Sound not working with pulseaudio 16.x

[LinusTorvalds1]

I upgraded to pulseaudio 16.0 a few months ago, and my sound (TV speakers via HDMI or headphones) no longer work. So I downgraded back to 15.x and masked >=16.0.

But in the last few weeks, I've been getting a message about blocked packages when I `emerge -avNuD @world`, so I thought I'd give it another try. My sound still does not work with pulseuadio 16.1. I also upgraded the alsa config files.

I use firefox-bin and spotify to test sound. `alsamixer` confirms that my speaker and headphones are not muted.

Please help!

[LinusTorvalds1]

Shoot... now I can't even downgrade. Adding back ">=media-sound/pulseaudio-16.0" and running `emerge -av pulseaudio` complains about all ebuilds being masked. Looks like I'm stuck with no sounds until this is fixed.

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$ aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC269VC Analog [ALC269VC Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 1: ALC269VC Digital [ALC269VC Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [T27B350]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

but...

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$ pacmd list-cards 
0 card(s) available.

Is this the issue? If so, how do resolve this? Thanks

[LinusTorvalds1]

Bump. Any leads on how I could debug this?

I might have to give up Gentoo if I can't get this to work

[jburns]

Was media-sound/pulseaudio built with the daemon USE flag?
Is the daemon running?

[LinusTorvalds1]

Was media-sound/pulseaudio built with the daemon USE flag?

Yes:

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[ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation]
[        : I - package is installed with flag     ]
[ Colors : set, unset                             ]
 * Found these USE flags for media-sound/pulseaudio-16.1:
 U I
 - - abi_x86_32    : 32-bit (x86) libraries
 - - bluetooth     : Enable Bluetooth Support
 + + daemon        : Build the pulseaudio binary (not-needed for pipewire-pulse) 
 - - glib          : Add support to dev-libs/glib-based mainloop for the libpulse client
                     library, to allow using libpulse on glib-based programs. Build the
                     GSettings PA module. 
 - - jack          : Add support for the JACK Audio Connection Kit
 - - ofono-headset : Build with oFono HFP backend for bluez 5, requires net-misc/ofono.

Is the daemon running?

Unsure, how do I check?

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$ ps aux | grep pulse
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog

Also,

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$ /etc/init.d/alsasound status
* status: stopped

$ /etc/init.d/alsasound start

$ /etc/init.d/alsasound status
* status: started

Still doesn't work

[jburns]

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PulseAudio may help.

To check

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/etc/init.d/pulseaudio status

To enable as root do

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rc-update add pulseaudio default
rc-service pulseaudio start

[LinusTorvalds1]

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PulseAudio may help.

To check

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/etc/init.d/pulseaudio status

To enable as root do

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rc-update add pulseaudio default
rc-service pulseaudio start

I don't have any file like `/etc/init.d/pulse*`

[jburns]

Does viewtopic-p-8717558.html?sid=de417adb72 ... 2751fd9973

[LinusTorvalds1]

Does viewtopic-p-8717558.html?sid=de417adb72 ... 2751fd9973

I ran

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pulseaudio --kill
pulseaudio --start

No help.

I already tried reverting `autospawn = no` to `= yes` in /etc/pulse/client.conf (along with other 2 other file changes after upgrading to 16.1), and no help.

[jburns]

Are you using systemd?

[LinusTorvalds1]

Are you using systemd?

no, I'm using the default init system. I did not install systemd

[alecStewart1]

Hello friend,

I've run into issues with audio on Linux before but with just pulseaudio is novel to me.

aplay -l seems to only show three devices. You can use speaker-test to try and see if any "pink noise" comes through any of those devices.

If pulse is acting up, it sucks, but I'd recommend try ALSA by itself first and see if you get any sound. You could also try using pipewire with pipewire-pulse. It doesn't solve your issue with pulseaudio, but it may solve you not having sound.

Was pulseaudio the only thing that updated recently, or did the kernel or firmware update as well?
If it wasn't just pulse, then the issue might not be with pulse or pulse by itself.

jburns recommended a few things to for pulse so I'd go through all of those and use speaker-test.

[LinusTorvalds1]

You can use speaker-test to try and see if any "pink noise" comes through any of those devices.

