Fixed typo.)

Bzub · Post by **Bzub** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:20 pm

powernowd is for controlling your cpu. Have you got some really high cpu usage? check with top. That could give some problems.

Could you also post

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equery list ati

to see if the right drivers are installed?

solamour · Post by **solamour** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:58 pm

While messing with the setting, I found a few things I didn't know.

1) The motherboard has a VGA, a DVI, and a HDMI ports. When I plug in only 1 cable regardless of the type, I see noise on the screen. But when I plug in at least 2 cables (e.g. VGA and DVI at the same time), the noise is gone. That explains why there was no noise when I was setting it up with VGA, because the HDMI cable was connected that time.

2) It looks like it's either DVI or HDMI, but not both at the same time. I was hoping to use DVI as the main display and HDMI as the secondary (so that I can watch movies on TV), but I guess I'm out of luck here.

3) I think it's an unrelated issue, but I noticed the scrolling is very slow.

Now, if I add a graphic card, would I be able to use the graphic card's DVI and the motherboard's HDMI at the same time? If so, would it be wise to get an ATI instead of a NVIDIA because the motherboard is based on ATI?
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solamour · Post by **solamour** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:36 am

Here are a couple of outputs.

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equery list ati


[ Searching for package 'ati' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.501 (0)

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/var/log/Xorg.0.log (after I did "Xorg -configure")


X Window System Version 1.3.0
Release Date: 19 April 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3
Build Operating System: UNKNOWN 
Current Operating System: Linux athlonx2 2.6.24-tuxonice-r9 #5 SMP Tue Jan 20 20:48:46 PST 2009 i686
Build Date: 18 January 2009
	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Jan 21 01:29:08 2009
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) Loader magic: 0x81e95c0
(II) Module ABI versions:
	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3
	X.Org Video Driver: 1.2
	X.Org XInput driver : 0.7
	X.Org Server Extension : 0.3
	X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libpcidata.so
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2
(--) using VT number 5

