OOo huge GUI fonts

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El_Presidente_Pufferfish · Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:58 pm

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/elprespuf ... gfonts.png

As you can see above, my GUI fonts in openoffice are huge. The fonts are fine when I type on the paper itself, its just the menus and such

I'm pretty sure they used to be like the firefox menus. If I Scale Openoffice to 80% in it's options, the GUI fonts become normal, but then the paper is smaller than it really is.

Any ideas?

loony · Post by **loony** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:54 pm

El_Presidente_Pufferfish wrote:As you can see above, my GUI fonts in openoffice are huge. The fonts are fine when I type on the paper itself, its just the menus and such[...]

Did you look at the option to use system fonts in the tools-menu->options->view?

El_Presidente_Pufferfish · Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:32 am

loony wrote:
El_Presidente_Pufferfish wrote:As you can see above, my GUI fonts in openoffice are huge. The fonts are fine when I type on the paper itself, its just the menus and such[...]
Did you look at the option to use system fonts in the tools-menu->options->view?

Tried it, along with Icon Size, and screen font anti-aliasing turned off

quad · Post by **quad** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:34 pm

Also have this problem here. I migrated my system from FreeBSD (6.0-RELEASE) to Gentoo (but also uses Gentoo on another computer for a few months already). On FreeBSD, OpenOffice 2.0 looked perfect. On Gentoo, fonts are exaggeratedly over-sized. Can't seem to figure out how to fix it. Does anyone have an idea?

Update:
Have searched a bit more in the forums. This definitely seems to be related to the desktop used. I personally use Fluxbox, while on my
FreeBSD installation I had GNOME installed (but switched to Fluxbox at some point; on my present Gentoo installation, GNOME is not installed at all). A few threads on this forum refer to GNOME or KDE for various fixes. At least one suggests to start OpenOffice with the environment variable OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP set to "gnome" or "kde", which partially resolves my issue.

When starting OOO normally: http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4295 ... ult4ui.png
When starting OOO with OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome: http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/127/ ... ome0sp.png

(I neither have GNOME or KDE installed on this system. I do however have GTK2, but not QT.)

Also note that the quality of the UI font is not that bad, only the size seems to be too big. Fonts are OK everywhere else on my Fluxbox desktop.

Some other related threads:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-44 ... fonts.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-52 ... fonts.html (helps, but it's not perfect, and I don't use GNOME)
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-51 ... fonts.html

swimmer · Post by **swimmer** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:03 am

The above tip together with the gtk-configuration should help you ...

My ~/.gtkrc-2.0:

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include "/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"
include "/home/<YOUR_USER>/.gtkrc.mine"

My ~/.gtkrc.mine:

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gtk-icon-theme-name="gnome"

style "user-font"
{
  font_name="Linux Libertine 13"
}
widget_class "*" style "user-font"
gtk-font-name="Linux Libertine 13"

This gives me nice looking menu fonts for *all* my GTK-apps (Gvim, Mozilla, OOO ...) ...

HTH
swimmer

quad · Post by **quad** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:17 pm

Will try it. The theme /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks doesn't exist on my system so I need to find out what to install for it to appear. Not sure about the Libertine font too. Thanks.

Update:
emerge -va smooth-themes installed the missing theme. Experimenting further...

swimmer · Post by **swimmer** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:21 pm

quad wrote:Will try it. The theme /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks doesn't exist on my system so I need to find out what to install for it to appear. Not sure about the Libertine font too. Thanks.

Update:
emerge -va smooth-themes installed the missing theme. Experimenting further...

It's not about the theme or font I use - you can choose whatever you want ... just put it into these files

Greetz
swimmer

quad · Post by **quad** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:44 pm

Oh, I have some results now.

Here is what I did:
- emerge gtk-theme-switch to switch GTK themes, but that seems very optional
- Pasted swimmer's code into the mentioned files
- Changed all font name occurrences to be "Luxi Sans 8" in ~/.gtkrc.mine
- Switched the theme with switch2 /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks (this modifies your ~/.gtkrc-2.0, which is why I think ~/.gtkrc.mine have been created) (and surprisingly, Firefox and Thunderbird crashed when switch2 was executed!)
- Started OOO with OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome

Result is the following: http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6285 ... xed6eh.png
But, other apps (firefox, gvim, thunderbird, gaim), looks like this (fonts are a bit too small): http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5090 ... ont5lv.png

So perhaps it's just a matter of finding the correct font size in ~/.gtkrc.mine.

I'm surprised though that one must hack around like this to fix a font problem -- I'd never have guessed how to fix it. Thanks swimmer for the hints!

Update:
Font name "Bitstream Vera Sans 9" looks better.
Also, this is the error left by firefox/thunderbird when running switch2, if that can be of any help to anyone:
/usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher: line 117: 27752 Segmentation fault "$mozbin" "$@"

ahurst · Post by **ahurst** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:23 pm

Also worth checking - if your monitor doesn't use DDC or EDID, you'll have to explicitlty state the monitor's dot pitch (dpi) or display size (displaysize) in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf monitor section.

See

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xorg_and_Fonts

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Set_DPI_(Dots_Per_Inch)

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ins ... ndo_o_xorg

and 'man xorg.conf'

Put [solved] in title if it works eh?

Andy

El_Presidente_Pufferfish · Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:03 pm

OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome fixed it for me

can anybody explain why, and what desktop it was defaulting to?(and where it looks for settings?)

also, what other desktops can i force it to

quad · Post by **quad** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:32 am

I think it uses some default Java settings.

widremann · Post by **widremann** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:02 am

Does anybody know how to get it to use my font rendering settings for GTK or Qt? It used to work until OO 2.03 or so, and then now it just uses its own horrid anti-aliasing settings. When I turn off anti-aliasing, it's all ugly, whereas with GTK/Qt, turning off anti-aliasing is fine because I turned off the autohinter in /etc/fonts/local.conf.

quad · Post by **quad** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:58 pm

Does setting the environment variable OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome or =kde work for you? It needs to be set before running the OO programs, as in:

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$ OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome ooffice2

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