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Post by dirtbag » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:38 pm

http://www.google.com/chat/video now supports linux.. well the debian flavor anyway.

any idears how to jam this square (debian) peg into the round gentoo hole? ;)

i.e. how can I dismantle this .deb file and get it installed right. anyone tried yet?

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Post by Biert » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:09 pm

There is a deb2targz package in portage that will convert .deb packages to .tar.gz files. Untarring this file to / might do the trick.

Quick first glance shows that it installs a cron script to /etc/cron.daily to configure repositories, might want to get rid of that.
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Post by dirtbag » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:16 pm

thanks

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Post by queen » Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:45 pm

Biert wrote:There is a deb2targz package in portage that will convert .deb packages to .tar.gz files. Untarring this file to / might do the trick.

Quick first glance shows that it installs a cron script to /etc/cron.daily to configure repositories, might want to get rid of that.
I am interested in this voice chat. How did you see that it tries to install a cron script? Are there any other interesting things it tries to install? The voice works ok?

I know someone few months ago tried to install the plugin in windows and wasn't satisfied.
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Post by dirtbag » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:18 pm

if you expand the tarball that is made from the deb2tgz, then you will see
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/etc/cron.daily/google-voice.something

didnt get a chance to look and see what it does.

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Post by queen » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:26 pm

dirtbag wrote:if you expand the tarball that is made from the deb2tgz, then you will see
(trying to remember from memory)

/etc/cron.daily/google-voice.something

didnt get a chance to look and see what it does.

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Thanks

Please report how the voice quality is when you try it.
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Post by Biert » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:53 pm

Extracting the tarball creates these files/directories:

etc/cron.daily/google-talkplugin
opt/google/...
usr/lib/...
usr/share/doc/...

I thought it would be as simple as placing the google dir in /opt and creating the proper plugin symlinks for Firefox (or whatever browser you want to use, I tried in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins), but when I do Firefox crashes.

I'm on amd64, tried the amd64 version of the plugin, using firefox-3.6.8-r1 and www-plugins/nspluginwrapper-1.3.0, if that matters.
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Post by dirtbag » Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:01 pm

yeah, theres just too much crap that gets expanded.. its not gonna be as simple as dropping the plugin.so into the appropriate directory.

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./etc/
./etc/cron.daily/
./usr/
./usr/share/
./usr/share/doc/
./usr/share/doc/google-talkplugin/
./usr/share/doc/google-talkplugin/changelog.Debian.gz
./usr/lib/
./usr/lib/xulrunner/
./usr/lib/xulrunner/plugins/
./usr/lib/mozilla/
./usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
./usr/lib/iceape/
./usr/lib/iceape/plugins/
./usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/
./usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/
./usr/lib/iceweasel/
./usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/
./usr/lib/firefox/
./usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
./usr/lib/midbrowser/
./usr/lib/midbrowser/plugins/
./opt/
./opt/google/
./opt/google/talkplugin/
./opt/google/talkplugin/libnpgoogletalk.so
./opt/google/talkplugin/cron/
./opt/google/talkplugin/cron/google-talkplugin
./opt/google/talkplugin/lib/
./opt/google/talkplugin/lib/libCg.so
./opt/google/talkplugin/lib/libCgGL.so
./opt/google/talkplugin/GoogleTalkPlugin
./opt/google/talkplugin/libnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so
./etc/cron.daily/google-talkplugin
./usr/lib/xulrunner/plugins/libnpgoogletalk.so
./usr/lib/xulrunner/plugins/libnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so
./usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libnpgoogletalk.so
./usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so
./usr/lib/iceape/plugins/libnpgoogletalk.so
./usr/lib/iceape/plugins/libnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so
./usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/libnpgoogletalk.so
./usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/libnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so
./usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libnpgoogletalk.so
./usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so
./usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libnpgoogletalk.so
./usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so
./usr/lib/midbrowser/plugins/libnpgoogletalk.so
./usr/lib/midbrowser/plugins/libnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so
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Post by M » Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:44 pm

You only need these from the list

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./opt/google/
./opt/google/talkplugin/
./opt/google/talkplugin/libnpgoogletalk.so
./opt/google/talkplugin/lib/
./opt/google/talkplugin/lib/libCg.so
./opt/google/talkplugin/lib/libCgGL.so
./opt/google/talkplugin/GoogleTalkPlugin
./opt/google/talkplugin/libnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so 
I am on amd64, I had to install nvidia-cg-toolkit, check with ldd if any lib is missing, make symlinks for ibnpgoogletalk.so and libnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so to /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins and that will work. I only tested cam and mic in settings but all is working.
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Post by dirtbag » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:02 am

thanks M, I did what you said and restarted my browser and it seemed to load just fine..

now to find someone to chat with.. ;)

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Post by renkinjutsu » Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:59 am

What browser are you using? I'm using Chromium, and the plugin shows in the about:plugins page, but gmail still prompts me to download the plugin

Edit:: Just had a go with Firefox, and got the same results =\
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Post by queen » Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:29 am

M wrote:You only need these from the list

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./opt/google/
./opt/google/talkplugin/
./opt/google/talkplugin/libnpgoogletalk.so
./opt/google/talkplugin/lib/
./opt/google/talkplugin/lib/libCg.so
./opt/google/talkplugin/lib/libCgGL.so
./opt/google/talkplugin/GoogleTalkPlugin
./opt/google/talkplugin/libnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so 
I am on amd64, I had to install nvidia-cg-toolkit, check with ldd if any lib is missing, make symlinks for ibnpgoogletalk.so and libnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so to /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins and that will work. I only tested cam and mic in settings but all is working.
I am on intel machine 32 bit. x86.
What you say is a simple rm of the rest of the files?
I don't have nvidia so, I won't need the toolkit.

