The cow thing is LAME

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Napalm Llama · Post by **Napalm Llama** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:10 pm

Hmm... What's that background that's reflected in the "g" logo?

dalek · Post by **dalek** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:59 pm

Napalm Llama wrote:Hmm... What's that background that's reflected in the "g" logo?

Me wondered that to.

curtis119 · Post by **curtis119** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 5:04 pm

Napalm Llama wrote:Hmm... What's that background that's reflected in the "g" logo?

A gay porn I was watching, you want a copy?

rafo · Post by **rafo** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:44 pm

There is a Linux distro that exposes its mascot heavily: http://www.puppylinux.org/. There is a puppy on just about each and every one of their webpages.

Gentoo, on the other hand, is claimed to have a mascot, but it is exposed in only one place (correct?): http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml. The storybook style of presentation doesn't exactly harmonize with the otherwise crisp and to-the-point style of the Gentoo web, and many newcomers probably fail to notice that the cow is a mascot at all. Then again there are users and developers that have been around for a long time and find the mascot an absolutely essential thing. One may speculate about the future of the cow, here are a few directions that it could go

A. It will catch on, the storybook bit will somehow be put in a context so that newcomers see why it is cool, cute, Gentooish and essential heritage, and we will see the cow in lots of places. Later on the name Gentoo is dropped in favor of "Bos" (Bos primigenius: latin for cow). The metal "g" is re-cast as a metal "b". Legal hassle with Tucows taking lots of energy but considered worth the price. Bos Linux gradually becoming the preferred platform for all sorts of agriculture applications and services worldwide.

B. It will be moved to a Gentoo heritage/nostalgia page, allowing the "about" page to explain what Gentoo is about in a neutral style.

C. Neither; it will stay on the "about" page and that's it. "If the creators of a distro can afford to keep that childish stuff on the about-page then it must be really good to make up for it."

curtis119 · Post by **curtis119** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:16 pm

rafo wrote:There is a Linux distro that exposes its mascot heavily: http://www.puppylinux.org/. There is a puppy on just about each and every one of their webpages.

Gentoo, on the other hand, is claimed to have a mascot, but it is exposed in only one place (correct?): http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml. The storybook style of presentation doesn't exactly harmonize with the otherwise crisp and to-the-point style of the Gentoo web, and many newcomers probably fail to notice that the cow is a mascot at all. Then again there are users and developers that have been around for a long time and find the mascot an absolutely essential thing. One may speculate about the future of the cow, here are a few directions that it could go

A. It will catch on, the storybook bit will somehow be put in a context so that newcomers see why it is cool, cute, Gentooish and essential heritage, and we will see the cow in lots of places. Later on the name Gentoo is dropped in favor of "Bos" (Bos primigenius: latin for cow). The metal "g" is re-cast as a metal "b". Legal hassle with Tucows taking lots of energy but considered worth the price. Bos Linux gradually becoming the preferred platform for all sorts of agriculture applications and services worldwide.

B. It will be moved to a Gentoo heritage/nostalgia page, allowing the "about" page to explain what Gentoo is about in a neutral style.

C. Neither; it will stay on the "about" page and that's it. "If the creators of a distro can afford to keep that childish stuff on the about-page then it must be really good to make up for it."

I removed the stupid poster thingy on the about page but a handful of developers threw a hissy fit and someone else put it back up. I got a consensus to change it to text with a little Larry icon next it but I've lost interest for the moment. I'll get around to it eventually.

I initially wanted to get rid of the poster for the exact reasons you mentioned. It just doesn't fit in with the rest of the site and looks like a high school kid made it in his spare time.

Gentoobie penguin · Post by **Gentoobie penguin** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:17 am

How about a REAL gentoo pengiun?

complete with little baby ones!

Emperor penguin?

Look that one has a fur coat!

Look the older one but you could have a gentoo logo in there somwehre!

(Sorry i like pengiuns)

Chaosite · Post by **Chaosite** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:50 am

You must be new here.