Hi. There is no sound coming through headphones or the monitor (HDMI) when I run speaker-test. Alsamixer confirms the sound isn't muted.

Was pulseaudio the only thing that updated recently, or did the kernel or firmware update as well?

Yes, I upgraded to pulseaudio 16.x in isolation. Downgrading to 15.x a few months ago brought back the sound, but I can no longer downgrade.

[alecStewart1]

Yes, I upgraded to pulseaudio 16.x in isolation. Downgrading to 15.x a few months ago brought back the sound, but I can no longer downgrade.

Hmm, that's weird. You're on 16.0 or 16.1? At least just glancing at the CHANGELOG there doesn't seem to be much that could be a breaking change. That being said, there could be another new version coming out soon.

It might be worth switching over to just ALSA by itself and see if you get any sound.

You could also try putting in an issue there, they probably have commands for you to run to paste into an issue. Again, neither doesn't solve your problem right away but you may find something interesting from doing either or both.

[LinusTorvalds1]

Hmm, that's weird. You're on 16.0 or 16.1? At least just glancing at the CHANGELOG there doesn't seem to be much that could be a breaking change. That being said, there could be another new version coming out soon.

I currently have 16.1, but 16.0 didn't work either. I upgraded from 15.x to 16.0 a few months ago, then immediately downgraded when it didn't work.

It might be worth switching over to just ALSA by itself and see if you get any sound.

I will try this soon.

[LinusTorvalds1]

Made some progress. Here's what I tested so far:

None of these worked:
1. Upgrade firefox-bin from 104.0.2 to 105.
2. Restart and run `pulseaudio --start` before starting X windows (I use i3, so before running `startx`).
3. Upgrade linux-firmware to 20220913-r2 and upgrade kernel from 5.15.59->5.15.68.
4. Remove the pulseaudio USE flag from firefox-bin and re-emerge. This leaves no USE flags on firefox-bin.

However, after doing the following, I have sound in my headphones, but not in my monitor's speakers:
5. Add the alsa USE flag to firefox-bin re-emerge. This also required media-sound/apulse, and I had to remove alsa-plugins which was blocking apulse.


So if I can get sound through my monitor's (HDMI) speakers, I'll be golden. Before, I use to run the following command (binded to a hotkey) to activate the monitor's speakers:

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pacmd set-card-profile 0 output:hdmi-stereo

But this does nothing. And as I mentioned earlier, pulseaudio is not able to detect any cards:

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$ pacmd list-cards 
0 card(s) available.

[LinusTorvalds1]

The following speaker tests work. Now how do I enable HDMI, either manually or when headphones are unplugged?

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$ speaker-test -c2 -D hw:0,0 
# plays sound through headphones

$ speaker-test -c2 -D hdmi:0,0
# plays sound through monitor

$ aplay -l

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC269VC Analog [ALC269VC Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 1: ALC269VC Digital [ALC269VC Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [T27B350]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

$ aplay -L

null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
default:CARD=PCH
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC269VC Analog
    Default Audio Device
sysdefault:CARD=PCH
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC269VC Analog
    Default Audio Device
front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC269VC Analog
    Front output / input
surround21:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC269VC Analog
    2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
surround40:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC269VC Analog
    4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC269VC Analog
    4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC269VC Analog
    5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC269VC Analog
    5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC269VC Analog
    7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC269VC Digital
    IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, T27B350
    HDMI Audio Output

[LinusTorvalds1]

I'm able to get sound HDMI by changing ~/.asoundrc as below. But I still don't know how I can switch back and forth between HDMI and headphones. If I edit the file, the application that's sending sound has to be restarted. I also have no idea what these settings mean:

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pcm.!default {
       type plug
       slave {
               pcm "hdmi:0,0"   # pcm "hw:0,0" for headphones and laptop speakers and headphones
       }
}

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defaults.pcm.card 0
defaults.pcm.device 2 # "defaults.pcm.device 0" for laptop speakers and headphones
defaults.ctl.card 0

If you want to use these settings, get the right values from `aplay -l`

[LinusTorvalds1]

I think it's time to cut my losses. If no one has any suggestions by this week, I think I have to change distros (ubuntu-server).

