GCC 4.5 testing

[Ormaaj]

-Wl,option
Pass option as an option to the linker. If option contains commas, it is split into multiple options at the commas. You can use this syntax to pass an argument to the option. For example, -Wl,-Map,output.map passes -Map output.map to the linker. When using the GNU linker,
you can also get the same effect with -Wl,-Map=output.map.

[12345moon12345]

I changed my CFLAGS by adding -ftree-vectorize -flto -floop-interchange -floop-strip-mine -floop-block
below are the resulting package sizes. (Last colum percentage increase or decrease)
about 200 packages didn't compile so they are propably 100%)
Interesting results!!!
varying between 1 and 414% ; average 95% !!
0 0 kde-base/kdeadmin-meta-4.5.0: 1 #DEL/0!
5752 459104 kde-base/krosspython-4.5.0: 1 1,25%
10985 86113 kde-base/activitymanager-4.5.0: 1 12,76%
121400 645136 kde-base/kioclient-4.5.0: 1 18,82%
472657 2460417 kde-base/kdepim-wizards-4.4.5: 1 19,21%
39832 144808 kde-base/kstart-4.5.0: 1 27,51%
36350 127054 kde-base/ksystraycmd-4.5.0: 1 28,61%
86669 291525 kde-base/sweeper-4.5.0: 1 29,73%
95872 302200 kde-base/kdialog-4.5.0: 1 31,72%
72501 198924 kde-base/kdebugdialog-4.5.0: 1 36,45%
148453 392853 kde-base/kscreensaver-4.5.0: 1 37,79%
1649147 4348283 kde-base/kdeartwork-kscreensaver-4.5.0: 1 37,93%
116852 296436 kde-base/mplayerthumbs-4.5.0: 1 39,42%
350096 782535 kde-base/ksnapshot-4.5.0: 1 44,74%
223630 492442 kde-base/ksquares-4.5.0: 1 45,41%
10320 22368 kde-base/kiconfinder-4.5.0: 1 46,14%
25213 53581 kde-base/knewstuff-4.5.0: 1 47,06%
203171 423889 kde-base/kteatime-4.5.0: 1 47,93%
263885 547501 kde-base/kblackbox-4.5.0: 1 48,20%
226300 469209 kde-base/kiriki-4.5.0: 1 48,23%
243823 500682 kde-base/kfind-4.5.0: 1 48,70%
118713 240554 kde-base/kcharselect-4.5.0: 1 49,35%
173802 345618 kde-base/ktux-4.5.0: 1 50,29%
170897 336799 kde-base/konsolekalendar-4.4.5: 1 50,74%
270992 521864 kde-base/kshisen-4.5.0: 1 51,93%
38978 74946 x11-apps/xmessage-1.0.3: 1 52,01%
260038 497946 kde-base/ksame-4.5.0: 1 52,22%
310612 594488 kde-base/bovo-4.5.0: 1 52,25%
150529 283543 kde-base/kruler-4.5.0: 1 53,09%
14560 27392 kde-base/ktraderclient-4.5.0: 1 53,15%
288437 542281 kde-base/kubrick-4.5.0: 1 53,19%
151283 279609 kde-base/kdesu-4.5.0: 1 54,11%
239852 443143 kde-base/ktimer-4.5.0: 1 54,13%
338574 617017 kde-base/kollision-4.5.0: 1 54,87%
300492 544838 kde-base/kjumpingcube-4.5.0: 1 55,15%
643970 1114927 kde-base/kdf-4.5.0: 1 57,76%
426341 732333 kde-base/drkonqi-4.5.0: 1 58,22%
195483 335637 kde-base/kabcclient-4.4.5: 1 58,24%
31413 53725 kde-base/kfile-4.5.0: 1 58,47%
357165 607652 kde-base/kspaceduel-4.5.0: 1 58,78%
295490 500154 kde-base/keditfiletype-4.5.0: 1 59,08%
499003 825595 kde-base/kuser-4.5.0: 1 60,44%
22920 36688 kde-base/kdebase-menu-4.5.0: 1 62,47%
478471 757426 kde-base/konquest-4.5.0: 1 63,17%
184342 290902 sys-auth/polkit-qt-0.96.1: 1 63,37%
19968 30848 kde-base/kcolorchooser-4.5.0: 1 64,73%
14512 22328 kde-base/kmimetypefinder-4.5.0: 1 64,99%
994240 1481011 kde-base/kalgebra-4.5.0: 1 67,13%
37448 55680 kde-base/kreadconfig-4.5.0: 1 67,26%
523840 776640 kde-base/ktron-4.5.0: 1 67,45%
249634 369537 kde-base/knetattach-4.5.0: 1 67,55%
51787 76595 kde-base/renamedlg-plugins-4.5.0: 1 67,61%
537139 785669 kde-base/bomber-4.5.0: 1 68,37%
