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acidrums4
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Re: The Gentoo Big Forum Upgrade - Discussion

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Post by acidrums4 » Thu Apr 02, 2026 3:10 pm

Just came from Planet Gentoo's RSS - missed the April 1's post.

I'd like to help with this if needed - have a fair experience with SVG and CSS (and some PHP) under my belly. Heard about a dark mode but can't see anything related about it - I can help with that a bit too.
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Post by grknight » Thu Apr 02, 2026 3:18 pm

acidrums4 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 3:10 pmHeard about a dark mode but can't see anything related about it - I can help with that a bit too.
Dark mode is set in a user's preferences as "My board style" setting "Gentoo dark"
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Post by GDH-gentoo » Thu Apr 02, 2026 3:23 pm

Huh, someone changed the decoration... :)

Is there an equivalent of "view all posts in the last 24 hours" (or something like that), that the old version of the forums had? There's "active topics", but it misses some threads with new posts.
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Post by grknight » Thu Apr 02, 2026 3:29 pm

GDH-gentoo wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 3:23 pmIs there an equivalent of "view all posts in the last 24 hours" (or something like that), that the old version of the forums had? There's "active topics", but it misses some threads with new posts.
This can be done per forum using the icon at the bottom to limit display by time, but I haven't yet discovered a way to do it over all forums.
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Post by grknight » Thu Apr 02, 2026 3:43 pm

I think it would be nice to add this extension: Separate Announcements and Stickies
It would make certain forums, like this one, easier to get to common topics
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Post by Ionen » Thu Apr 02, 2026 3:51 pm

GDH-gentoo wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 3:23 pm Huh, someone changed the decoration... :)

Is there an equivalent of "view all posts in the last 24 hours" (or something like that), that the old version of the forums had? There's "active topics", but it misses some threads with new posts.
I asked about it earlier but I do not think there is right now (Edit: personally I used to always visit search_id=last but that returns nothing now), active topics thing may(?) get improved as it currently only check specific forums it looks like.

For now I'm sticking to "new posts" (aka display new posts since last visit) which at least doesn't seem to miss anything.
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Post by Ionen » Thu Apr 02, 2026 3:57 pm

On another note, I wonder why transparency doesn't work in avatars anymore? Well, it works in the profile image and the top-right icon but not in the threads themselves where it's replaced by white. Then again given there is a frame thing around it probably wouldn't look right either way.

Also 7kB limit sure is small for 160x160 avatars (before it was 80x80 limit), esp. if want transparency to work which makes .jpg a non-option. Not that can't manage something using media-gfx/pngquant to reduce :) .. albeit it does hurt colours a bit to go from rgba~30kB to gif-style colourmap 7kB.
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Post by eccerr0r » Thu Apr 02, 2026 4:03 pm

I hope I remember this new low quality password that barely meets the requirements. Maybe I should have just reused the old password but repeat it a few times to meet the requirements...

Old habits die hard, a 20+ year old habit of using the same password on f.g.o ...
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Post by NeddySeagoon » Thu Apr 02, 2026 4:19 pm

eccerr0r,

This is the 3rd or 4th time you have complained about the password length and phpBB3 is not yet 24 hours old.
Move with the times.
If it were made shorter, you wouldn't know, so learn to live with it.
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Post by pun_guin » Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:11 pm

Short passwords aren’t automatically more insecure.
I already use the new Genthree.
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Post by Chiitoo » Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:17 pm

Ionen wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 3:57 pm On another note, I wonder why transparency doesn't work in avatars anymore? Well, it works in the profile image and the top-right icon but not in the threads themselves where it's replaced by white. Then again given there is a frame thing around it probably wouldn't look right either way.

Also 7kB limit sure is small for 160x160 avatars (before it was 80x80 limit), esp. if want transparency to work which makes .jpg a non-option. Not that can't manage something using media-gfx/pngquant to reduce :) .. albeit it does hurt colours a bit to go from rgba~30kB to gif-style colourmap 7kB.
That does seem odd with regards transparency! Will look.

Also I thought I did increase the kB limit... but maybe that was a different run of things.

Thanks for pointing it out!
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Post by pietinger » Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:19 pm

pun_guin wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:11 pm Short passwords aren’t automatically more insecure.
Wrong. It's described very accurately here: https://xkcd.com/936/
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pietinger --> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pieti ... _at_Gentoo
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Post by salahx » Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:21 pm

Wasn't there a board called "All things Open Source" before the upgrade? I don't see it on the new forums.
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Post by pietinger » Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:27 pm

salahx wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:21 pm Wasn't there a board called "All things Open Source" before the upgrade? I don't see it on the new forums.
It should be "Other Things Open Source" in "Discussion & Documentation". Do you have it?
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pietinger --> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pieti ... _at_Gentoo
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Post by pun_guin » Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:27 pm

pietinger wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:19 pm Wrong. It's described very accurately here: https://xkcd.com/936/
Entropy and length are very different things.
I already use the new Genthree.
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Post by Q-collective » Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:28 pm

Wow. Welcome to 2003 Gentoo Forums!