[CooSee]

I think it's time to cut my losses. If no one has any suggestions by this week, I think I have to change distros (ubuntu-server).

please don't go, i'll miss you

if your system works on other linux-systems then it'll work on gentoo too.

here are my configs, maybe it'll help somehow, i hope:

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eix -I pulse
[I] media-libs/libpulse
     Available versions:  16.0^t 16.1^t{xpak} [m]~16.1^t{xpak}[1] {X +asyncns dbus doc +glib gtk selinux systemd test valgrind ABI_MIPS="n32 n64 o32" ABI_S390="32 64" ABI_X86="32 64 x32"}
     Installed versions:  16.1^t{xpak}(18:07:45 30.07.2022)(X asyncns dbus glib -doc -gtk -selinux -systemd -test -valgrind ABI_MIPS="-n32 -n64 -o32" ABI_S390="-32 -64" ABI_X86="64 -32 -x32")
     Homepage:            https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/
     Description:         Libraries for PulseAudio clients

[I] media-sound/pulseaudio
     Available versions:  16.0 16.1{xpak} {bluetooth (+)daemon +glib jack ofono-headset ABI_MIPS="n32 n64 o32" ABI_S390="32 64" ABI_X86="32 64 x32"}
     Installed versions:  16.1{xpak}(18:08:11 30.07.2022)(daemon glib -bluetooth -jack -ofono-headset ABI_MIPS="-n32 -n64 -o32" ABI_S390="-32 -64" ABI_X86="64 -32 -x32")
     Homepage:            https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/
     Description:         A meta package for PulseAudio (networked sound server)

[I] media-sound/pulseaudio-daemon
     Available versions:  16.0-r1^t 16.1^t{xpak} {+X +alsa +alsa-plugin aptx +asyncns bluetooth dbus elogind equalizer fftw +gdbm +glib gstreamer gtk ipv6 jack ldac lirc ofono-headset +orc oss selinux sox ssl system-wide systemd tcpd test +udev valgrind +webrtc-aec zeroconf}
     Installed versions:  16.1^t{xpak}(18:08:03 30.07.2022)(X alsa alsa-plugin asyncns dbus elogind gdbm glib orc ssl udev webrtc-aec -aptx -bluetooth -equalizer -fftw -gstreamer -jack -ldac -lirc -ofono-headset -oss -selinux -sox -system-wide -systemd -tcpd -test -valgrind -zeroconf)
     Homepage:            https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/
     Description:         Daemon component of PulseAudio (networked sound server)

[1] "pg_overlay" /var/db/repos/pg_overlay

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/etc/init.d/alsasound status
 * status: stopped

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cat /etc/conf.d/alsasound
# RESTORE_ON_START:
# Do you want to restore your mixer settings?  If not, your cards will be
# muted.
# no - Do not restore state
# yes - Restore state

RESTORE_ON_START="yes"

# SAVE_ON_STOP:
# Do you want to save changes made to your mixer volumes when alsasound
# stops? 
# no - Do not save state
# yes - Save state

SAVE_ON_STOP="yes"

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cat /etc/pulse/client.conf
# This file is part of PulseAudio.
#
# PulseAudio is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
# it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License as published by
# the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
# (at your option) any later version.
#
# PulseAudio is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
# WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU
# General Public License for more details.
#
# You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public License
# along with PulseAudio; if not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.

## Configuration file for PulseAudio clients. See pulse-client.conf(5) for
## more information. Default values are commented out.  Use either ; or # for
## commenting.

; default-sink =
; default-source =
; default-server =
; default-dbus-server =

; autospawn = yes
; daemon-binary = /usr/bin/pulseaudio
; extra-arguments = --log-target=syslog

; cookie-file =

; enable-shm = yes
; shm-size-bytes = 0 # setting this 0 will use the system-default, usually 64 MiB