1561144 2262523 kde-base/ktimetracker-4.4.5: 1 69,00%
833191 1204414 kde-base/kjots-4.4.5: 1 69,18%
712924 1022297 kde-base/kwallet-4.5.0: 1 69,74%
556349 797117 kde-base/kreversi-4.5.0: 1 69,80%
653473 928735 kde-base/kturtle-4.5.0: 1 70,36%
3091330 4381717 media-libs/vigra-1.6.0-r1: 1 70,55%
18712 26520 kde-base/kquitapp-4.5.0: 1 70,56%
27112 38240 kde-base/kdontchangethehostname-4.5.0: 1 70,90%
290905 409701 kde-base/kdepasswd-4.5.0: 1 71,00%
1128601 1588219 kde-base/blogilo-4.4.5: 1 71,06%
74816 104584 kde-base/kcminit-4.5.0: 1 71,54%
432564 587081 kde-base/amor-4.5.0: 1 73,68%
903118 1223266 kde-base/kanagram-4.5.0: 1 73,83%
819385 1087368 kde-base/krdc-4.5.0: 1 75,35%
278540 368116 kde-base/solid-runtime-4.5.0: 1 75,67%
2218847 2923962 kde-base/knode-4.4.5: 1 75,88%
855037 1122472 kde-base/katomic-4.5.0: 1 76,17%
33168 43512 kde-base/kstartupconfig-4.5.0: 1 76,23%
951299 1246729 kde-base/blinken-4.5.0: 1 76,30%
1393369 1823984 kde-base/juk-4.5.0: 1 76,39%
581763 755240 kde-base/krfb-4.5.0: 1 77,03%
786736 1020955 kde-base/kmines-4.5.0: 1 77,06%
929363 1203216 kde-base/rocs-4.5.0: 1 77,24%
53936 68864 kde-base/kcmshell-4.5.0: 1 78,32%
958435 1223392 kde-base/ark-4.5.0: 1 78,34%
934331 1181031 kde-base/knetwalk-4.5.0: 1 79,11%
1124484 1403784 kde-base/ksystemlog-4.5.0: 1 80,10%
1072342 1329062 app-portage/eix-0.20.6: 1 80,68%
12760 15808 app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0.0.4g: 1 80,72%
350189 430421 app-crypt/pinentry-0.8.0: 1 81,36%
221179 271379 media-libs/qimageblitz-0.0.6: 1 81,50%
1227949 1499473 kde-base/killbots-4.5.0: 1 81,89%
1613305 1969071 kde-base/kgpg-4.5.0: 1 81,93%
1181219 1437220 kde-base/kmahjongg-4.5.0: 1 82,19%
1206440 1456096 kde-base/klines-4.5.0: 1 82,85%
1634685 1964732 kde-base/kwordquiz-4.5.0: 1 83,20%
1563990 1872211 kde-base/granatier-4.5.0: 1 83,54%
1315905 1562762 kde-base/kinfocenter-4.5.0: 1 84,20%
1402347 1645705 kde-base/khangman-4.5.0: 1 85,21%
323271 376527 kde-base/libkcddb-4.5.0: 1 85,86%
2016017 2341395 kde-base/kolourpaint-4.5.0: 1 86,10%
1740817 2020784 kde-base/kapman-4.5.0: 1 86,15%
1613645 1863566 kde-base/kmplot-4.5.0: 1 86,59%
1089567 1252587 kde-base/kbruch-4.5.0: 1 86,99%
18111 20703 sys-apps/vbetool-1.1: 1 87,48%
1411272 1610543 kde-base/kscd-4.5.0: 1 87,63%
457842 522074 dev-libs/libattica-0.1.4: 1 87,70%
903512 1029096 sys-block/partitionmanager-1.0.1: 1 87,80%
3864300 4385721 kde-base/kget-4.5.0: 1 88,11%
1850463 2100145 kde-base/kbreakout-4.5.0: 1 88,11%
33315 37723 media-libs/libreplaygain-465: 1 88,31%
20431 23095 kde-base/kcheckpass-4.5.0: 1 88,47%
2019584 2279299 kde-base/kbounce-4.5.0: 1 88,61%
21215 23815 app-admin/eselect-python-20100321: 1 89,08%
21977 24569 x11-apps/bdftopcf-1.0.2: 1 89,45%
324303 359711 sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r1: 1 90,16%
2868125 3175978 kde-base/ksudoku-4.5.0: 1 90,31%
813176 899582 kde-base/khelpcenter-4.5.0: 1 90,39%
5022704 5539659 kde-base/kfourinline-4.5.0: 1 90,67%
71873 79113 dev-util/automoc-0.9.88: 1 90,85%
34244 37556 x11-apps/rgb-1.0.3: 1 91,18%
27768 30232 x11-libs/libXdamage-1.1.3: 1 91,85%
3390151 3685123 kde-base/kblocks-4.5.0: 1 92,00%
157721 171305 sys-process/psmisc-22.12: 1 92,07%
31402 34002 x11-apps/xsetroot-1.0.3: 1 92,35%
195886 211662 net-misc/iputils-20100418: 1 92,55%
