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Boot hangs - sort of [SOLVED]

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Post by bluenuht » Sat Feb 28, 2026 11:07 am

The boot process stops after showing a green star next to Logical Volume Manager

But if I blindly ALT+F4 enter my user credentials and run

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startx
I get my normal GUI

I do not use LVM so I deleted /etc/runlevels/boot/lvm and all that changes is it stops on the completion of checking local filesystems (green star)

qlop hints towards either nvidia drivers or GRUB
https://bpa.st/OFCA

If I run the kernel with

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pci=noacpi
then I get the complete boot process and the tty login, but then startx fails

Currently I am running the kernel with

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pcie_aspm=off video=efifb:reprobes vga=current console=tty1
but still have to do my blind login

dmesg doesn't have anything I can latch on to
https://bpa.st/JZMA

About three weeks before this I had updated the kernel to 6.12.58 and had had multiple boots without issue.

Since exploring the issue I have also updated my motherboard firmware to the latest. In theory the issue was rebar and memory allocation, but I have toggled the hell out of those options and kernel parameters.

Any ideas where I should look next?
Last edited by bluenuht on Wed Mar 11, 2026 5:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post by NeddySeagoon » Sat Feb 28, 2026 11:28 am

bluenuht,

Please put your kernel .config file onto a pastebin, or tell us which binary kernel you use.
It sounds like you are missing a framebuffer console driver.
I thinkeit goes wrong here

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[Sat Feb 28 09:38:08 2026] [drm] Initialized nvidia-drm 0.0.0 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0
[Sat Feb 28 09:38:08 2026] Console: switching to colour dummy device 80x25
[Sat Feb 28 09:38:08 2026] nvidia 0000:01:00.0: vgaarb: deactivate vga console
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Post by bluenuht » Thu Mar 05, 2026 10:03 pm

sorry for the delay, I got stuck with net-libs/webkit-gtk slot conflicts that took 8-10 hours per build.

.config
https://pastebin.com/bSgu2tZh

The only thing I added since the issue started was

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CONFIG_FB_SIMPLE=y
and that made no difference

my usual grub boot line is

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BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-6.12.58-gentoo root=PARTUUID=21d71659-6646-467b-826d-27450fca2289 ro pcie_aspm=off
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Post by pietinger » Fri Mar 06, 2026 12:24 am

bluenuht,

You have configured your graphics driver as built-in:

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CONFIG_DRM_I915=y
... but you have an i5-9400F ... F means no integrated GPU

At the moment 6.18 is the current Gentoo stable kernel ...

Maybe have a look into:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pieti ... figuration

and here a an old link to 6.12:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pieti ... rsion_6.12

but I suggest to install and use 6.18 ->
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pieti ... rsion_6.18

What happens if you remove all the kernel command line parameters (except of course: root=PARTUUID=21d71659-6646-467b-826d-27450fca2289 ro)?


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[Sat Feb 28 09:38:04 2026] smpboot: CPU0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz (family: 0x6, model: 0x9e, stepping: 0xa)
# CONFIG_X86_INTEL_LPSS is not set
# CONFIG_MFD_INTEL_LPSS_ACPI is not set
# CONFIG_MFD_INTEL_LPSS_PCI is not set
# CONFIG_INTEL_IOMMU_DEFAULT_ON is not set
# CONFIG_IRQ_REMAP is not set
CONFIG_USB_PCI_AMD=y
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Post by NeddySeagoon » Fri Mar 06, 2026 11:56 am

bluenuht,

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CONFIG_FB_SIMPLE=y
is so simple that the kernel cannot configure it. The kernel needs to be passed a ready to use framebuffer by the boot loader. I'm fairly sure that it won't help though.
You have a working console until the nvidia driver loads. Then kernel that switches away from the working console driver to a broken one, so your console stops updating.

pietinger hinted at some LPSS knobs you probably need in your kernel.
Can you share

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lspci -nnk
output please?

-nn provides the Vendor and Device IDs, which should be an unambiguous pointers to your devices.
The -k tells about the kernel modules loaded for the devices, if any.

I suspect you will need something in one or both of

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# CONFIG_PINCTRL is not set
# CONFIG_GPIOLIB is not set
of these menus.
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Post by pietinger » Fri Mar 06, 2026 1:00 pm

NeddySeagoon wrote:[...]
I suspect you will need something in one or both of

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# CONFIG_PINCTRL is not set
# CONFIG_GPIOLIB is not set
of these menus.
Neddy,

no ... these can not cause such a problem ... my guess is a missing CONFIG_X86_X2APIC=y

(we had already here: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1174380.html )

... and he does not have it (and does not see this option) because there is this dependency:

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Depends on: X86_LOCAL_APIC [=y] && X86_64 [=y] && (IRQ_REMAP [=y] || HYPERVISOR_GUEST [=n])
... so it is necessary to enable IRQ_REMAP to get it ... or ... changeover to 6.18

(X86_X2APIC is NOT enabled by default in 6.12; it is enabled by default in 6.18; this was the reason I gave him the links)
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Post by bluenuht » Wed Mar 11, 2026 6:03 pm

Bottom line is that building 6.18.12 has fixed this issue. Thanks !

