The Gentoo Big Forum Upgrade - Discussion

[Chiitoo]

Some additional thankses I should have mentioned before already:

A big thanks to antarus for what we did and learned from the latest try, and John R. Graham before that!

And on the stylish side, fedeliallalinea did the Gentoo 20XX theming, and might be working on the dark side as time allows for it!

The non-20XX light and dark ones are by me, based on JRG's work from before, and are supposed to represent the phpBB2 style we had.

We'll probably add more as time goes by.

[Ionen]

The non-20XX light and dark ones are by me, based on JRG's work from before, and are supposed to represent the phpBB2 style we had.

Nice, I've been using non-20XX Light myself so far. 20XX is fine too but I'm too used to the old style and that feels "right".

I wanted to use the dark one originally but, for the same reason, just too used to the old style so I'm not sure Might try it again later.

[Chiitoo]

The non-20XX light and dark ones are by me, based on JRG's work from before, and are supposed to represent the phpBB2 style we had.

Nice, I've been using non-20XX Light myself so far. 20XX is fine too but I'm too used to the old style and that feels "right".

I wanted to use the dark one originally but, for the same reason, just too used to the old style so I'm not sure Might try it again later.

That is very nice to read.

The dark mode has more colour issues than I remember. I feel like I didn't push some fixes some years ago or something, but yeah, fixing things soon and all that!

[gorg86]

Thanks for the upgrade

[spk201]

Thank you!

[RumpletonBongworth]

The first cells of each "topiclist" row - as formed by dt elements - do not vertically align their content, which is quite jarring. Please consider incorporating the following styles, if possible.

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ul.topiclist > li.row > dl.row-item, ul.topiclist > li.row > dl.row-item > dt {
	display: flex;
	align-items: center;
}

div.list-inner > .pagination {
	margin-bottom: 0;
}

[ian.au]

Well this is a nice surprise. I can only imagine the mount of work and hassle this was after all this time.

Thanks to all involved. Just reading through some of the responses here, it's maybe worth not that these are volunteers making the effort on our behalf. I appreciate those efforts.

[flysideways]

Thanks to all that made this happen.

Quick Links > Unread Posts , provides the functionality I like for catching up every few days, sometimes weeks when other things get in the way.

[skellr]

On another note, I wonder why transparency doesn't work in avatars anymore? Well, it works in the profile image and the top-right icon but not in the threads themselves where it's replaced by white. Then again given there is a frame thing around it probably wouldn't look right either way.

It looks like a "background" is placed behind the image making it look different in the posts.
From colours.css line 695:

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.postprofile .avatar img {
        background-color: white;
        border: 1px solid #d3d9de;
        box-shadow: 0 0 7px grey;
}

Removing the border and box-shadow seems to help, at least in 20XX.

[Chiitoo]

On another note, I wonder why transparency doesn't work in avatars anymore? Well, it works in the profile image and the top-right icon but not in the threads themselves where it's replaced by white. Then again given there is a frame thing around it probably wouldn't look right either way.

It looks like a "background" is placed behind the image making it look different in the posts.
From colours.css line 695:

Code: Select all

.postprofile .avatar img {
        background-color: white;
        border: 1px solid #d3d9de;
        box-shadow: 0 0 7px grey;
}

Removing the border and box-shadow seems to help, at least in 20XX.

Yeah that part should be commented out now.

[skellr]

Yeah that part should be commented out now.

That was fast. Thanks!

[Chiitoo]

Yeah that part should be commented out now.

That was fast. Thanks!

I did it quite a while ago so maybe some cache magic was happening...

[rab0171610]

FWIW, I use the Dark Reader extension (add-on) on Firefox. The extension is set to the default Dynamic setting. It gives the forums a dark mode setting and it looks great to me. There is also Filter, Filter+ and Static, which each change the color palette slightly. Personally I prefer Dynamic.
I just wanted to mention this in case it were to be of interest to anyone or is a solution they were interested in trying. It can be turned on and off on the fly.

[johngalt]

+1 for Dark Reader in Fx, though I actually prefer the output of Filter (default settings) over dynamic.

One thing noticeable with using DR is that the unread icons of forums (the red-colored icons) are much more visible than on the native Dark theme.

[halcon]

Thank you!

It's nice to see progress.

[dmpogo]

Huh, someone changed the decoration...

Is there an equivalent of "view all posts in the last 24 hours" (or something like that), that the old version of the forums had? There's "active topics", but it misses some threads with new posts.

Yep, "view all posts in the last 24 hours", "view posts from the last visit" and "view my posts" were the only formats I was ever reading.
I'd say I was only vaguely aware about different subforums, and certainly not for scanning them. I am the guy who keeps all emails in a single Inbox - chronological order is the only one I can remember

[dmpogo]

Thanks to all that made this happen.

Quick Links > Unread Posts , provides the functionality I like for catching up every few days, sometimes weeks when other things get in the way.

Help me, I don't seem to see where these Quick Links are ?

[halcon]

Help me, I don't seem to see where these Quick Links are ?

The left top corner. I didn't see it at the first moment either.

[Chiitoo]

It is a bit weird that the "last 24 hours" search is gone, but will see if we can get it back.

Will experiment with adding more forums to the "active topics" list.

[Blind_Sniper]

New forum looks terrible. It's so sad...

[Chiitoo]

New forum looks terrible. It's so sad...

Perhaps try the Gentoo Light style for the old feel if you haven't yet?

Would also be good to know what makes it sad so we could maybe make it more happy-like instead.

[seb95passionlinux]

Thank you for this change which gives a fresh look to this forum, good work, long life to you all.

[Chiitoo]

The first cells of each "topiclist" row - as formed by dt elements - do not vertically align their content, which is quite jarring. Please consider incorporating the following styles, if possible.

Code: Select all

ul.topiclist > li.row > dl.row-item, ul.topiclist > li.row > dl.row-item > dt {
	display: flex;
	align-items: center;
}

div.list-inner > .pagination {
	margin-bottom: 0;
}

I don't think I'm seeing the jarr, or I'm misunderstanding something.

Could you maybe provide a screenshot or further notes on what exactly you are seeing?

Also is this about the Gentoo 20XX style or more of them?

Will look into it more in any case, thanks!

[logrusx]

The icon indicating unread (posts in) threads for a forum is almost indistinguishable from the one that indicates no unread threads/posts. In all themes. When opening the forum the situation is a bit better for the unread threads.

Bold text worked better in the old forum software.

Best Regards,
Georgi

[Chiitoo]

The icon indicating unread (posts in) threads for a forum is almost indistinguishable from the one that indicates no unread threads/posts. In all themes. When opening the forum the situation is a bit better for the unread threads.

Bold text worked better in the old forum software.

Best Regards,
Georgi

Yeah the icons weren't really put much or any work into but it is on the todo-list for me at least.

Bold text added to the notes.

Thank you!