274440 296360 kde-base/kwalletd-4.5.0: 1 92,60%
3962372 4269622 kde-base/lskat-4.5.0: 1 92,80%
236158 254060 kde-base/kwrite-4.5.0: 1 92,95%
869131 934299 media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.118.0: 1 93,02%
36223 38815 sys-devel/gcc-config-1.4.1: 1 93,32%
3629608 3885899 kde-base/klettres-4.5.0: 1 93,40%
37063 39679 app-misc/realpath-1.15-r2: 1 93,41%
295856 316536 kde-base/libkpgp-4.4.5: 1 93,47%
901186 964084 kde-base/kmix-4.5.0: 1 93,48%
37955 40595 x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.1.0: 1 93,50%
854849 912841 net-libs/libmsn-4.1: 1 93,65%
174386 186074 sys-apps/dmidecode-2.10: 1 93,72%
4168693 4436171 kde-base/ktouch-4.5.0: 1 93,97%
4299214 4573153 kde-base/kdiamond-4.5.0: 1 94,01%
549751 583055 sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20100815160931: 1 94,29%
4922665 5217142 kde-base/kgoldrunner-4.5.0: 1 94,36%
163692 172956 sys-apps/man-1.6f-r4: 1 94,64%
47881 50529 x11-libs/libXScrnSaver-1.2.0: 1 94,76%
373959 394577 kde-base/kcron-4.5.0: 1 94,77%
10280189 10844962 kde-base/kiten-4.5.0: 1 94,79%
453600 478200 x11-libs/qt-svg-4.6.3: 1 94,86%
268282 282666 sys-apps/module-init-tools-3.12: 1 94,91%
174640 183920 app-laptop/radeontool-1.6.1: 1 94,95%
43674 45978 x11-libs/libXau-1.0.6: 1 94,99%
7265402 7646772 x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.6.3: 1 95,01%
50230 52830 x11-apps/xrdb-1.0.6: 1 95,08%
101096 106320 sys-apps/debianutils-3.4: 1 95,09%
44918 47222 x11-libs/libXdmcp-1.0.3: 1 95,12%
1537052 1614876 kde-base/libkexiv2-4.5.0: 1 95,18%
51691 54307 x11-apps/mkfontscale-1.0.7: 1 95,18%
474281 498053 kde-base/kmenuedit-4.5.0: 1 95,23%
212035 222491 app-misc/pax-utils-0.2.1: 1 95,30%
49497 51897 x11-libs/libXfixes-4.0.5: 1 95,38%
73126 76606 app-admin/metalog-1: 1 95,46%
6892246 7210670 kde-base/kwin-4.5.0: 1 95,58%
3167286 3313082 kde-base/kig-4.5.0: 1 95,60%
127838 133526 sys-apps/eject-2.1.5-r2: 1 95,74%
113383 118367 x11-libs/libpciaccess-0.12.0: 1 95,79%
63576 66224 x11-apps/xauth-1.0.4: 1 96,00%
813120 846047 x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.6.3: 1 96,11%
66779 69411 x11-apps/xprop-1.1.0: 1 96,21%
10989520 11398907 kde-base/kalzium-4.5.0: 1 96,41%
139463 144639 sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r11: 1 96,42%
70064 72640 x11-apps/xset-1.2.0: 1 96,45%
1839208 1903256 media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.23: 1 96,63%
436872 451762 kde-base/kcalc-4.5.0: 1 96,70%
238683 246403 dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.16: 1 96,87%
7422575 7657853 kde-base/ktuberling-4.5.0: 1 96,93%
82278 84870 x11-apps/xinit-1.2.1-r2: 1 96,95%
121662 125326 x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.3: 1 97,08%
132239 135962 kde-base/kgamma-4.5.0: 1 97,26%
1838742 1890022 app-crypt/qca-2.0.2-r2: 1 97,29%
1634531 1679267 kde-base/libkdeedu-4.5.0: 1 97,34%
2052849 2108634 sys-apps/texinfo-4.13: 1 97,35%
228888 235080 media-fonts/font-util-1.1.1-r1: 1 97,37%
453398 465502 dev-util/gperf-3.0.4: 1 97,40%
684696 702680 app-arch/libarchive-2.8.4: 1 97,44%
6415411 6583176 kde-base/kgeography-4.5.0: 1 97,45%
1036146 1062162 media-libs/taglib-1.6.3: 1 97,55%
323316 331196 kde-base/libtaskmanager-4.5.0: 1 97,62%