But 6.18.12 wasn't available at the end of January, only 6.12.58

So I would be really interested if anyone has any ideas how I could have
1. built the kernel (6.12.58) and had multiple weeks of "good" boots
2. an emerge -avDNut world would then cause this issue
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Post by acmondor » Thu Apr 02, 2026 6:05 pm

Just wanted to report I just experience a similar issue and what I did to resolve it in case anyone else runs into the same thing.

The machine in question was running 6.12.58 for a while without any issues. Then after updating the machine for the first time since the end of January and rebooting it the last message shown on the screen was from grub saying it was booting 6.12.58.

I confirmed the boot actually completed ok by logging into the machine with ssh and checked the contents of rc.log, kern.log, and other log files. All the log files looked normal. This machine is a server and it doesn't have X or Wayland installed, so screen is used rarely but still important just the same.

At this point I decided to update the kernel to 6.18.18 to see if that would resolve the issue. It did not. When I rebooted to 6.18.18 the same thing happened, the last message shown on the screen was from grub saying it was booting 6.18.18. I tried power cycling the machine in case something was had not coming up cleanly, but that didn't change anything.

Comparing this machine to others that work fine and I noticed it had the following extra CONFIG_FB kernel settings:

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CONFIG_FB_EFI=y
CONFIG_FB_TILEBLITTING=y
I have no idea why those were there, especially the first since that is for UEFI and this old machine does not have that capability. Gentoo was installed on the machine about 9 years ago, so those settings likely date back that far.

When I removed the above settings everything returned to normal.

The question now is why had those settings worked for a while without any issue and then suddenly stop working?

Well, one of the recent updates was sys-boot/grub going from 2.12-r11 to 2.14-r3, so my guess is that something changed in grub to alter the behaviour relating to these settings, especially CONFIG_FB_EFI.
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Post by pietinger » Thu Apr 02, 2026 7:07 pm

acmondor wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 6:05 pm [...] Well, one of the recent updates was sys-boot/grub going from 2.12-r11 to 2.14-r3, so my guess is that something changed in grub to alter the behaviour relating to these settings, especially CONFIG_FB_EFI.
No. Grub and your kernel configuration are completely different things (== grub has NO effect to your kernel configuration).

I would like to ask how you took over your kernel settings from 6.12 to 6.18? Did you make a "make oldconfig" ... or maybe a "make olddefconfig"? I guess it was a "make olddefconfig" ... and this is not a very good solution because you miss some questions about new options ... (because the defaults are sometimes really bad) ... maybe read more here:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pieti ... fig.22_.3F
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Post by acmondor » Thu Apr 02, 2026 9:04 pm

Sorry, I probably didn't words things right w.r.t. grub and the kernel. I know they are completely separate and unrelated in terms of config. What I was trying to say was at runtime (ie during boot) grub may have changed how it left things when it transitioned to the kernel and that may have impacted how the kernel handled (or failed to) the screen and output there. Hope that makes more sense.

Also, in case what I said earlier wasn't clear. When things went from working (ie booting with normal output sent to the screen by the kernel) to not working (ie no ouput after switching to the kernel) there we was no change to the kernel itself. Everything on the machine was brought up to date except the kernel. The upgrade to the 6.18 came after the problem presented itself.

I always run 'make oldconfig' when upgrading my kernels.
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Post by NeddySeagoon » Fri Apr 03, 2026 3:31 pm

acmondor,

Grub can influence kernel console output.
Most users use VESA_FB (for BIOS booting) or EFI_FB for (EFI booting).

However, there is also SIMPLE_FB. That's so simple that the kernel cannot configure it. It only draws in a preconfigured framebuffer.
That means the boot loader (grub possibly) has to leave the kernel a configured framebuffer.
There is a grub option

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GRAPHICS_MODE="keep"
for this. I'm not sure of the exact name. I don't use grub.

There are all sorts of traps for the unwary in the DRM drivers, especially with firmware built into the kernel binary.
The new kernel needs a new firmware file ... you didn't know so didn't provide it. Your DRM console is now broken with the new kernel.
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Post by sublogic » Fri Apr 03, 2026 10:28 pm

NeddySeagoon wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2026 3:31 pmred framebuffer.
There is a grub option

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GRAPHICS_MODE="keep"
for this. I'm not sure of the exact name. I don't use grub.