(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1022,9600 card 1043,82f1 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1043,9602 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:06:0: chip 1022,9606 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:11:0: chip 1002,4390 card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 01,06,01 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:12:0: chip 1002,4397 card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:12:1: chip 1002,4398 card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 0c,03,10 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:12:2: chip 1002,4396 card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:13:0: chip 1002,4397 card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:13:1: chip 1002,4398 card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 0c,03,10 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:13:2: chip 1002,4396 card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:14:0: chip 1002,4385 card 1043,82ef rev 3a class 0c,05,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:14:1: chip 1002,439c card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:14:2: chip 1002,4383 card 1043,82fe rev 00 class 04,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:14:3: chip 1002,439d card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:14:4: chip 1002,4384 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,04,01 hdr 81
(II) PCI: 00:14:5: chip 1002,4399 card 1043,82ef rev 00 class 0c,03,10 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:18:0: chip 1022,1100 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:18:1: chip 1022,1101 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:18:2: chip 1022,1102 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:18:3: chip 1022,1103 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 01:05:0: chip 1002,9610 card 1043,82f1 rev 00 class 03,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 01:05:1: chip 1002,960f card 1043,82f1 rev 00 class 04,03,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 02:00:0: chip 10ec,8168 card 1043,82c6 rev 02 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,3), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
	[0] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x001a (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
	[0] -1	0	0x0000d000 - 0x0000dfff (0x1000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0xfbd00000 - 0xfbefffff (0x200000) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0xd0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 2: bridge is at (0:6:0), (0,2,2), BCTRL: 0x0003 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) Bus 2 I/O range:
	[0] -1	0	0x0000e000 - 0x0000efff (0x1000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 2 non-prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0xfbf00000 - 0xfbffffff (0x100000) MX[B]
(II) Bus 2 prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0xfaf00000 - 0xfaffffff (0x100000) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:20:3), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Subtractive PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 3: bridge is at (0:20:4), (0,3,3), BCTRL: 0x0003 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(--) PCI:*(1:5:0) ATI Technologies Inc unknown chipset (0x9610) rev 0, Mem @ 0xd0000000/28, 0xfbef0000/16, 0xfbd00000/20, I/O @ 0xd000/8
List of video drivers:
	fglrx
(II) LoadModule: "fglrx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so
(II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
	compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.50.3
	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
	[0] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
	[1] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
	[0] -1	0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[1] -1	0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[5] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) Active PCI resource ranges:
	[0] -1	0	0xfaff0000 - 0xfaffffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[1] -1	0	0xfbfff000 - 0xfbffffff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0xfbee8000 - 0xfbeebfff (0x4000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0xfbcf9000 - 0xfbcf9fff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0xfbcf4000 - 0xfbcf7fff (0x4000) MX[B]
	[5] -1	0	0xfbcfa800 - 0xfbcfa8ff (0x100) MX[B]
	[6] -1	0	0xfbcfb000 - 0xfbcfbfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[7] -1	0	0xfbcfc000 - 0xfbcfcfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[8] -1	0	0xfbcff000 - 0xfbcff0ff (0x100) MX[B]
	[9] -1	0	0xfbcfd000 - 0xfbcfdfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[10] -1	0	0xfbcfe000 - 0xfbcfefff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[11] -1	0	0xfbcff800 - 0xfbcffbff (0x400) MX[B]
	[12] -1	0	0xfbd00000 - 0xfbdfffff (0x100000) MX[B](B)
	[13] -1	0	0xfbef0000 - 0xfbefffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[14] -1	0	0xd0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B)
	[15] -1	0	0x0000e800 - 0x0000e8ff (0x100) IX[B]
	[16] -1	0	0x0000ff00 - 0x0000ff0f (0x10) IX[B]
	[17] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[B]
	[18] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[B]
	[19] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[B]
	[20] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[B]
	[21] -1	0	0x00008000 - 0x0000800f (0x10) IX[B]
	[22] -1	0	0x00009000 - 0x00009003 (0x4) IX[B]
	[23] -1	0	0x0000a000 - 0x0000a007 (0x8) IX[B]
	[24] -1	0	0x0000b000 - 0x0000b003 (0x4) IX[B]
	[25] -1	0	0x0000c000 - 0x0000c007 (0x8) IX[B]
	[26] -1	0	0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B](B)
(II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps:
	[0] -1	0	0xfaff0000 - 0xfaffffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[1] -1	0	0xfbfff000 - 0xfbffffff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0xfbee8000 - 0xfbeebfff (0x4000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0xfbcf9000 - 0xfbcf9fff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0xfbcf4000 - 0xfbcf7fff (0x4000) MX[B]