1157914 1185898 app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.3-r1: 1 97,64%
7406816 7582812 sys-apps/coreutils-8.5-r1: 1 97,68%
11079573 11341918 sys-apps/groff-1.20.1-r3: 1 97,69%
43521 44513 x11-apps/iceauth-1.0.3: 1 97,77%
194700 198540 app-arch/unrar-3.9.10: 1 98,07%
2098714 2139794 sys-apps/kbd-1.15.2-r1: 1 98,08%
145473 148121 net-misc/dhcpcd-5.2.7: 1 98,21%
3693975 3757263 sys-apps/shadow-4.1.4.2-r5: 1 98,32%
327197 332453 sys-power/pm-utils-1.4.1: 1 98,42%
4853072 4930075 x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns-4.6.3: 1 98,44%
292927 297343 sys-devel/bc-1.06.95: 1 98,51%
4090486 4151142 app-crypt/gnupg-2.0.16-r1: 1 98,54%
1842652 1868329 kde-base/kolf-4.5.0: 1 98,63%
968090 980688 x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.6.3: 1 98,72%
376940 381722 x11-libs/qt-test-4.6.3: 1 98,75%
799292 808188 app-arch/xz-utils-4.999.9_beta: 1 98,90%
4062434 4107528 app-cdr/cdrtools-3.00: 1 98,90%
533460 539372 sys-apps/grep-2.6.3: 1 98,90%
708616 716266 x11-libs/qt-sql-4.6.3-r2: 1 98,93%
607675 614155 sys-apps/usbutils-0.90: 1 98,94%
343896 347432 kde-base/kephal-4.5.0: 1 98,98%
247739 250259 app-portage/portage-utils-0.4: 1 98,99%
1248500 1260780 kde-base/khotkeys-4.5.0: 1 99,03%
2025037 2044861 dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-r1: 1 99,03%
55407 55943 mail-mta/ssmtp-2.62-r8: 1 99,04%
808351 816159 app-arch/zip-3.0: 1 99,04%
285996 288604 sys-devel/patch-2.6.1: 1 99,10%
278484 280980 x11-libs/libXext-1.1.2: 1 99,11%
1402090 1414314 kde-base/kdebase-data-4.5.0: 1 99,14%
79370129 80037044 net-libs/xulrunner-1.9.2.8-r1: 1 99,17%
1834970 1849978 x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.13.1: 1 99,19%
295855 298159 media-libs/libogg-1.2.0: 1 99,23%
343618 346226 x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.71: 1 99,25%
633235 637811 sys-apps/diffutils-3.0: 1 99,28%
356845 359341 sys-apps/sandbox-2.3-r1: 1 99,31%
406163 408731 x11-libs/libXi-1.3.1: 1 99,37%
2273221 2287479 app-shells/bash-4.1_p7: 1 99,38%
412986 415354 x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.21: 1 99,43%
1429361 1437539 kde-base/kcontrol-4.5.0: 1 99,43%
1146599 1151655 net-dns/libidn-1.19: 1 99,56%
22583030 22682358 x11-libs/qt-core-4.6.3: 1 99,56%
22899926 22995546 dev-libs/icu-4.4.1: 1 99,58%
666407 669079 app-editors/nano-2.2.5: 1 99,60%
1453902 1459151 dev-libs/rasqal-0.9.19: 1 99,64%
4388273 4401489 dev-libs/nss-3.12.7: 1 99,70%
3363115 3372395 sys-libs/pam-1.1.1-r2: 1 99,72%
947466 950050 sys-devel/make-3.81-r2: 1 99,73%
1398788 1402316 kde-base/kurifilter-plugins-4.5.0: 1 99,75%
2160907 2166035 media-libs/raptor-1.4.21: 1 99,76%
6114435 6128579 kde-base/ksplash-4.5.0: 1 99,77%
2897484 2902812 sys-libs/timezone-data-2010l: 1 99,82%
45228 45308 dev-perl/Digest-SHA1-2.13: 1 99,82%
223888 224256 x11-apps/xkbcomp-1.1.1: 1 99,84%
2532927 2536671 kde-base/libkmahjongg-4.5.0: 1 99,85%
118855183 119018175 dev-java/icedtea6-bin-1.8.1: 1 99,86%
1121020 1122516 sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.7: 1 99,87%
2958608 2962376 sys-apps/busybox-1.17.1-r1: 1 99,87%
3254880 3258936 sci-visualization/gnuplot-4.4.0: 1 99,88%
3133977 3137265 x11-libs/libxcb-1.7: 1 99,90%
53876 53911 sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.1: 1 99,94%
75225873 75249217 sys-devel/gcc-4.5.1: 1 99,97%