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Kensai · Post by **Kensai** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:33 pm

Yeah I think a join date of 3 of July makes him appear his new, no?

pa4wdh · Post by **pa4wdh** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:36 pm

Untill i read this thread i didn't even knew gentoo had a mascott ... i thought that the output of emerge moo was nothing more than a joke

Ok, i have to admit, it also took me a while before i saw that the logo was a G. Maybe we should just see Larry more to get used to him

However ... i think larry is nice, but we can come up with something better than that.

One of the reasons that the Linux logo is a pengiun, is that it's good to have an animal as a logo instead of something abstract (like the infamous logo from redmond). The fun with animals is that they can "do" something. How many tux's have you seen ? I bet a lot, al doing something different (from holding rockets to writing etc.)

Someone suggested a ferret ... i don't like them too much, but they might make up a good mascott. And how about a lion ? The're fast, king of the animals (like gentoo is the king of distro's, en super-duper fast). Think about it ... a lion with a pengiun on his back for the Gentoo Linux combo

Rukie · Post by **Rukie** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:29 pm

Throughout history, anytime (mostly) a change in a mascot has been suggested, failure has come about when the actual change occurs. The mascot is part of WHO the company/team is. If you change that, well, thats like buying a delorian because the guy up the street said it was cool, even tho it may be crappy.

Larry the cow is a PART of Gentoo, and should NOT be changed, lest you be a fashion crazed teenage girl

Wonkey_Donkey · Post by **Wonkey_Donkey** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:00 pm

I can't believe all the anti-Larry talk on here!!!

Larry is part of the Gentoo family, and half of you sound like you wanna throw him on the muck heap, after all the hard work he has done.

Well if he is disowned as the Gentoo mascot, I shall *ADOPT* him before defecting to SuSE

He has to stay. Gentoo wouldn't be Gentoo without our Larry !

*changes domain name to 'Larry' and hostname to 'moo' in protest*

sugar · Post by **sugar** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:15 pm

If larry is got rid of, can I buy the rights to him and sell him on gentoo themed t shirts?

Fion · Post by **Fion** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:20 pm

If all you ricers want a "fast" one, I suggest a 'premature ejaculation' as the new mascot.

Heretics.

Massimo B. · Post by **Massimo B.** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:31 pm

I completey agree with the last posts. Now that the gentoo comunity has grown threads come up about the mascot and having a better mascot.
When gentoo has been for a small audience only, now one was wondering about their weird mascot, because it has fit to the weird linux behind.

Wonkey_Donkey · Post by **Wonkey_Donkey** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:34 pm

Larry *has* to stay !

Solidarity, br-udder......

BRPXQZME · Post by **BRPXQZME** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:15 am

Also, let's not forget that APT has "super cow powers" and and "apt-get moo" has comparable output to "emerge moo".

Kasumi_Ninja · Post by **Kasumi_Ninja** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:06 pm

Wonkey_Donkey wrote:I can't believe all the anti-Larry talk on here!!!

Larry is part of the Gentoo family, and half of you sound like you wanna throw him on the muck heap, after all the hard work he has done.

Well if he is disowned as the Gentoo mascot, I shall *ADOPT* him before defecting to SuSE

He has to stay. Gentoo wouldn't be Gentoo without our Larry !

*changes domain name to 'Larry' and hostname to 'moo' in protest*

Lol

legine · Post by **legine** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:12 am

IMHO Larry is hiding her true Identity from us.

I speculate that she is in truth a top 00 Agent from the LSS (Linux Secret Service)

She operates with the latest pieces of hard and software, uses, of course, Fancy stuff. And could disguise herself as almost anything.
Of course thats my conspiracy theory and thus nothing offical.

Well I can not think of anything better fitting to our Distro the Larry the Cow. No Mascot is more flexible and faster then our Larry. She even tricked a lot of Gentoo users to be dull and lame just in order that she can do her work behind the scenes.

So I ask honestly can anyone think of something more cool then Larry?

I vote for a special series of Larry at work in our Documentation with more Pics and Video Material. But who can catch Larry at work? I mean no one can possibly as good as a 00 Agent, can he?

Just my personal and honest opinion on Larry.

