xorg-x11 7.1 and nvidia

[avieth]

So I'm gonna try modular X again. Last time I did X wouldn't start and didn't even give an error message so I had to move back to 6 series.

In this guide it says nvidia drivers arn't supported in 7.1... is this true? I use the nvidia-drivers ebuild, not glx and kernel.

[Headrush]

So I'm gonna try modular X again. Last time I did X wouldn't start and didn't even give an error message so I had to move back to 6 series.

In this guide it says nvidia drivers arn't supported in 7.1... is this true? I use the nvidia-drivers ebuild, not glx and kernel.

Using the RENDER extension in particular doesn't work.

You can upgrade to xorg-7 modular, just add this to /etc/package/package.mask

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>=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99
>=x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.1.0
>=x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.1.1
>=x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-1.1.0

Do this and everything should work as before. (Just keeps from updating to the latest version of those that break ABI.

[kmare]

Soon, i believe on monday, nvidia will release an updated driver that'll fix the incompatibilities with xorg 7.1 (version 8774) with a few bug fixes. But unfortunally we won't see support for newer stuff like tfp for aiglx. That will happen with the 9xxx series...

[avieth]

really, they're planning on supporting aiglx in the 9 series? Doesn't that mean Xegl will work on nvidia chipsets? I don't have a very good understand of all this **glx stuff.

[Phenax]

Soon, i believe on monday, nvidia will release an updated driver that'll fix the incompatibilities with xorg 7.1 (version 8774) with a few bug fixes. But unfortunally we won't see support for newer stuff like tfp for aiglx. That will happen with the 9xxx series...

Did you get this from a reliable resource? I'm patiently waiting for Xorg 7.1 support, with or without AIGLX and related.

[VValdo]

Soon, i believe on monday, nvidia will release an updated driver that'll fix the incompatibilities with xorg 7.1 (version 8774) with a few bug fixes. But unfortunally we won't see support for newer stuff like tfp for aiglx. That will happen with the 9xxx series...

Man oh man... I've been waiting to use aiglx forEVER now... when's the 9xxx series coming?

W

[irondog]

Soon, i believe on monday, nvidia will release an updated driver that'll fix the incompatibilities with xorg 7.1 (version 8774) with a few bug fixes. But unfortunally we won't see support for newer stuff like tfp for aiglx. That will happen with the 9xxx series...

Wow, but that's about time. As far as I know one only needs to recompile 7.0 drivers to get them working on 7.1. So in my opinion NVIDIA has been a little lazy the last few months: The breakage was only there in the ABI.

Man oh man... I've been waiting to use aiglx forEVER now... when's the 9xxx series coming?

W

Just wait. Aiglx itself isn't very mature. It's nice that it is out in the wild, but it's far from complete.

I'ld love to see composite running with XV more reliable just like GLX is doing now. The main problems to implement this properly in the drivers has been solved recently, so I expect this two-years-old bug will be solved soon.

[Slalomsk8er]

So I'm gonna try modular X again. Last time I did X wouldn't start and didn't even give an error message so I had to move back to 6 series.

In this guide it says nvidia drivers arn't supported in 7.1... is this true? I use the nvidia-drivers ebuild, not glx and kernel.

Using the RENDER extension in particular doesn't work.

You can upgrade to xorg-7 modular, just add this to /etc/package/package.mask

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>=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99
>=x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.1.0
>=x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.1.1
>=x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-1.1.0

Do this and everything should work as before. (Just keeps from updating to the latest version of those that break ABI.

You are missing some thing as on my system the following needs to be in /etc/portage/package.mask:

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# unmask after a new nvidia driver is ready status 20060809
>=x11-base/xorg-x11-7.1
>=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99
>=x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.1.0
>=x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.1.1
>=x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-1.1.0

The xf86-input-evdev gave me a lot of trouble as my X didn't longer found a corepointer with the new version and I didn't found an answer on the net.
So if you get a fatal error because module evdev could not be loaded and because of this X has no corepointer and won't start mask x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-1.1.0!

[Headrush]

On x86 and amd64 the xorg-x11-7.1 and the other appropriate ebuilds aren't arch yet so these entries shouldn't be needed anymore.
Just stick with arch and not ~arch.