; auto-connect-localhost = no
; auto-connect-display = no

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pacmd list-cards
1 card(s) available.
    index: 0
	name: <alsa_card.usb-C-Media_Electronics_Inc._USB_Multimedia_Audio_Device-00>
	driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
	owner module: 6
	properties:
		alsa.card = "0"
		alsa.card_name = "USB Multimedia Audio Device"
		alsa.long_card_name = "C-Media Electronics Inc. USB Multimedia Audio Device at usb-0000:00:14.0-14, fu"
		alsa.driver_name = "snd_usb_audio"
		device.bus_path = "pci-0000:00:14.0-usb-0:14:1.0"
		sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-14/1-14:1.0/sound/card0"
		udev.id = "usb-C-Media_Electronics_Inc._USB_Multimedia_Audio_Device-00"
		device.bus = "usb"
		device.vendor.id = "0d8c"
		device.vendor.name = "C-Media Electronics, Inc."
		device.product.id = "0105"
		device.product.name = "CM108 Audio Controller"
		device.serial = "C-Media_Electronics_Inc._USB_Multimedia_Audio_Device"
		device.string = "0"
		device.description = "CM108 Audio Controller"
		module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
		device.icon_name = "audio-card-usb"
	profiles:
		input:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Input (priority 65, available: unknown)
		input:iec958-stereo: Digital Stereo (IEC958) Input (priority 55, available: unknown)
		output:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Output (priority 6500, available: unknown)
		output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Duplex (priority 6565, available: unknown)
		output:analog-stereo+input:iec958-stereo: Analog Stereo Output + Digital Stereo (IEC958) Input (priority 6555, available: unknown)
		output:iec958-stereo: Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output (priority 5500, available: unknown)
		output:iec958-stereo+input:analog-stereo: Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output + Analog Stereo Input (priority 5565, available: unknown)
		output:iec958-stereo+input:iec958-stereo: Digital Stereo Duplex (IEC958) (priority 5555, available: unknown)
		off: Off (priority 0, available: unknown)
	active profile: <output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo>
	sinks:
		alsa_output.usb-C-Media_Electronics_Inc._USB_Multimedia_Audio_Device-00.analog-stereo/#0: CM108 Audio Controller Analog Stereo
	sources:
		alsa_output.usb-C-Media_Electronics_Inc._USB_Multimedia_Audio_Device-00.analog-stereo.monitor/#0: Monitor of CM108 Audio Controller Analog Stereo
		alsa_input.usb-C-Media_Electronics_Inc._USB_Multimedia_Audio_Device-00.analog-stereo/#1: CM108 Audio Controller Analog Stereo
	ports:
		analog-input-mic: Microphone (priority 8700, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "audio-input-microphone"
		analog-input-linein: Line In (priority 8100, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				
		iec958-stereo-input: Digital Input (S/PDIF) (priority 0, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				
		analog-output-speaker: Speakers (priority 10000, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "audio-speakers"
		iec958-stereo-output: Digital Output (S/PDIF) (priority 0, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:

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rc-update show boot
               binfmt | boot
             bootmisc | boot
              elogind | boot
                 fsck | boot
             hostname | boot
              keymaps | boot
           localmount | boot
             loopback | boot
              modules | boot
                 mtab | boot
              osclock | boot
               procfs | boot
                 root | boot
         save-keymaps | boot
    save-termencoding | boot
              seedrng | boot
               sysctl | boot
 systemd-tmpfiles-setup | boot
         termencoding | boot
                  ufw | boot

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rc-update show default
              chronyd | default
               cronie | default
                 dbus | default
               dhcpcd | default
           lm_sensors | default
                local | default
            syslog-ng | default
             thermald | default
               tinydm | default

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rc-update show sysinit
              cgroups | sysinit
                devfs | sysinit
                dmesg | sysinit
    kmod-static-nodes | sysinit
                sysfs | sysinit
 systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev | sysinit
                 udev | sysinit
         udev-trigger | sysinit

in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf i have only flat-volumes = no set.

please try with latest kernel, e.g. 5.19.10 <<< have you tried with sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin ? and also try without ~/.asoundrc file - change settings via pavucontrol.

[LinusTorvalds1]

please don't go, i'll miss you

I don't want to go! No other distro has a community like Gentoo's, and nothing compares to portage, eix, equery etc.