	[5] -1	0	0xfbcfa800 - 0xfbcfa8ff (0x100) MX[B]
	[6] -1	0	0xfbcfb000 - 0xfbcfbfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[7] -1	0	0xfbcfc000 - 0xfbcfcfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[8] -1	0	0xfbcff000 - 0xfbcff0ff (0x100) MX[B]
	[9] -1	0	0xfbcfd000 - 0xfbcfdfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[10] -1	0	0xfbcfe000 - 0xfbcfefff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[11] -1	0	0xfbcff800 - 0xfbcffbff (0x400) MX[B]
	[12] -1	0	0xfbd00000 - 0xfbdfffff (0x100000) MX[B](B)
	[13] -1	0	0xfbef0000 - 0xfbefffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[14] -1	0	0xd0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B)
	[15] -1	0	0x0000e800 - 0x0000e8ff (0x100) IX[B]
	[16] -1	0	0x0000ff00 - 0x0000ff0f (0x10) IX[B]
	[17] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[B]
	[18] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[B]
	[19] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[B]
	[20] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[B]
	[21] -1	0	0x00008000 - 0x0000800f (0x10) IX[B]
	[22] -1	0	0x00009000 - 0x00009003 (0x4) IX[B]
	[23] -1	0	0x0000a000 - 0x0000a007 (0x8) IX[B]
	[24] -1	0	0x0000b000 - 0x0000b003 (0x4) IX[B]
	[25] -1	0	0x0000c000 - 0x0000c007 (0x8) IX[B]
	[26] -1	0	0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B](B)
(II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI:
	[0] -1	0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[1] -1	0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[5] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) All system resource ranges:
	[0] -1	0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[1] -1	0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0xfaff0000 - 0xfaffffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[5] -1	0	0xfbfff000 - 0xfbffffff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[6] -1	0	0xfbee8000 - 0xfbeebfff (0x4000) MX[B]
	[7] -1	0	0xfbcf9000 - 0xfbcf9fff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[8] -1	0	0xfbcf4000 - 0xfbcf7fff (0x4000) MX[B]
	[9] -1	0	0xfbcfa800 - 0xfbcfa8ff (0x100) MX[B]
	[10] -1	0	0xfbcfb000 - 0xfbcfbfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[11] -1	0	0xfbcfc000 - 0xfbcfcfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[12] -1	0	0xfbcff000 - 0xfbcff0ff (0x100) MX[B]
	[13] -1	0	0xfbcfd000 - 0xfbcfdfff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[14] -1	0	0xfbcfe000 - 0xfbcfefff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[15] -1	0	0xfbcff800 - 0xfbcffbff (0x400) MX[B]
	[16] -1	0	0xfbd00000 - 0xfbdfffff (0x100000) MX[B](B)
	[17] -1	0	0xfbef0000 - 0xfbefffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
	[18] -1	0	0xd0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B)
	[19] -1	0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[20] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
	[21] -1	0	0x0000e800 - 0x0000e8ff (0x100) IX[B]
	[22] -1	0	0x0000ff00 - 0x0000ff0f (0x10) IX[B]
	[23] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[B]
	[24] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[B]
	[25] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[B]
	[26] -1	0	0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[B]
	[27] -1	0	0x00008000 - 0x0000800f (0x10) IX[B]
	[28] -1	0	0x00009000 - 0x00009003 (0x4) IX[B]
	[29] -1	0	0x0000a000 - 0x0000a007 (0x8) IX[B]
	[30] -1	0	0x0000b000 - 0x0000b003 (0x4) IX[B]
	[31] -1	0	0x0000c000 - 0x0000c007 (0x8) IX[B]
	[32] -1	0	0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B](B)
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:05:0
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Version Identifier:8.50.3
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Release Identifier: UNSUPPORTED-8.501                    
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Build Date: Jun  2 2008 22:46:56
(**) ChipID override: 0x9610
(**) Chipset Supported AMD Graphics Processor (0x9610) found
(++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new"
(==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "Card0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to:
	/usr/share/fonts/misc/,
	/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
	/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,
	/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
(**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Version Identifier:8.50.3
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Release Identifier: UNSUPPORTED-8.501                    
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Build Date: Jun  2 2008 22:46:56
(--) Chipset Supported AMD Graphics Processor (0x9610) found
Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.
  Configuration failed.

lxg · Post by **lxg** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:17 am

In both your Xorg.0.log outputs, it says:

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(++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new"

I don't know why that is and if it is the source your trouble, but it might be worth investigating.

solamour · Post by **solamour** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:50 am

According to "The X Server Configuration HOWTO" (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml), I believe I'm supposed to get "/root/xorg.conf.new" after issuing "Xorg -configure", so that I can test it before putting it at "/etc/X11".

Anyhow, for now, I'm just hooking up both DVI and VGA at the same time, even though I'm using DVI only. This gets rid of the noise issue, which is good enough for me. Perhaps I might tinker with the "radeonhd" driver or a new graphic card later, but I'm going to leave it as is and consider the problem solved. Besides, the whole point was to use DVI as the primary and HDMI as the secondary, but if I can't use them simultaneously, I might as well get a cheapo graphic card anyway.

Thanks everyone for taking time to respond. You've been all very much helpful.
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