Edit: The modular Xorg isn't ~arch anymore so no need to worry about pulling in higher ~arch versions.

[kmare]

Did you get this from a reliable resource? I'm patiently waiting for Xorg 7.1 support, with or without AIGLX and related.

i read it here:
http://www.phoronix.net/forums/showthre ... 108&page=4 AaronP is a nvidia developer working on the linux driver and pretty active in the Xorg development.

[VValdo]

Did you get this from a reliable resource? I'm patiently waiting for Xorg 7.1 support, with or without AIGLX and related.

i read it here:
http://www.phoronix.net/forums/showthre ... 108&page=4 AaronP is a nvidia developer working on the linux driver and pretty active in the Xorg development.

Hmm. Almost noon PST and so far, no driver....

(finger itching on the "emerge" button...)

W

[VValdo]

Damn, looks like this turned out to be a false rumor...

Oh well.

W

[jwj]

The nvidia 8774 drivers are on the ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/ FTP Server.

Changelog:

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    * Added support for X.Org 7.1.

    * Added support for XVideo with the Composite X extension when
      using X.Org 7.1.

    * Improved interaction with newer Linux kernels.

[hpestilence]

Also I think nvidia-settings has been released as 1.0. At least the date is around the same time the nvidia-drivers were updated.

ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nvidia-settings/

[irondog]

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    * Added support for XVideo with the Composite X extension when
      using X.Org 7.1.

Ow fucking YES! This has been on my wishlist for more than two years!!

[slycordinator]

Wow, but that's about time. As far as I know one only needs to recompile 7.0 drivers to get them working on 7.1. So in my opinion NVIDIA has been a little lazy the last few months: The breakage was only there in the ABI.

Short answer: You're wrong.

Long answer: When NVIDIA devs were asked why they didn't just do a recompile they explained why this wouldn't help. This happend quite a long time ago now.

[irondog]

Long answer: When NVIDIA devs were asked why they didn't just do a recompile they explained why this wouldn't help. This happend quite a long time ago now.

I don't know about the magic tricks in the NVIDIA drivers. I thought it was just a matter of recompilation and in some cases a matter of making a little change in the source to make drivers working on 7.1.

So, maybe I was wrong, but I doubt if making the old driver just run on 7.1 would have to take three months.

[Matteo Azzali]

So, maybe I was wrong, but I doubt if making the old driver just run on 7.1 would have to take three months.

Isn't all related to xorg-7.1 . One of the point,IMHO, of this late are the licensing issues and all the rumors about,
another are some issues with newer kernels (seems that in certain configurations kernels >2.6.15 like to put nvidia on
already busy irq instead to get a free one, for example, mine is one of that configurations.... funny that my
kernel prints out "nvidia license taunts kernel", but I don't know about any "ATI fglrx license taunts kernel"message,
and they have both the same identical license issue with kernel).

Last there's the ...texture_from_pixmap function, with which story we could fill some pages, and which still isn't released
in nvidia-drivers.

[Bolli]

i just emerged xorg-x11 7.1 but i can't see any improvement.

can someone tell it for me stupid?

but with nvidia-drivers it works quite good but not really stable

[tabanus]

nvidia have released an xorg 7.1 compatible driver. Hopefully it won't be long before it's in portage

[Bolli]

it is in portage already

[harrisonmetz]

Hopefully it wont be long before xorg-x11-7.1 becomes available. I see its masked in the /etc/portage/package.mask file, should I unmask it for myself or should I wait for portage to do it?

[kmare]

portage doesn't touch /etc/portage/package.mask. It's a config file that you use to override defaults in portage. So yeah, you'll have to edit it yourself. Btw, you'll also have to wait for a new ebuild for xorg-server as it's still blocked by the nvidia drivers.

[harrisonmetz]

portage doesn't touch /etc/portage/package.mask. It's a config file that you use to override defaults in portage. So yeah, you'll have to edit it yourself. Btw, you'll also have to wait for a new ebuild for xorg-server as it's still blocked by the nvidia drivers.

Alright. Thanks

[WhiteSpade]

nVidia released the new drivers today (8774) and boasts

* Added support for X.Org 7.1.
* Added support for XVideo with the Composite X extension when using X.Org 7.1.
* Improved interaction with newer Linux kernels.

Might help in your 7.1 efforts.

---Alex