Installing Gentoo 2006.0 x86 with {Free,Net}BSD installed

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cousin · Post by **cousin** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:43 pm

I can't install Gentoo on my system with the first 3 primary partitions assigned to the BSD's and the last primary partition being a DOS extended partition with 5 ext2 logical partitions inside where I want to (hopefully) install Gentoo. The problem is that the livecd kernel doesn't have UFS support enabled and no modules are present in the modules directory at /lib/modules.../fs/

I only have a PPP account. I lost my time downloading the livecd to discover it lacks the stand-alone capabilities to install itself. I don't mind downloading the stage3 tarball and storing it in my hard drive. Thanks in advance if you have any ideas.

cyblord · Post by **cyblord** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:09 am

have you tried to use the minimal installation guides? follow the gentoo handbook for more info.

htranou · Post by **htranou** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:52 am

cousin wrote:I can't install Gentoo on my system with the first 3 primary partitions assigned to the BSD's and the last primary partition being a DOS extended partition with 5 ext2 logical partitions inside where I want to (hopefully) install Gentoo. The problem is that the livecd kernel doesn't have UFS support enabled and no modules are present in the modules directory at /lib/modules.../fs/

I only have a PPP account. I lost my time downloading the livecd to discover it lacks the stand-alone capabilities to install itself. I don't mind downloading the stage3 tarball and storing it in my hard drive. Thanks in advance if you have any ideas.

Not sure why you would need to write or even read your BSD's partitions during the install. You could write your stage3 tarball in one of your ext2 partition from BSD and then install.

I believe the livecd should have everything you need on it to install gentoo networkless (not the stage tarballs, it seems). You will need to update of most of the stuff after install, but it's probably not a big deal. It may even have all that is needed to get the net working during install (though when you say ppp, that's probably dial-up).

There's a guide for networkless installation.
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2006.0/index.xml

cousin · Post by **cousin** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:30 am

Not sure why you would need to write or even read your BSD's partitions during the install. You could write your stage3 tarball in one of your ext2 partition from BSD and then install.

The problem is that there's no such thing as "disk label" in Linux. Linux assigns partitions letters in an incremental way. How can I be sure that /dev/hda6 that was previously an ext2 partition in a kernel with no UFS support doesn't refer any of my UFS partitions when support for it is compiled into the kernel ? I have a lot of distfiles that may be used in these partitions.[/quote]

runningwithscissors · Post by **runningwithscissors** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:06 am

cousin wrote:
Not sure why you would need to write or even read your BSD's partitions during the install. You could write your stage3 tarball in one of your ext2 partition from BSD and then install.
The problem is that there's no such thing as "disk label" in Linux. Linux assigns partitions letters in an incremental way. How can I be sure that /dev/hda6 that was previously an ext2 partition in a kernel with no UFS support doesn't refer any of my UFS partitions when support for it is compiled into the kernel ? I have a lot of distfiles that may be used in these partitions.

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What does UFS support have to do with identifying a partition? Surely you are not reading from it, and I don't think that the fdisk utility that comes with linux needs UFS support compiled into the kernel to identify a UFS partition.

You could simply write from BSD to the ext2 partition and read it from the linux live CD.

cousin · Post by **cousin** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:54 am

Is there an errata page on this Gentoo "installer" ?

First I had to pass "nox" to the bootloader because X was setup with an incorrect resolution that I had to fix with Ctrl + Alt + '-' and then going to Preferences. Messy. I went to the console path: reboot and then type "install". (The keymap wasn't correctly set either... I had to do "loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/..." myself)

Then I tried with this dialog thing and skipped the "save to xml" part because it would complain with "the setup program seems to have failed" otherwise.

Then I went to the Wizard Mode and discovered that going directly to the Menu was better. After trying with each item and putting an URI with "file:///..." with the path of the portage tarball, the setup program crashed. My concern for my filesystems was justified because the partition table for hdd got deleted. Luckily I had those sectors saved on paper and I had to manually rebuild it. In no way I'm gonna try to install it again on this hard disk and I don't know why the older manual method used on 2005.1 isn't supported/documented anymore.

htranou · Post by **htranou** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:05 am

cousin wrote: I don't know why the older manual method used on 2005.1 isn't supported/documented anymore.

It is. The handbook is still here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml . You can download the minimal CD if you want or you can do the old style install from X in gnome-terminal on the LiveCD.

I think the graphical installer is still beta, especially since the LiveCD is only available for x86.

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