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GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep
This goes in /etc/default/grub. acmondor may also have to set GRUB_GFXMODE. (I don't, and it works fine.)
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Post by NeddySeagoon » Sat Apr 04, 2026 12:01 pm

sublogic,

Thank you.
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Post by acmondor » Mon Apr 06, 2026 8:38 pm

The suggestion regarding GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX got me to investigate the issue a bit further.

In the file /etc/grub.d/10_linux there is this bit of code:

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      if grep -qx "CONFIG_FB_EFI=y" "${config}" 2> /dev/null \
          && grep -qx "CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING=y" "${config}" 2> /dev/null; then
          echo "        set gfxpayload=keep" | sed "s/^/$submenu_indentation/"
      fi
That code is run for each kernel found in /boot when one installs a kernel or runs "grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg". And, if a kernel's config has CONFIG_FB_EFI and CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING it adds "set gfxpayload=keep" to the grub settings (menu entry) for that kernel.

I looked at my /boot/grub/grub.cfg and yes, the kernels that don't display any output during boot have "set gfxpayload=keep". That file also has "set gfxmode=auto", but that's on a global scale and used for all kernels:

When I comment out the "set gfxpayload=keep" lines those kernels start working normally again producing output properly during boot. I verfied this with 6.12 and 6.18 kernels.

Those lines from /etc/grub.d/10_linux above are from the patch file /usr/portage/sys-boot/grub/files/gfxpayload.patch. Comments in that file indicate the patch is specific to EFI:

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  Subject: [PATCH] 10_linux: Default gfxpayload=keep only when booting using efi
Yet the grub ebuild includes that patch unconditionally and, as far as I can tell, it always has since it was introduce with grub 2.02_beta3 by commit fa02d3700e674800a25426dff1ee832ace2dfc72 back in Mar 2016.

As I mentioned ealier, rebuilding my kernel without CONFIG_FB_EFI solved the issue for me, and the above partially explains why. To try and understand the full story I dug into the grub code to see what changed between sys-boot/grub 2.12-r11 and 2.14-r3 in terms of that gfxpayload=keep setting, but I could not see anything obvious. It's clear though that something has change. I found an old stash of saved kernel config files for my problem machine and the CONFIG_FB_EFI and CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING kernel settings were used since at least 2014 with the 3.12.13 kernel, yet that only became a problem with sys-boot/grub 2.14-r3.

For completeness, here's the important bits from emerge --info sys-boot/grub for my build:

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USE="device-mapper fonts nls sdl themes truetype -branding -doc -efiemu -libzfs -mount -protect -secureboot (-test) -verify-sig" ABI_X86="(64)" GRUB_PLATFORMS="pc -coreboot -efi-32 -efi-64 -emu -ieee1275 (-loongson) -multiboot -qemu (-qemu-mips) -uboot -xen -xen-32 -xen-pvh"
Also, here's the _FB and _VT config settings used my kernel:

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CONFIG_DRM_CLIENT_DEFAULT_FBDEV=y
CONFIG_DRM_FBDEV_EMULATION=y
CONFIG_DRM_FBDEV_OVERALLOC=100
CONFIG_FB=y
CONFIG_FB_CFB_COPYAREA=y
CONFIG_FB_CFB_FILLRECT=y
CONFIG_FB_CFB_IMAGEBLIT=y
CONFIG_FB_CORE=y
CONFIG_FB_DEVICE=y
CONFIG_FB_IOMEM_FOPS=y
CONFIG_FB_IOMEM_HELPERS=y
CONFIG_FB_MODE_HELPERS=y
CONFIG_FB_NOTIFY=y
CONFIG_VT=y
CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING=y
I did not explore VESA_FB or SIMPLE_FB because just removing CONFIG_FB_EFI worked and I didn't have time to rebuild the kernel with those other settings.

Long story short, the issue is clearly related to a mismatch between the grub and kernel settings, which is agrivated by the fact that the ebuild for grub is including that bit of EFI code in /etc/grub.d/10_linux for non-EFI builds of grub.
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Post by sublogic » Tue Apr 07, 2026 12:32 am

acmondor wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 8:38 pm The suggestion regarding GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX got me to investigate the issue a bit further.

In the file /etc/grub.d/10_linux there is this bit of code:

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      if grep -qx "CONFIG_FB_EFI=y" "${config}" 2> /dev/null \
          && grep -qx "CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING=y" "${config}" 2> /dev/null; then
          echo "        set gfxpayload=keep" | sed "s/^/$submenu_indentation/"
      fi
That code is run for each kernel found in /boot when one installs a kernel or runs "grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg". And, if a kernel's config has CONFIG_FB_EFI and CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING it adds "set gfxpayload=keep" to the grub settings (menu entry) for that kernel.
But that code is conditional on GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX being unset. You could try setting GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text in /etc/default/grub and see if that helps.
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Post by floppymaster » Tue Apr 07, 2026 1:02 am

acmondor wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 8:38 pm The suggestion regarding GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX got me to investigate the issue a bit further.

