What is the "Admin CD?"

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figueroa · Post by **figueroa** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:23 am

What is the Admin CD found on the main gentoo.org downloads page for amd64 and x86?
One screen down on this page just below the Minimal Install CD here: https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/

Post by **fedeliallalinea** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:20 am

See bug #352152

figueroa · Post by **figueroa** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:36 am

Yeah, thanks, I'd found that bug report. It's still a mystery. Somebody is keeping it up to date. Why?

Anon-E-moose · Post by **Anon-E-moose** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:35 am

I keep it around for my rescue cd. *shrugs*

Post by **pjp** » Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:48 am

figueroa wrote:Yeah, thanks, I'd found that bug report. It's still a mystery. Somebody is keeping it up to date. Why?

What is the mystery? Seems like a good idea to have an install method with a more capable environment from which to work. I haven't gotten around to making a replacement for the previously Gentoo based "rescue" CD, so I'm guessing the Admin CD would work instead.

figueroa · Post by **figueroa** » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:03 am

pjp wrote:
figueroa wrote:Yeah, thanks, I'd found that bug report. It's still a mystery. Somebody is keeping it up to date. Why?
What is the mystery? Seems like a good idea to have an install method with a more capable environment from which to work. I haven't gotten around to making a replacement for the previously Gentoo based "rescue" CD, so I'm guessing the Admin CD would work instead.

It's pretty lame to have a "more capable environment" with zero documentation regarding its capability or use. Why the secrecy? In my opinion, this just looks bad for Gentoo.

Just about any decent distribution's live-cd will make a lovely rescue environment, and some have been specifically cooked-up to serve that need. For example, here is an excellent one with some minimal but sufficient documentation. https://sourceforge.net/projects/mx-lin ... Workbench/

Post by **pjp** » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:24 am

I thought there was some mention of it having more tools installed, but I cannot find it. I agree that it ought to at least have a comparably minimum mention here as does the minimal CD.

I'm fine with live environments existing, but I don't use them. Primarily I don't want to have to download unnecessary (for me) gigabytes of GUI and then deal with a painfully slow environment for the 5 minutes I'm in that environment.

While looking for a description of the admin CD, I did notice a "live-GUI", though I'm only guessing that it is a new iteration of the old LiveDVD.

And now that I'm thinking about it, I may be incorrectly recalling that the Admin CD was originally an internal tool, so perhaps that could be why it never got any documentation. As an example, see also: Catalyst.

figueroa · Post by **figueroa** » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:40 am

Ouch -- that live-gui at 4.9 GB must have the kitchen sink included.

midnite · Post by **midnite** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:02 pm

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Bootable_media wrote:

Additional included packages can be seen in this diff:
http://ix.io/4CkS

ix.io is down. Please update. Thanks a lot.

In particular, I think ZFS is still not included in the minimal CD, it is only available in the Admin CD, isn't it? How about if the LiveGUI CD includes ZFS? I think we need a list of modules of each of them, so we can compare them.

Update: Sorry i overlooked. There is a nice list for LiveGUI ISO. It does not include ZFS.

mrbassie · Post by **mrbassie** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:05 pm

There's a systemrescuecd spin with zfs, it's arch based now last I looked but meh.

Post by **pjp** » Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:20 am

midnite wrote:ix.io is down. Please update. Thanks a lot.

The wiki is a community effort, so anyone can create a wiki account and update the information. Including the versions of each ISO would probably be helpful as well, although I'm guessing they don't change significantly.