53728 53736 kde-base/kdepim-strigi-analyzer-4.4.5: 1 99,99%
1369637 1369774 sys-devel/prelink-20100714: 1 99,99%
95378733 95382269 dev-java/sun-jre-bin-1.6.0.21: 1 100,00%
120669 120670 kde-base/printer-applet-4.5.0: 1 100,00%
1775951 1775962 kde-base/kajongg-4.5.0: 1 100,00%
215250 215250 app-admin/eselect-1.2.11: 1 100,00%
6575 6575 app-admin/eselect-boost-0.3: 1 100,00%
2581 2581 app-admin/eselect-cblas-0.1: 1 100,00%
3606 3606 app-admin/eselect-esd-20100127: 1 100,00%
4504 4504 app-admin/eselect-fontconfig-1.1: 1 100,00%
554440 554440 app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.1.1-r2: 1 100,00%
17985 17985 app-admin/perl-cleaner-2.3: 1 100,00%
16476408 16476408 app-cdr/k3b-2.0.1: 1 100,00%
2345171 2345171 app-dicts/myspell-nl-20090725: 1 100,00%
714020 714020 app-i18n/man-pages-nl-0.13.3: 1 100,00%
293612 293612 app-misc/hal-info-20091130: 1 100,00%
45100 45100 app-misc/mime-types-8: 1 100,00%
3050929 3050929 app-misc/strigi-0.7.2: 1 100,00%
2466655 2466655 app-office/akonadi-server-1.4.0: 1 100,00%
359899955 359899955 app-office/openoffice-3.2.1: 1 100,00%
920374 920374 app-portage/gentoolkit-0.3.0_rc10-r1: 1 100,00%
184253 184253 app-portage/layman-1.4.1: 1 100,00%
10152 10152 app-text/build-docbook-catalog-1.5: 1 100,00%
391455 391455 app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.2-r2: 1 100,00%
413942 413942 app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.3-r1: 1 100,00%
15044933 15044933 app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets-1.75.2: 1 100,00%
1105214 1105214 app-text/hunspell-1.2.11: 1 100,00%
1429047 1429047 app-text/iso-codes-3.19: 1 100,00%
876348 876348 app-text/libwpd-0.8.14: 1 100,00%
5326978 5326978 app-text/poppler-0.14.2: 1 100,00%
194180 194180 app-text/sgml-common-0.6.3-r5: 1 100,00%
2382497 2382497 dev-cpp/clucene-0.9.21b-r1: 1 100,00%
1139211 1139211 dev-cpp/eigen-2.0.14: 1 100,00%
60562474 60562474 dev-db/mysql-5.1.49-r1: 1 100,00%
22028 22028 dev-db/mysql-init-scripts-1.2: 1 100,00%
891698 891698 dev-db/unixODBC-2.3.0: 1 100,00%
2081686 2081686 dev-java/ant-core-1.8.1: 1 100,00%
401563 401563 dev-java/ant-nodeps-1.8.1: 1 100,00%
711231 711231 dev-java/gjdoc-0.7.9-r2: 1 100,00%
264358 264358 dev-java/java-config-2.1.11: 1 100,00%
17608 17608 dev-java/java-config-wrapper-0.16: 1 100,00%
298085 298085 dev-java/javacc-4.2: 1 100,00%
79315 79315 dev-java/javatoolkit-0.3.0-r4: 1 100,00%
163546 163546 dev-java/junit-3.8.2-r1: 1 100,00%
50651 50651 dev-java/libreadline-java-0.8.0-r2: 1 100,00%
81290 81290 dev-java/lucene-analyzers-2.3.2: 1 100,00%
616476 616476 dev-java/rhino-1.5.5-r5: 1 100,00%
147878 147878 dev-java/servletapi-2.4-r5: 1 100,00%
79292 79292 dev-java/tomcat-servlet-api-4.1.36: 1 100,00%
1099642 1099642 dev-lang/orc-0.4.5: 1 100,00%
58381195 58381195 dev-lang/perl-5.12.1-r1: 1 100,00%
27902973 27902973 dev-lang/python-2.6.5-r3: 1 100,00%
27316484 27316484 dev-lang/python-3.1.2-r4: 1 100,00%
4195923 4195923 dev-lang/swig-2.0.0: 1 100,00%
3617711 3617711 dev-lang/yasm-1.0.1: 1 100,00%
64338875 64338875 dev-libs/boost-1.42.0-r2: 1 100,00%
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200772 196676 x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.4.0: 1 102,08%
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[pactoo]