In the file /etc/grub.d/10_linux there is this bit of code:

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      if grep -qx "CONFIG_FB_EFI=y" "${config}" 2> /dev/null \
          && grep -qx "CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING=y" "${config}" 2> /dev/null; then
          echo "        set gfxpayload=keep" | sed "s/^/$submenu_indentation/"
      fi
That code is run for each kernel found in /boot when one installs a kernel or runs "grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg". And, if a kernel's config has CONFIG_FB_EFI and CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING it adds "set gfxpayload=keep" to the grub settings (menu entry) for that kernel.

I looked at my /boot/grub/grub.cfg and yes, the kernels that don't display any output during boot have "set gfxpayload=keep". That file also has "set gfxmode=auto", but that's on a global scale and used for all kernels:

When I comment out the "set gfxpayload=keep" lines those kernels start working normally again producing output properly during boot. I verfied this with 6.12 and 6.18 kernels.

Those lines from /etc/grub.d/10_linux above are from the patch file /usr/portage/sys-boot/grub/files/gfxpayload.patch.
No, those lines come from upstream. gfxpayload.patch alters them, but it does not get applied in grub-2.14 (only grub-2.12).

Is your system booting in native UEFI mode, or in legacy BIOS compatibility mode? You can check this by looking for the following directory: /sys/firmware/efi. If that directory does not exist or is empty, you are likely booting in legacy BIOS mode.

Assuming you are in fact booting in legacy BIOS mode, it is possible that the missing gfxpayload.patch is actually triggering this display issue for you; the patch is meant to disable to disable the gfxpayload=keep behavior when GRUB is not in EFI mode.

If that is indeed the issue here, I can work to get that gfxpayload.path change submitted upstream.
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Post by acmondor » Tue Apr 07, 2026 5:00 pm

floppymaster wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2026 1:02 am
No, those lines come from upstream. gfxpayload.patch alters them, but it does not get applied in grub-2.14 (only grub-2.12).

Is your system booting in native UEFI mode, or in legacy BIOS compatibility mode? You can check this by looking for the following directory: /sys/firmware/efi. If that directory does not exist or is empty, you are likely booting in legacy BIOS mode.

Assuming you are in fact booting in legacy BIOS mode, it is possible that the missing gfxpayload.patch is actually triggering this display issue for you; the patch is meant to disable to disable the gfxpayload=keep behavior when GRUB is not in EFI mode.

If that is indeed the issue here, I can work to get that gfxpayload.path change submitted upstream.
floppymaster,

Thank you. You helped me realize a couple mistakes I made in my investigation and filled in the last piece of the puzzle.

First, to answer your question, the system is booting in legacy BIOS mode. Actually, the system is so old it has no UEFI capability at all.

When I checked to see if gfxpayload.patch was used in grub-2.14, I see now that I was actually looking at an old git repo containing grub-2.14_rc1-r1.ebuild and grub-2.14_rc1-r3.ebuild which did have that patch. My mistake. I see now that gfxpayload.patch was not included when grub-2.14.ebuild was released.

When I was looking for difference between grub-2.12 and grub-2.14 I overlooked the changes in /etc/grub.d/10_linux and missed the important job that patch did for my configuration.

I now understand why my old kernel with CONFIG_FB_EFI worked with grub-2.12 and earlier. The gfxpayload.patch added the extra check for $grub_platform = efi before setting gfxpayload=keep, so it never actually got set. When grub-2.14 dropped that patch, gfxpayload=keep got set and that does not work with the rest of my grub and/or kernel configs.

Removing CONFIG_FB_EFI from my kernel config prevents gfxpayload=keep from being set, but also makes a sense since that kernel will never run on a UEFI capable machine. That config setting should not have been used in the first place, so its the right thing to do. I have several other systems that also boot in legacy BIOS mode and none of their kernels have CONFIG_FB_EFI.

By the way, the machine in question was the second one I switched to gentoo about 13 years ago. Once I got it to boot, I likely never looked at some of the config settings again, like CONFIG_FB_EFI, until now!

I don't think this issue needs to be pursued any further.
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Post by floppymaster » Tue Apr 07, 2026 6:14 pm

Just to close the loop here: gfxpayload.patch got merged upstream earlier today, and I backported the change to grub-2.14.

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/gnu-grub ... equests/98

https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/commit ... c6fd7f86cf
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