[100526] xorg-server-1.8.0 final: udev kills hal

[asturm]

You mean, work as in...?

Couldn't get 1.8.0.902 to compile, 1.8.1 though did but didn't bring any cure for the xrandr issue at least.

[darkbasic]

1.8.1 though did but didn't bring any cure for the xrandr issue at least.

[Shining Arcanine]

How did you install x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.1?

[asturm]

Personal overlay, modified 1.8.0 ebuild (removed two patches that went upstream).

If you're curious, look here for the ebuild.

[Shining Arcanine]

Thanks for the information. I am installing xorg-server 1.8.1 now.

[andorreJr]

Just switched to the new xorg, removed hal use flag and all is working great (I have to keep hal running at least for battery widget)
Finally I also have alt+Fkey VT switch back (lost with xorg-server 1.7 when started using precompiled ati-drivers) and, thanks to Odysseus, the touchpad now is working again in the right way.

To resolve the Alps touchpad issue was simple. I removed all vestiges of any input drivers from my xorg.conf and deleted my /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics file. Then I opened konsole and started experimenting with synclient. I ran synclient -l to see what options were active. I experimented turning on and off different synclient options until I got it working the way I wanted. Then I edited my /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-synaptics.conf file.

All I needed to do was add the following lines:

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	Option "TapButton1" "1"
	Option "VertEdgeScroll" "1"
	Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "1"
	Option "CircularScrolling" "1"

So that my /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-synaptics.conf file now looks like this:

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Section "InputClass"
	Identifier "touchpad catchall"
	MatchIsTouchpad "on"
	MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
	Driver "synaptics"
	Option "TapButton1" "1"
	Option "VertEdgeScroll" "1"
	Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "1"
	Option "CircularScrolling" "1"
EndSection

I'm using x11-drivers/ati-drivers-10.4-r1 and x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.1-r1 from gentoo-quebec overlay

Thanks to all

[Jazz-KP]

Which version of udev is required to build 1.8.x? I tried 151-r3 and upgraded to 154, though couldn't build xorg-server 1.8.0 or 1.8.1-r1:

In file included from udev.c:30:
/usr/local/include/libudev.h:28:2: error: #error "#define LIBUDEV_I_KNOW_THE_API_IS_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE is needed to use this experimental library version"
udev.c: In function 'config_udev_init':
udev.c:224: error: too many arguments to function 'udev_monitor_new_from_netlink'
make[1]: *** [udev.lo] Error 1
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
mv -f .deps/config.Tpo .deps/config.Plo
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.1-r1/work/xorg-server-1.8.1/config'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

[kernelOfTruth]

Which version of udev is required to build 1.8.x? I tried 151-r3 and upgraded to 154, though couldn't build xorg-server 1.8.0 or 1.8.1-r1:

In file included from udev.c:30:
/usr/local/include/libudev.h:28:2: error: #error "#define LIBUDEV_I_KNOW_THE_API_IS_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE is needed to use this experimental library version"
udev.c: In function 'config_udev_init':
udev.c:224: error: too many arguments to function 'udev_monitor_new_from_netlink'
make[1]: *** [udev.lo] Error 1
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
mv -f .deps/config.Tpo .deps/config.Plo
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.1-r1/work/xorg-server-1.8.1/config'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

echo "sys-fs/udev extras" >> /etc/portage/package.use

might do the trick - try to re-emerge it afterwards

[Shining Arcanine]

Since around the xorg-server upgrade, I have been having trouble where some times KDE would freeze on login for several seconds until KDE detected an issue and disabled compositing. Through the course of troubleshooting, I downgraded to x11-apps/xinit-1.2.0-r3, x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.7 and x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.7. This did not fix the issue, so I tried downgrading to x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-190.53-r1 and so far, so good. I have been heavily leaning torward the nvidia drivers as being the cause of the issue. If this turns out to be the case (i.e. I go a few weeks without issues), what are the oldest x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers I can use with x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.1?

[kernelOfTruth]

anyone managed to get ctrl + alt + backspace aka "zap"

working with 1.8* xorg-servers ?

[Shining Arcanine]

anyone managed to get ctrl + alt + backspace aka "zap"

working with 1.8* xorg-servers ?

Let me know if you get it working with 1.7.x xog-servers. That is one feature from Ubuntu that I would like to have on Gentoo.

[rahulthewall]

anyone managed to get ctrl + alt + backspace aka "zap"

working with 1.8* xorg-servers ?

Let me know if you get it working with 1.7.x xog-servers. That is one feature from Ubuntu that I would like to have on Gentoo.

Those with KDE can enable it in the Keyboard Settings in System Settings - I do not know what to add to xorg.conf to get it working.

[amade]

anyone managed to get ctrl + alt + backspace aka "zap"

working with 1.8* xorg-servers ?

X.Org X Server 1.8.1

Section "InputClass"
Identifier "keyboard"
Option "XkbLayout" "pl"
Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
EndSection

[kernelOfTruth]

anyone managed to get ctrl + alt + backspace aka "zap"

working with 1.8* xorg-servers ?

Let me know if you get it working with 1.7.x xog-servers. That is one feature from Ubuntu that I would like to have on Gentoo.

Those with KDE can enable it in the Keyboard Settings in System Settings - I do not know what to add to xorg.conf to get it working.

yeah - and Gnome,

but that often isn't enough:

add

<match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.keys">
      <merge key="input.xkb.rules" type="string">xorg</merge>
      <!-- Option "XkbModel" "pc105" -->
      <merge key="input.xkb.model" type="string">evdev</merge>
      <merge key="input.xkb.layout" type="string">de</merge>
      <merge key="input.xkb.options" type="string">terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp</merge>
    </match>

maybe you'll also need

Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"

[Jazz-KP]

might do the trick - try to re-emerge it afterwards

Well, thanks. Though, the problem was with cruft in my system left after emergency manual udev installation. File included was from /local/ and it was quite old

UPD: Sigh. I found quite annoying bug (?) in 1.8.1, if I connect removable device, Xorg just crashes...
UPD2: That was, again, my fault. I cleaned up all udev cruft and everything seems to work fine now

[foofoo]

anyone managed to get ctrl + alt + backspace aka "zap"

working with 1.8* xorg-servers ?

X.Org X Server 1.8.1

Section "InputClass"
Identifier "keyboard"
Option "XkbLayout" "pl"
Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
EndSection

I know this is an ancient post but I had a rough time finding the answer to this on any G-Forum. Had to resort to crawling the Ubuntu forums.. gasp!
In any case xorg 1.5 (?) and up (I'm on 1.10) doesn't do zap via ctrl + alt + backspace anymore, too dangerous for n00bz like me. And with various prescribed methods for restoring it (HAL/xorg.conf/xinitrc), your mileage may vary. It is now..

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ALT+SysRq+K

which on my system is right alt + print screen + k. Now, if y'all dead people who aren't reading this thread anymore will excuse me I'm going to merrily zap my xserver and log out..