Legine

P.S.: Larry isnt transexual, it is just another perfect discuise from her.
P.P.S.: Larry should were a white Hat and a Agentsuit in future to underline my opinion. But thats only my whish.

legine · Post by **legine** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:05 pm

I need to add.

massctrl wrote:They don't understand the humor and think it's childish. I don't blame them they are risking their neck. Even customers don't understand the humor behind it. And hell you can't blame them either.
An operating system shouldn't be funny at all, it needs to leave a professional and serious first impression!
It gives the impression it's all a joke.

To me the page does not look more childish then Vista announcement pages and more alive then Oracles Internet presentaiton.

I think it is a good mix, with something to think about. You see managers should get the difference between a company and an voluntary comunity organisation, In which everyone should try to contribute a little.

But that is just my point of view.

again me

dragon1020 · Post by **dragon1020** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:10 pm

Don't be so serious. "Just for Fun", remember? Larry IS fun. :)

quag7 · Post by **quag7** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:45 pm

I think Larry should be dressed up like a rudeboy in a porkpie hat and wayfarers.

Of course, perhaps this has little to do with the Gentoo mascot and more to do with my lifelong desire to see a cow dressed up as a rudeboy.

Hey we all have our inner life. Don't make fun of mine.

Of course, the udders are disturbing. But maybe that's the point. One thing about Gentoo, it's the distro that lets it all hang out.

bluedevils · Post by **bluedevils** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:30 pm

If the distro is *really* good, it doesn't matter what the mascot is. Personally I think if you name a distro after a penguin, then it is benifical to have a penguin mascot. It would be easier for people to figure out the gentoo name and easier to associate the distro with linux (Tux's cousin?). The gentoo penguin can easily be drawn in a way as to differentiate it from tux and still be funny. BTW there are penguins still on the homepage.

I've also never liked the gentoo logo. I don't use gentoo because of the logo, but you might sell more shirts if it was different. I think I would be more incline to buy a shirt with larry the cow's face on it, than the "g".

curtis119 · Post by **curtis119** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:10 pm

bluedevils wrote:If the distro is *really* good, it doesn't matter what the mascot is. Personally I think if you name a distro after a penguin, then it is benifical to have a penguin mascot. It would be easier for people to figure out the gentoo name and easier to associate the distro with linux (Tux's cousin?). The gentoo penguin can easily be drawn in a way as to differentiate it from tux and still be funny. BTW there are penguins still on the homepage.

I've also never liked the gentoo logo. I don't use gentoo because of the logo, but you might sell more shirts if it was different. I think I would be more incline to buy a shirt with larry the cow's face on it, than the "g".

You don't use Gentoo because of the logo........?

sugar · Post by **sugar** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:37 pm

curtis119 wrote:
bluedevils wrote:If the distro is *really* good, it doesn't matter what the mascot is. Personally I think if you name a distro after a penguin, then it is benifical to have a penguin mascot. It would be easier for people to figure out the gentoo name and easier to associate the distro with linux (Tux's cousin?). The gentoo penguin can easily be drawn in a way as to differentiate it from tux and still be funny. BTW there are penguins still on the homepage.

I've also never liked the gentoo logo. I don't use gentoo because of the logo, but you might sell more shirts if it was different. I think I would be more incline to buy a shirt with larry the cow's face on it, than the "g".

You don't use Gentoo because of the logo........?

I didn't use gnome back in the day because of the name and the dumb logo! Its a foot!! lol

quag7 · Post by **quag7** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:50 pm

curtis119 wrote:
bluedevils wrote:If the distro is *really* good, it doesn't matter what the mascot is. Personally I think if you name a distro after a penguin, then it is benifical to have a penguin mascot. It would be easier for people to figure out the gentoo name and easier to associate the distro with linux (Tux's cousin?). The gentoo penguin can easily be drawn in a way as to differentiate it from tux and still be funny. BTW there are penguins still on the homepage.

I've also never liked the gentoo logo. I don't use gentoo because of the logo, but you might sell more shirts if it was different. I think I would be more incline to buy a shirt with larry the cow's face on it, than the "g".

You don't use Gentoo because of the logo........?

Heheheh, I think he meant, he uses Gentoo for reasons other than the logo