Ok. Here a conclusion for us more conservative and safety oriented people. When I build my new system with gcc 4.5.1 from scratch (or rather, from stage 3) on a clarkdale CPU, I'd go:

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-mtune=core2 -march=core2 -mfpmath=sse -malign-double -m128bit-long-double -msseregparm -msse4.2 -maes  -floop-parallelize-all -floop-interchange -floop-strip-mine -floop-block -fopenmp -fira-loop-pressure -fgraphite-identity -fomit-frame-pointer -ftree-vectorize -O2 -pipe #-flto: not yet, waiting for libtool to catch up

Is that correct? Well, -fomit-frame-pointer is part of O2, but specifying it exclusively, does not matter either.

[kernelOfTruth]

Ok. Here a conclusion for us more conservative and safety oriented people. When I build my new system with gcc 4.5.1 from scratch (or rather, from stage 3) on a clarkdale CPU, I'd go:

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-mtune=core2 -march=core2 -mfpmath=sse -malign-double -m128bit-long-double -msseregparm -msse4.2 -maes  -floop-parallelize-all -floop-interchange -floop-strip-mine -floop-block -fopenmp -fira-loop-pressure -fgraphite-identity -fomit-frame-pointer -ftree-vectorize -O2 -pipe #-flto: not yet, waiting for libtool to catch up

Is that correct? Well, -fomit-frame-pointer is part of O2, but specifying it exclusively, does not matter either.

that might be just for me but:

IMO -fopenmp and -flto still break a lot of (they simply don't compile) - the other should be somewhat fine



does -floop-parallelize-all do anything at all besides indexing parts where it could parallelize ?

You can trigger it by 2 flags -floop-parallelize-all -ftree-parallelize-loops=4.
Both of them is needed, the first flag will trigger Graphite pass to mark loops that can be parallel and the second flag will trigger the code generation part.

http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/Graphite/Parallelization

so far ftree-parallelize-loops and floop-parallelize-all didn't work that well (last time I tried there were also lots of compile failures)

[pactoo]

For me -malign-double broke quite a few, too, so I also left this one out.

[kernelOfTruth]

For me -malign-double broke quite a few, too, so I also left this one out.

pactoo, you still remember some of them ?

I used malign-double on my whole system and I haven't noticed any side-effects so far

[wrc1944]

FWIW, with gcc-4.5.1 I had a problem with -fgraphite-identity and PyQt4, which then prevented me from installing pykde4-4.5.1 and a few other kde-4.5.1 packages, including startkde. Removing -fgraphite-identity just for PyQt4 allowed me to finish up an ~x86 portage kde-4.5.1 update.

[ToeiRei]

are we able to set cflags per package to work around that?

[ssteinberg]

FWIW, with gcc-4.5.1I had a problem with -fgraphite-identity and PyQt4, which then prevented me from installing pykde4-4.5.1 and a few other kde-4.5.1 packages, including startkde. Removing -fgraphite-identity just for PyQt4 allowed me to finish up an ~x86 portage kde-4.5.1 update.

Doesn't happen with amd64

[wrc1944]

ToeiRei wrote:

are we able to set cflags per package to work around that?

I forget exactly how, but there was an /etc/portage/bashrc method, and another method way back. A forum search should turn them up. Guess I'll do that now.

Take a look at this- seems like it's the latest method: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/CflagsExceptions

[pactoo]

are we able to set cflags per package to work around that?

Yes there is. As example bash, which at least propagates not liking malign:

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mkdir -p /etc/portage/env/app-shells
cd /etc/portage/env/app-shells
echo "CFLAGS=-march=overclock -O666" > bash

Basically you create an basenamed file below /etc/portage/env/<category>/ and put all your C[XX] and LDFLAGS in there

@kernel
gcc itself failed, but I very likely do have broken ram, so until further notice I take back my statement. May have just been coincidence with removing the flag and the larger packages (->gcc) succeed to compile. Some still fail without malign-double and the result of memcheck wasn't exactly pleasant. So once this is fixed, I may retry with double alignment.

[pactoo]

With working Ram world builds fine now, even with malign-double. The only thing left not wanting to compile is openoffice. Anyone success with this beast so far?

[Edit] Less ricy and it builds. Will now work my way up. Or not

[benneque]

I read the whole thread here and I didn't understand if -graphite-identity is neccessary for graphite to work or not ?!
No clear answers

I have now compiled whole world (incl. KDE 4.5.1 , QT 4.7 , etc.) and just grub2 has those known problems.
My flags are:

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CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"

CFLAGS="-march=native -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-ident -ftree-loop-distribution -floop-block -floop-interchange -floop-strip-mine"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Bdirect -Wl,--as-needed"

using GCC 4.5.1 , ~amd64...

