Terminal on ur "desktop"

[Phr34K]

I am wondering if there is a way to get your terminal to open on your desktop ( not in its own window ).
I use fluxbox, and some friends of mine are telling me that they have seen that done before, but they don't remember where. Is this actually possible, and if so can you guide me in the right direction ??

Thanx in advance!

[Tyir]

I also have seen it before...i always thought it was just a transparent terminal with no window decorations...

I could be wrong though

[provicemo]

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Eterm -x --trans --shade=50 --buttonbar=0 --scrollbar=0 -f white

I spent a while this weekend looking for a terminal for gdesklets. Couldn't find one, so i settled with this. The only thing that bugs me about this Eterm is that is still shows up on my task list. I wish someone would make a terminal desklet

[Riftwing]

Besides using borderless terms, you could use root-tail for logs directly on the root window which has the effect you're looking for. However, it only works like tail and isn't an actual term.

[Phr34K]

Thanx for all the input! I'm currently using Aterm and that seems to be working out fine (except the borders). If I get some time I'll mess around with it and see what I can come up with. But for now, I'm gonna take a much needed break from everything. I just finished finals this week and I'm in serious need of some R&R.

[searcher]

I've set the windows key (Super_L) in fluxbox to remove all decoration, and when you put the aterm on the `desktop' layer it will look like it's absorbed into the rootwindow. Nice stuff, the new fluxbox . For added effect, set the aterm sticky, so it'll stay with you when you change desktops.

~searcher

[NaRF]

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Eterm -x --trans --shade=50 --buttonbar=0 --scrollbar=0 -f white

I spent a while this weekend looking for a terminal for gdesklets. Couldn't find one, so i settled with this. The only thing that bugs me about this Eterm is that is still shows up on my task list. I wish someone would make a terminal desklet

check out devil's pie. at least it works for xfce. i don't know how it behaves on machines running different wms.

http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers ... flav=xhtml

here's a screenshot of a person running devilspie

http://uug.eastern.edu/~andrewski/misc/snapshot3.png

good luck

[provicemo]

I've had no luck with a relatively basic .devilspie.xml

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE devilspie SYSTEM "devilspie.dtd">
<devilspie>
  <flurb name="eterm on all desktops">
    <matchers>
      <matcher name="DevilsPieMatcherWindowName">
        <property name="application_name" value="Eterm"/>
      </matcher>
    </matchers>
    <actions>
      <action name="DevilsPieActionHide">
        <property name="skip_tasklist" value="TRUE"/>
      </action>
    </actions>
  </flurb>
</devilspie>

Anybody have a working devils pie config?

[Riftwing]

I've set the windows key (Super_L) in fluxbox to remove all decoration, and when you put the aterm on the `desktop' layer it will look like it's absorbed into the rootwindow. Nice stuff, the new fluxbox . For added effect, set the aterm sticky, so it'll stay with you when you change desktops.

~searcher

I remember that you could do that with the old fluxbox too but becauses you're removing window borders, it makes all the other programs look terrible.

[jonasl]

I've had no luck with a relatively basic .devilspie.xml
Anybody have a working devils pie config?

Here you go:

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE devilspie SYSTEM "devilspie.dtd">
<devilspie>
<flurb name="XMMS: Skip pager and window list">
        <matchers>
                <matcher name="DevilsPieMatcherWindowName">
                        <property name="application_name" value="[Xx][Mm][Mm][Ss]"/>
                </matcher>
        </matchers>
        <actions>
                <action name="DevilsPieActionHide">
                        <property name="skip_pager" value="TRUE"/>
                        <property name="skip_tasklist" value="TRUE"/>
                </action>
                <action name="DevilsPieActionSetWorkspace">
                        <property name="pinned" value="TRUE"/>
                </action>
        </actions>
</flurb>
 
<flurb name="Gaim: Allways on top, pinned, skip pager and window list">
        <matchers>
                <matcher name="DevilsPieMatcherWindowName">
                        <property name="window_title" value="Buddy List"/>
                </matcher>
        </matchers>
        <actions>
                <action name="DevilsPieActionHide">
                        <property name="skip_pager" value="TRUE"/>
                        <property name="skip_tasklist" value="TRUE"/>
                </action>
                <action name="DevilsPieActionLayer">
                        <property name="above" value="TRUE"/>
                </action>
                <action name="DevilsPieActionSetWorkspace">
                        <property name="pinned" value="TRUE"/>
                </action>
        </actions>
</flurb>
</devilspie>

Not concerning Eterm, but this works for me!

