x server crashes with any gnome application

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aitch · Post by **aitch** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:51 am

hey, I've recently been having some major problems with gnome applications.

whenever I open one up, like gnome-theme-manager for example, it crashes whatever DE I'm in and kicks me to this perpetually reloading X screen where my cursor will be displayed briefly and then (what seems like) X restarts, then the cursor.. over and over.

I can get to the KDM login prompt by switching to a regular terminal and switching back, but if I don't switch it just just stays on that crash loop indefinitely.

I'm at the end of a battle with pygtk and numeric, so I've had to recompile a ton of python packages on my computer.

I've emerge --sync'd, emerge -avtD world'd, revdep-rebuild'd and run python-updater, so I have no idea what I'm supposed to do to get this working, or even where I should be looking for clues, since Xorg.0.log tells me nothing.

any advice at all would be much appreciated. I'll post whatever people ask to see.

Xmist · Post by **Xmist** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:42 am

Does your screen blink and go to terminal mode then blinks again like its trying to start X? (just trying to clarify)

aitch · Post by **aitch** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:23 am

yup! that's exactly it. it's like it's just trying to start X over and over again.

it's weird though, if I switch to terminal and switch back it works fine, so long as I don't run any gnome applications.

Xmist · Post by **Xmist** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:33 pm

I had a same problem a while back but it happened when I was trying to boot my machine to gdm. Anyway I think to fix it it might be some minor thing in the xorg.conf file or you might need to re emerge something. It happened to me a while back but i forgot the proper steps.

Hopefully this helps you somewhat.

aitch · Post by **aitch** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:01 pm

I haven't changed my xorg.conf at all for a long while, so I dunno how that could have caused it - you're right, more likely I do have to re-emerge something. but what? I've done all the obvious packages, xorg-server, xorg-x11, xdm, kdm, control-center, gnome-panel .. uh .. if you can think of any others that might be related, please let me know

Xmist · Post by **Xmist** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:16 pm

Which graphics card do you have nvidia, ati or other?

Did you just upgraded to the new xorg version(xorg-6.X to 7.X)?

aitch · Post by **aitch** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:54 pm

nvidia, and yeah, I just upgraded to 7.3 I think, the newest.

Xmist · Post by **Xmist** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:14 am

did you had xorg 6.x before and just upgrade to 7.x

or

xorg 7.x to a newer version of 7.x

aitch · Post by **aitch** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:27 am

I had xorg 7.2 and I upgraded to 7.3, I think...

Xmist · Post by **Xmist** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:10 pm

hmm since it was a minor upgrade I don't think that the xorg.conf will be affected.

I would like to see the xorg log

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cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log

just give me the last 25 lines of the log (I know that its pretty big)

aitch · Post by **aitch** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:12 pm

sorry about the delay on replying, spent a weekend with my family.

the log seems pretty normal.. my wacom tablet is also acting up, not appearing in the wacomcpl device manager, but you couldn't tell from the log.

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(II) evaluating device (eraser)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "eraser" (type: Wacom Eraser)
(II) evaluating device (stylus)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "stylus" (type: Wacom Stylus)
(II) evaluating device (cursor)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "cursor" (type: Wacom Cursor)
(II) evaluating device (Keyboard1)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard1" (type: KEYBOARD)
(II) evaluating device (Mouse0)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE)
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom_udev"
eraser Wacom X driver grabbed event device
(==) Wacom using pressure threshold of 61 for button 1
(==) Wacom USB Intuos2 tablet speed=9600 maxX=30480 maxY=24060 maxZ=1023 resX=2540 resY=2540  tilt=enabled
(==) Wacom device "eraser" top X=0 top Y=0 bottom X=30480 bottom Y=24060
(==) Wacom device "stylus" top X=0 top Y=0 bottom X=30480 bottom Y=24060
(==) Wacom device "cursor" top X=0 top Y=0 bottom X=30480 bottom Y=24060
(--) Mouse0: PnP-detected protocol: "ExplorerPS/2"
(II) Mouse0: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/TTF/, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/OTF, removing from list!

every time I load gnome-theme-manager it causes X to reset. could I revdep-rebuild the related libraries?
regular revdep-rebuild doesn't pick up anything.

dweigert · Post by **dweigert** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:29 pm

There is a bug with the latest x.org and the wacom driver. If I try to use my tablet in *any* way, mouse, pen, eraser... It crashes X hard.

Dan

Xmist · Post by **Xmist** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:30 am

Did it crash in previous versions?

aitch · Post by **aitch** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:33 am

nope, it's always run fine in previous versions - I had a gnome-applet command in my KDE startup script that started crashing on startup.

had to take that out, obviously. but this kind of thing has never happened before.

Xmist · Post by **Xmist** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:33 am

My guess that the newer version of xorg is buggy.

I will suggest to down grade to what ever version that was working and wait till there is a newer version or the current version is fixed other than that I am stumped.

A rule of thumb: don't fix it if it is not broken. (unless theres a security flaw or hole)

aitch · Post by **aitch** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:56 am

what are the essential packages I need to downgrade? do I need to worry about X dependencies?

xorg-server, xorg-x11, xf86-input-keyboard, xf86-input-mouse, linuxwacom ..

anything else?

Xmist · Post by **Xmist** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:14 am

Sorry for the late reply I don't think you need any more packages to down grade to the Xorg version 7.2. Also its a very minor down grade because of the .1 number, a major upgrade/downgrade would be a whole number (usually the case), for example xorg-6.8 to 7.x.

So just take off Xorg from the /etc/portage/package.keywords (not sure if it is with a 's' or without) and you should be back on the stable Xorg