Soo... graphite-identity or not? Any advantages ?

[xming]

I can't even get kdelibs-4.5.2 compiled with CFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -pipe" on amd64. I get this

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Linking CXX shared library ../lib/libkdeui.so
CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/notifications/kstatusnotifieritem.o: In function `KStatusNotifierItem::setContextMenu(KMenu*)':
kstatusnotifieritem.cpp:(.text+0xce3): undefined reference to `DBusMenuExporter::DBusMenuExporter(QString const&, QMenu*, QDBusConnection const&)'
CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/notifications/kstatusnotifieritem.o: In function `KDBusMenuExporter::~KDBusMenuExporter()':
kstatusnotifieritem.cpp:(.text._ZN17KDBusMenuExporterD2Ev[_ZN17KDBusMenuExporterD5Ev]+0xb): undefined reference to `DBusMenuExporter::~DBusMenuExporter()'
CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/notifications/kstatusnotifieritem.o: In function `KDBusMenuExporter::~KDBusMenuExporter()':
kstatusnotifieritem.cpp:(.text._ZN17KDBusMenuExporterD0Ev[_ZN17KDBusMenuExporterD5Ev]+0xf): undefined reference to `DBusMenuExporter::~DBusMenuExporter()'
CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/notifications/kstatusnotifieritem.o:(.data.rel.ro._ZTV17KDBusMenuExporter[vtable for KDBusMenuExporter]+0x10): undefined reference to `DBusMenuExporter::metaObject() const'
CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/notifications/kstatusnotifieritem.o:(.data.rel.ro._ZTV17KDBusMenuExporter[vtable for KDBusMenuExporter]+0x18): undefined reference to `DBusMenuExporter::qt_metacast(char const*)'
CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/notifications/kstatusnotifieritem.o:(.data.rel.ro._ZTV17KDBusMenuExporter[vtable for KDBusMenuExporter]+0x20): undefined reference to `DBusMenuExporter::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, void**)'
CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/notifications/kstatusnotifieritem.o:(.data.rel.ro._ZTI17KDBusMenuExporter[typeinfo for KDBusMenuExporter]+0x10): undefined reference to `typeinfo for DBusMenuExporter'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [lib/libkdeui.so.5.5.0] Error 1
make[1]: *** [kdeui/CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2

[Elv13]

I read the whole thread here and I didn't understand if -graphite-identity is neccessary for graphite to work or not ?!
No clear answers

I have now compiled whole world (incl. KDE 4.5.1 , QT 4.7 , etc.) and just grub2 has those known problems.
My flags are:

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CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"

CFLAGS="-march=native -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-ident -ftree-loop-distribution -floop-block -floop-interchange -floop-strip-mine"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Bdirect -Wl,--as-needed"

using GCC 4.5.1 , ~amd64...

Soo... graphite-identity or not? Any advantages ?

Is Bdirect merged present? I ear all time it was rejected upstream.

[DaggyStyle]

does anyone have problem emerging the following packages with 4.5.1?

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kdesudo
opencity
kfax
audacity
kgtk
pdftk

[kernelOfTruth]

does anyone have problem emerging the following packages with 4.5.1?

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kdesudo
opencity
kfax
audacity
kgtk
pdftk

pdftk has never worked for me since ages - and never compiled successfully with gcc 4.5.x for me

it however compiled fine with gcc-4.4.4-r1 and

CFLAGS="-O2 -march=core2 -mtune=core2 -pipe" CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden" emerge pdftk

for me

audacity compiled for me,

don't know about the others - I don't use them (/yet)

[xibo]

FWIW, with gcc-4.5.1 I had a problem with -fgraphite-identity and PyQt4, which then prevented me from installing pykde4-4.5.1 and a few other kde-4.5.1 packages, including startkde. Removing -fgraphite-identity just for PyQt4 allowed me to finish up an ~x86 portage kde-4.5.1 update.

kdebase-startkde is only a shell script though...