Which WM are you using? Devilspie does not work with certain WM, but I don't know which. Can't find anything relevant at this moment either. (I use openbox)...

//Jonasl

[30726]

There's basically three things you have to do, and your WM should be able to handle all of them.

1. Make the *term the bottom layer.
2. Make it sticky.
3. Hide window decorations.

[provicemo]

Well, xmms works with devilspie, but I can't get it to work with any terminal.
<property name="application_name" value="Eterm"/> doesn't seem to have any effect.

[andrewski]

here's a screenshot of a person running devilspie

http://uug.eastern.edu/~andrewski/misc/snapshot3.png

It's really odd to find myself 'quoted' as an example of things working... heh. (That's my screenie. ) It's like some weird rite of passage with Linux....

As for a working devilspie.xml, here's what produced that screenshot:

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE devilspie SYSTEM "devilspie.dtd">

<!-- The root element is devilspie -->
<devilspie>

        <!-- 
        Hiding XMMS and Eterm from the taskbar.
        -->
        <flurb name="Hide XMMS from taskbar">
                <matchers>
                        <matcher name="DevilsPieMatcherWindowName">
                                <!-- XMMS needs the wildcard asterisk because it changes b
oth the "application name" and "window name" fields to the song you're playing -->
                                <property name="application name" value="XMMS*"/>
                        </matcher>
                </matchers>
                <actions>
                        <action name="DevilsPieActionHide">
                                <property name="skip_tasklist" value="TRUE"/>
                        </action>
                        <action name="DevilsPieActionSetWorkspace">
                                <property name="pinned" value="TRUE"/>
                        </action>
                </actions>
        </flurb>

        <flurb name="Hide Eterm from taskbar">
                <matchers>
                        <matcher name="DevilsPieMatcherWindowName">
                                <property name="application name" value="Eterm 0.9.2"/>
                        </matcher>
                </matchers>
                <actions>
                        <action name="DevilsPieActionHide">
                                <property name="skip_tasklist" value="TRUE"/>
                        </action>
                </actions>
        </flurb>
</devilspie>

It's not the most intuitive way of coding around, that's for sure... I had to email the author a handful of times because there's next to no documentation on it.

Then, to get the borderless and transparent, I use the following to launch Eterm:

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Eterm -g 90x20+475+14 -x -f honeydew2 --borderless --scrollbar=off --buttonbar=0 -c grey 89 xset --trans

There's some superfluous flags in there, but I frankly don't remember which are which.

Edit: I really don't understand why the BBCodes don't work for me, but it is annoying!

[searcher]

I remember that you could do that with the old fluxbox too but becauses you're removing window borders, it makes all the other programs look terrible.

That's why i've set it up to only remove the current border. In .fluxbox/keys just put the line:

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None Select :ToggleDecor

(note that i'm using xorg, and the keycode for the windows key returns the name `Select' for some odd reason).

Now start an aterm with the following options:

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aterm -fg white -bg black -tr -trsb -fn 7x14 -sh 60 -sl 10000 +sb

Select the window and press the windows key, this should remove the decor, leaving only the aterm.

And because i'm such a nice guy, here's a screenshot [247K].
~searcher

[cjc]

FVWM can quite easily remove a Window from the listing when you try to switch tasks.

[beastmaster]

Now start an aterm with the following options:

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aterm -fg white -bg black -tr -trsb -fn 7x14 -sh 60 -sl 10000 +sb

Select the window and press the windows key, this should remove the decor, leaving only the aterm.

Is there a way to have aterm hooked at a certain desktop spot, just like eterm -x, so it stays there forever ??
Eterm allows me to do that, but it's so bloated, and I want aterm to do it idea?

[newtman12]

how might I get eterm to not show up in the taskbar or ksmoothbar (i think they both rely on the same source to figure out which ones to show so fixing one will fix both i hope)?

[andrewski]

how might I get eterm to not show up in the taskbar or ksmoothbar (i think they both rely on the same source to figure out which ones to show so fixing one will fix both i hope)?

Check out devilspie, quoted above.