You ran

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 ldd -r -d file
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Post by M » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:07 am

I am on intel machine 32 bit. x86.
What you say is a simple rm of the rest of the files?
I don't have nvidia so, I won't need the toolkit.

You ran
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ldd -r -d file
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I actually only copied these files from archive, the rest are symlinks for plugins, cron script, debian doc etc. You WILL need nvidia-cg-toolkit, this is a library, no matter you don't have nvidia card. I ran only ldd on all files, GoogleTalkPlugin is 32bit binary so those on amd64 will need some emul* packages.
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Post by queen » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:57 am

M wrote:
I am on intel machine 32 bit. x86.
What you say is a simple rm of the rest of the files?
I don't have nvidia so, I won't need the toolkit.

You ran
Code:
ldd -r -d file
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I actually only copied these files from archive, the rest are symlinks for plugins, cron script, debian doc etc. You WILL need nvidia-cg-toolkit, this is a library, no matter you don't have nvidia card. I ran only ldd on all files, GoogleTalkPlugin is 32bit binary so those on amd64 will need some emul* packages.
Thanks for the clarifications. Will give it a try tomorrow evening. I am curious to know if the sound works well.
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Post by M » Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:19 am

There is now ebuild at http://bugs.gentoo.org/333769 . I also posted my ebuild there, works for me on amd64 but I noticed that firefox can eat CPU when testing cam.
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Post by queen » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:25 pm

M wrote:There is now ebuild at http://bugs.gentoo.org/333769 . I also posted my ebuild there, works for me on amd64 but I noticed that firefox can eat CPU when testing cam.
First of all, thanks a lot. Never created an ebuild.

I don't need for a cam. Just voice. All these programs that use cam eat cpu. I remember when I had skype and tried the camera it reached 100% cpu. So, it's not a big surprise about your remark.
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Post by renkinjutsu » Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:10 pm

M wrote:There is now ebuild at http://bugs.gentoo.org/333769 . I also posted my ebuild there, works for me on amd64 but I noticed that firefox can eat CPU when testing cam.
I still have the same problem when using the ebuild =\ .. browser recognizes the plugin, but gmail just doesn't know my browser has the plugin installed
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Post by M » Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:46 pm

I still have the same problem when using the ebuild =\ .. browser recognizes the plugin, but gmail just doesn't know my browser has the plugin installed
Try with ebuild from this link http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=243925
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Post by renkinjutsu » Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:28 am

I tried that ebuild. It installed glitz as a dependency, and the results are the same for both firefox and chromium. Gmail still prompts me to download the plugin =\ oh well.
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Post by wolfden » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:32 am

I had same issue - browser detected, but still insisted on plugin, replaced the ebuild from bugzilla with this one

http://code.google.com/p/cj-overlay/sou ... 278c6ff530

and got it working on KDE x86 Sabayon
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Post by renkinjutsu » Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:34 am

I'm on that ebuild right now, but still no luck. I kept Chromium's native task manager open the whole time. Google Talk Plugin didn't show up when i opened it. I browsed to Gmail, and the plugin was activated (It popped up in the task list) and gmail still doesn't recognize that i have the plugin installed =\
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Post by wolfden » Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:00 am

I haven't tried chrome yet, only tried it in firefox.
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Post by renkinjutsu » Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:06 am

I've tried both.. Not working in either =\
It makes me sad... On the other hand, it's already a known issue (Don't know if the listed issue is meant to be specific for linux or for other OS's or just in general though)[/url].
http://www.google.com/support/chat/bin/ ... _issues.cs
I've already clicked the "Report" button. Anyone who has the same problem as me should click that button as well. Maybe it'd put it higher on their priority list.
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Post by motosauro » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:46 am

M wrote:
I still have the same problem when using the ebuild =\ .. browser recognizes the plugin, but gmail just doesn't know my browser has the plugin installed
Try with ebuild from this link http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=243925
Works for me on amd64, thx
This ebuild installed nvidia toolkit while the other one (http://bugs.gentoo.org/333769 -9999 version) did not
Thanks
Marco

EDIT:
This ebuild only works for Chrome. In FF the plugin doesn't show up in the about:plugins
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Post by renkinjutsu » Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:56 pm

Okay, i finally got it working.
I noticed the problem unintentionally (I had already given up)..
The GoogleTalkPlugin constantly tries to connect to something through port 43677 but it was blocked by my kernel iptables. I just had to enter a rule to accept it, and it works now!

EDIT::
Okay.. nevermind. Opening that port was not a permanent fix.. Apparently, the plugin tries to open a different port every time =\ this time it's 42104
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