I'm sure we'll finally hit Discourse at around 2073.
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Post by salahx » Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:29 pm

pietinger wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:27 pm
salahx wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:21 pm Wasn't there a board called "All things Open Source" before the upgrade? I don't see it on the new forums.
It should be "Other Things Open Source" in "Discussion & Documentation". Do you have it?
It's there now. It wasn't a few minutes ago.
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Post by pun_guin » Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:36 pm

Q-collective wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:28 pm I'm sure we'll finally hit Discourse at around 2073.
Please don't. While Discourse is (arguably) still nicer to use on a smartphone, most Gentoo users probably use Gentoo on a device with a real keyboard and a real display, and Discourse just sucks on those.
I already use the new Genthree.
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Post by prettyflyfora- » Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:46 pm

Looks sleek, enjoying the new feel.
Happy to have the forums back!
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Post by johngalt » Thu Apr 02, 2026 7:25 pm

Coming back around to this, and as noted by @Chiitoo, the dark theme has a very weird function going on.
  • Gentoo LiveDVD (booted via USB)
  • Firefox (as provided with LiveDVD)
Everything seems to work OK, except hovering over links. They turn into a solid orange band (as if the entire link has been highlighted orange, but the fg and bg color are the same orange, so unreadable).

Other than that - Thank you, forum team, for all the hard work getting this updated.
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Post by Chiitoo » Thu Apr 02, 2026 7:26 pm

Ionen wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 3:57 pm On another note, I wonder why transparency doesn't work in avatars anymore? Well, it works in the profile image and the top-right icon but not in the threads themselves where it's replaced by white. Then again given there is a frame thing around it probably wouldn't look right either way.

Also 7kB limit sure is small for 160x160 avatars (before it was 80x80 limit), esp. if want transparency to work which makes .jpg a non-option. Not that can't manage something using media-gfx/pngquant to reduce :) .. albeit it does hurt colours a bit to go from rgba~30kB to gif-style colourmap 7kB.
These are tweaked now, not saying fixed yet. :]

In addition to a background-color, there was also a border and box-shadow which I removed for now.
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Post by SigHunter » Thu Apr 02, 2026 7:44 pm

finally the forums are useable with a phone! :)
well done and thanks to everyone involved
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Post by Ionen » Thu Apr 02, 2026 8:12 pm

Chiitoo wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 7:26 pm
Ionen wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 3:57 pm On another note, I wonder why transparency doesn't work in avatars anymore? Well, it works in the profile image and the top-right icon but not in the threads themselves where it's replaced by white. Then again given there is a frame thing around it probably wouldn't look right either way.

Also 7kB limit sure is small for 160x160 avatars (before it was 80x80 limit), esp. if want transparency to work which makes .jpg a non-option. Not that can't manage something using media-gfx/pngquant to reduce :) .. albeit it does hurt colours a bit to go from rgba~30kB to gif-style colourmap 7kB.
These are tweaked now, not saying fixed yet. :]

In addition to a background-color, there was also a border and box-shadow which I removed for now.
Nice, transparency does work for me now (had to clear cache for the change to take place ftr)..

Code: Select all

Maximum dimensions; width: 1280 pixels, height: 720 pixels, file size: 1231.00 KiB
wrt sizes, maybe the new defaults are a bit much? 160x160 was fine if it's what it's displayed as (16:9 limits feel confusing too, it's really a square), it's just the 7kB that felt bit small (maybe 30-50kB or so would be nice while still not being too big). Doesn't seem like they get converted and potentially loading several 1MB avatars on a page doesn't sound nice even in the age of modern internet.
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Post by Chiitoo » Thu Apr 02, 2026 8:18 pm

SigHunter wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 7:44 pm finally the forums are usable with a phone! :)
well done and thanks to everyone involved
Good to know!

Yer welcome!
Ionen wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 8:12 pm
Chiitoo wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 7:26 pm
Ionen wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 3:57 pm On another note, I wonder why transparency doesn't work in avatars anymore? Well, it works in the profile image and the top-right icon but not in the threads themselves where it's replaced by white. Then again given there is a frame thing around it probably wouldn't look right either way.

Also 7kB limit sure is small for 160x160 avatars (before it was 80x80 limit), esp. if want transparency to work which makes .jpg a non-option. Not that can't manage something using media-gfx/pngquant to reduce :) .. albeit it does hurt colours a bit to go from rgba~30kB to gif-style colourmap 7kB.
These are tweaked now, not saying fixed yet. :]

In addition to a background-color, there was also a border and box-shadow which I removed for now.
Nice, transparency does work for me now (had to clear cache for the change to take place ftr)..

Code: Select all

Maximum dimensions; width: 1280 pixels, height: 720 pixels, file size: 1231.00 KiB
wrt sizes, maybe the new defaults are a bit much? 160x160 was fine if it's what it's displayed as (16:9 limits feel confusing too, it's really a square), it's just the 7kB that felt bit small (maybe 30-50kB or so would be nice while still not being too big). Doesn't seem like they get converted and potentially loading several 1MB avatars on a page doesn't sound nice even in the age of modern internet.
Nice and yeah, just playing around with them a bit, will probably go down to those levels or so.

While there is a maximum in posts and such, that is seen, the profile page has different maximums. :]

(Check mine for example right now.)
Kindest of regardses.
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Post by Ionen » Thu Apr 02, 2026 8:21 pm

Chiitoo wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 8:18 pmNice and yeah, just playing around with them a bit, will probably go down to those levels or so.

While there is a maximum in posts and such, that is seen, the profile page has different maximums. :]

(Check mine for example right now.)
Oh yeah.. huge :)

Guess it doesn't really do anything there, thus why transparency worked in the first place.
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