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Post by Robelix » Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:15 pm

I just found out that my favorite terminal - the multi-gnome-terminal - is going to be removed from portage with gnome1 :(
Is there another terminal with the same features? (tabs and split frames)
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Post by Chaosite » Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:36 pm

urxvt can do tabs with a perl script, and for split frame, use screen.

But I really like urxvt, otherwise known as rxvt-unicode.

mlterm is also servicable.
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Post by wolf_99 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:29 am

I wrote a multitab terminal using Python, PyGTK and VTE. It's a bit hard for me to upload it (for several reasons) but I am planing to do it in a week or two.
The program is called "Shablul", its the Hebrew word for snail, and would be released as a GPL program.
A post will be posted when it would be released. It's just thst I never thought that such a program was needed so I didn't push to have it uploaded.
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Post by Icer » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:57 am

Robelix wrote:I just found out that my favorite terminal - the multi-gnome-terminal - is going to be removed from portage with gnome1 :(
Is there another terminal with the same features? (tabs and split frames)
What do you mean with split frames? The latest gnome terminal has tabs, btw.
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Post by fangorn » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:30 am

Use xterm as a proper terminal emulator and for the tabs a proper window manager (like fluxbox or fvwm) :wink:
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Post by Robelix » Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:46 pm

Icer wrote: What do you mean with split frames? The latest gnome terminal has tabs, btw.
This:
http://www.robelix.com/pix/terminal.png

I know the split features of screen, but it's not really the thing I want. I often use the split to have two diffrent machines side by side. With the multi-gnome-terminal I just hit in the New-Terms-Menu "other-box"->"VSplit". With screen it would always be two steps - splitting and ssh to the oter box.

I had a look to urxvt, mlterm, multi-aterm, gnome-terminal and konsole - so far nothing I really like :?
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Post by Icer » Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:14 pm

Robelix wrote:
Icer wrote: What do you mean with split frames? The latest gnome terminal has tabs, btw.
This:
http://www.robelix.com/pix/terminal.png

I know the split features of screen, but it's not really the thing I want. I often use the split to have two diffrent machines side by side. With the multi-gnome-terminal I just hit in the New-Terms-Menu "other-box"->"VSplit". With screen it would always be two steps - splitting and ssh to the oter box.

I had a look to urxvt, mlterm, multi-aterm, gnome-terminal and konsole - so far nothing I really like :?
Oh, yeah. That's a useful feature. You could use 2 terminal windows next to each other but it's not as useful.
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Post by devsk » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:31 pm

Robelix wrote:
Icer wrote: What do you mean with split frames? The latest gnome terminal has tabs, btw.
This:
http://www.robelix.com/pix/terminal.png

I know the split features of screen, but it's not really the thing I want. I often use the split to have two diffrent machines side by side. With the multi-gnome-terminal I just hit in the New-Terms-Menu "other-box"->"VSplit". With screen it would always be two steps - splitting and ssh to the oter box.

I had a look to urxvt, mlterm, multi-aterm, gnome-terminal and konsole - so far nothing I really like :?
with gnome-terminal, you can have two profiles, one for each machine. for the remote profile, enter a custom command of ssh'ing into the remote box instead of the login shell and when you say New Tab, select the remote profile (shortcuts are there as well), it will open a new tab and ssh into the remote box.

You can achieve the same with konsole schemas and sessions. A session can use any schema and can have any command executed in it. Create a new session and invoke from the New menu, it will open a new tab and ssh into you remote box in one step.

of course, both these can be configured to have kbd shortcuts to start a particular profile/session in new tab.
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Post by slougi » Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:40 am

You could try QuadKonsole.
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Post by devsk » Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:54 am

slougi wrote:You could try QuadKonsole.
nice! do we have an ebuild somewhere?
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Post by mark_alec » Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:32 am

devsk wrote:
slougi wrote:You could try QuadKonsole.
nice! do we have an ebuild somewhere?
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94938
That ebuild is unlikely to work though, so you might want to make a new one based on the current version of QuadKonsole to see if it works.
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Post by devsk » Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:40 am

mark_alec wrote:
devsk wrote:
slougi wrote:You could try QuadKonsole.
nice! do we have an ebuild somewhere?
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94938
That ebuild is unlikely to work though, so you might want to make a new one based on the current version of QuadKonsole to see if it works.
that bug is closed. anyway, I wrote a small skeleton ebuild for it and built it. It has some interesting properties and quirks. But I think overall its good for certain things, like the OP here.[/code]
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Post by oliver » Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:10 pm

Icer wrote:The latest gnome terminal has tabs, btw.
It does, but doesn't have the features I love in MGT (as far as I know)

Is there another terminal that supports:

1) tabs (that can be renamed and moved)
2) split screens (horizontally and vertically)
3) blasting commands to all tabs at once
4) notification that an inactive terminal has changed (the tab title changes colour)

Assuming there isn't something out there that does this, would it be possible to stick mgt (and the libraries it requires) into a portdir overlay or is it too intertwined with gnome1 to be worthwhile?
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Post by Superfly » Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:06 pm

KDE's Konsole can do tabs with all 4 of your points there.

But in my opinion, no where near as well as mutl-gnome-terminal did.
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Post by Robelix » Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:43 pm

Am I blind? - or where is the split screen hidden in konsole?
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Post by oliver » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:18 pm

Superfly wrote:KDE's Konsole can do tabs with all 4 of your points there.

But in my opinion, no where near as well as mutl-gnome-terminal did.
thanks - those features are worth installing the kde libraries to me :-)
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Post by Dan » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:28 pm

tried emerge yakuake ?
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