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eix -I pulse
[I] media-libs/libpulse
     Available versions:  16.0^t 16.1^t{xpak} [m]~16.1^t{xpak}[1] {X +asyncns dbus doc +glib gtk selinux systemd test valgrind ABI_MIPS="n32 n64 o32" ABI_S390="32 64" ABI_X86="32 64 x32"}
     Installed versions:  16.1^t{xpak}(18:07:45 30.07.2022)(X asyncns dbus glib -doc -gtk -selinux -systemd -test -valgrind ABI_MIPS="-n32 -n64 -o32" ABI_S390="-32 -64" ABI_X86="64 -32 -x32")
     Homepage:            https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/
     Description:         Libraries for PulseAudio clients

[I] media-sound/pulseaudio
     Available versions:  16.0 16.1{xpak} {bluetooth (+)daemon +glib jack ofono-headset ABI_MIPS="n32 n64 o32" ABI_S390="32 64" ABI_X86="32 64 x32"}
     Installed versions:  16.1{xpak}(18:08:11 30.07.2022)(daemon glib -bluetooth -jack -ofono-headset ABI_MIPS="-n32 -n64 -o32" ABI_S390="-32 -64" ABI_X86="64 -32 -x32")
     Homepage:            https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/
     Description:         A meta package for PulseAudio (networked sound server)

[I] media-sound/pulseaudio-daemon
     Available versions:  16.0-r1^t 16.1^t{xpak} {+X +alsa +alsa-plugin aptx +asyncns bluetooth dbus elogind equalizer fftw +gdbm +glib gstreamer gtk ipv6 jack ldac lirc ofono-headset +orc oss selinux sox ssl system-wide systemd tcpd test +udev valgrind +webrtc-aec zeroconf}
     Installed versions:  16.1^t{xpak}(18:08:03 30.07.2022)(X alsa alsa-plugin asyncns dbus elogind gdbm glib orc ssl udev webrtc-aec -aptx -bluetooth -equalizer -fftw -gstreamer -jack -ldac -lirc -ofono-headset -oss -selinux -sox -system-wide -systemd -tcpd -test -valgrind -zeroconf)
     Homepage:            https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/
     Description:         Daemon component of PulseAudio (networked sound server)

[1] "pg_overlay" /var/db/repos/pg_overlay

1) I don't know what pg_overlay is
2) I have a [?] for media-libs/libpulse, even after reinstalling.
3) In addition, I have media-sound/apulse

Other than those diffs, we match.

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/etc/init.d/alsasound status
 * status: stopped

Agree

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cat /etc/conf.d/alsasound
# RESTORE_ON_START:
# Do you want to restore your mixer settings?  If not, your cards will be
# muted.
# no - Do not restore state
# yes - Restore state

RESTORE_ON_START="yes"

# SAVE_ON_STOP:
# Do you want to save changes made to your mixer volumes when alsasound
# stops? 
# no - Do not save state
# yes - Save state

SAVE_ON_STOP="yes"

Agree

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cat /etc/pulse/client.conf
# This file is part of PulseAudio.
#
# PulseAudio is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
# it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License as published by
# the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
# (at your option) any later version.
#
# PulseAudio is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
# WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU
# General Public License for more details.
#
# You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public License
# along with PulseAudio; if not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.

## Configuration file for PulseAudio clients. See pulse-client.conf(5) for
## more information. Default values are commented out.  Use either ; or # for
## commenting.

; default-sink =
; default-source =
; default-server =
; default-dbus-server =

; autospawn = yes
; daemon-binary = /usr/bin/pulseaudio
; extra-arguments = --log-target=syslog

; cookie-file =

; enable-shm = yes
; shm-size-bytes = 0 # setting this 0 will use the system-default, usually 64 MiB

; auto-connect-localhost = no
; auto-connect-display = no

Agree. I will try `autospawn = yes` (without leading ";") after I finish this post.

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pacmd list-cards
1 card(s) available.
...

I get: `No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon.`

in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf i have only flat-volumes = no set.

I will try this after I finish this post.

please try with latest kernel, e.g. 5.19.10 <<< have you tried with sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin ? and also try without ~/.asoundrc file - change settings via pavucontrol.

I will try 5.9.10 after this post. I use to never use asoundrc. I only use it now to get sound out of my monitors

[LinusTorvalds1]

None of the below worked. I didn't try kernel-bin, because I'm pretty sure the issue is with pulseaudio 16.x. which is when it broke.

I'm not seeing `pacmd list-cards` return anything ("No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon."). And if I run `pulseaudio --start`, and then `pacmd list-cards`, I get "0 card(s) available".

Anyway, thank you so much for trying to help!

Agree. I will try `autospawn = yes` (without leading ";") after I finish this post.

I will try this after I finish this post.

I will try 5.9.12 after this post.