I can't even get kdelibs-4.5.2 compiled with CFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -pipe" on amd64. I get this

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Linking CXX shared library ../lib/libkdeui.so
CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/notifications/kstatusnotifieritem.o: In function `KStatusNotifierItem::setContextMenu(KMenu*)':
kstatusnotifieritem.cpp:(.text+0xce3): undefined reference to `DBusMenuExporter::DBusMenuExporter(QString const&, QMenu*, QDBusConnection const&)'
CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/notifications/kstatusnotifieritem.o: In function `KDBusMenuExporter::~KDBusMenuExporter()':
kstatusnotifieritem.cpp:(.text._ZN17KDBusMenuExporterD2Ev[_ZN17KDBusMenuExporterD5Ev]+0xb): undefined reference to `DBusMenuExporter::~DBusMenuExporter()'
CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/notifications/kstatusnotifieritem.o: In function `KDBusMenuExporter::~KDBusMenuExporter()':
kstatusnotifieritem.cpp:(.text._ZN17KDBusMenuExporterD0Ev[_ZN17KDBusMenuExporterD5Ev]+0xf): undefined reference to `DBusMenuExporter::~DBusMenuExporter()'
CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/notifications/kstatusnotifieritem.o:(.data.rel.ro._ZTV17KDBusMenuExporter[vtable for KDBusMenuExporter]+0x10): undefined reference to `DBusMenuExporter::metaObject() const'
CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/notifications/kstatusnotifieritem.o:(.data.rel.ro._ZTV17KDBusMenuExporter[vtable for KDBusMenuExporter]+0x18): undefined reference to `DBusMenuExporter::qt_metacast(char const*)'
CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/notifications/kstatusnotifieritem.o:(.data.rel.ro._ZTV17KDBusMenuExporter[vtable for KDBusMenuExporter]+0x20): undefined reference to `DBusMenuExporter::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, void**)'
CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/notifications/kstatusnotifieritem.o:(.data.rel.ro._ZTI17KDBusMenuExporter[typeinfo for KDBusMenuExporter]+0x10): undefined reference to `typeinfo for DBusMenuExporter'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [lib/libkdeui.so.5.5.0] Error 1
make[1]: *** [kdeui/CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2

this is due to either too agressive link optimization or (more probably) incompatible versions of dbus, qt-dbus and kdelibs (that error messages normally occurs when you forget to moc a Q_OBJECT marked QObject instance).

[xaviermiller]

Hello,

I just switched my 2 machines to GCC-4.5. Everything seems fine, except the -O3 CFLAGS that doesn't work in i686 (corrupted stack frames in some cases : [bug=270120]See Bug 270120, present in 4.4 and 4.5[/bug])

[costel78]

When should we expect a release for 4.5.2 version ?
From Tentative Timeline - http://gcc.gnu.org/develop.html#timeline - it seems to be a cycle of about 3 months between each release, but there is no official report, nothing conclusive.

[Letharion]

Switched three KDE machines over to 4.5.1.
mysql-workbench and diffutils caused problems, otherwise all looks ok.

[saellaven]

just rebuilt system

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Portage 2.1.8.3 (default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.5.1, glibc-2.12.1-r3, 2.6.36-gentoo-r3 x86_64)
=================================================================
System uname: Linux-2.6.36-gentoo-r3-x86_64-AMD_Athlon-tm-_64_X2_Dual_Core_Processor_4400+-with-gentoo-1.12.14
Timestamp of tree: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 02:45:01 +0000
distcc 3.1 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu [disabled]
ccache version 2.4 [enabled]
app-shells/bash:     4.1_p7
dev-java/java-config: 2.1.11-r1
dev-lang/python:     2.6.5-r3, 3.1.2-r4
dev-util/ccache:     2.4-r7
dev-util/cmake:      2.8.1-r2
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.14-r1
sys-apps/sandbox:    2.3-r1
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.65-r1
sys-devel/automake:  1.9.6-r3, 1.10.3, 1.11.1
sys-devel/binutils:  2.20.1-r1
sys-devel/gcc:       4.3.5, 4.4.5, 4.5.1-r1
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1
sys-devel/libtool:   2.2.10
sys-devel/make:      3.81-r2
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.36

CFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -mtune=native -pipe -ggdb -floop-interchange -floop-strip-mine -floop-block -fgraphite-identity"

Out of 297 packages, I ran into problems with:
sys-apps/diffutils-2.8.7-r2 (hang fixed with patch from http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340923 )
sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20090728014017-r1 (fixed by unmasking sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20100815160931 )
x11-libs/cairo-1.8.10 (ICE fixed by filtering graphite CFLAGS http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346445 )

I'll probably rebuild world later this week.

[benneque]

is grub-1.98 now working with gcc 4.5.x ?
I haven't rebuild my whole system with the new patched 4.5.1 release, but instead tried to only rebuild grub-1.98 and I had again the boot error message (wrong pointer or sth...) Would a complete rebuild help?
(grub-9999 still works fine)

[FizzyWidget]

i didn't hit a single issue upgrading to gcc-4.5.1, did emerge -e system, then emerge -e world, and everything went great, maybe i was just lucky

[Letharion]

Switched three KDE machines over to 4.5.1.
mysql-workbench and diffutils caused problems, otherwise all looks ok.

I'm adding that this was on mostly stable systems, that the solution to both packages was simply to ~arch them.