intel graphics - X freezing frequently

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Yamakuzure · Post by **Yamakuzure** » Mon May 10, 2010 1:01 pm

If it is a kernel problem, why is it perfectly stable on my laptop? With the same chipset another user reported to have the freezing issue?

Are you using acpi and apm? Are you letting powerdevil and laptop-mode-tools control cpu-freq and video-out? Do you have freezes in simple DEs like twm or fvwm, too?

My kernel config:

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sed-notebook sed # egrep "(AGP|DRM).*=y" /usr/src/linux/.config
CONFIG_AGP=y
CONFIG_AGP_AMD64=y
CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y
CONFIG_DRM=y
CONFIG_DRM_KMS_HELPER=y
CONFIG_DRM_I915=y
CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS=y

Gh0str1d3r · Post by **Gh0str1d3r** » Mon May 10, 2010 1:36 pm

Yamakuzure wrote:If it is a kernel problem, why is it perfectly stable on my laptop? With the same chipset another user reported to have the freezing issue?

Are you using acpi and apm? Are you letting powerdevil and laptop-mode-tools control cpu-freq and video-out? Do you have freezes in simple DEs like twm or fvwm, too?

My kernel config:
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sed-notebook sed # egrep "(AGP|DRM).*=y" /usr/src/linux/.config
CONFIG_AGP=y
CONFIG_AGP_AMD64=y
CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y
CONFIG_DRM=y
CONFIG_DRM_KMS_HELPER=y
CONFIG_DRM_I915=y
CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS=y

That is my settings as well, only that I dont have the AMD64 agp activated (shouldnt you have either AMD or INTEL, but not both?)

I am using acpi and powerdevil. laptop-mode-tools is not installed and I even cant activate APM in my menuconfig (the menu entry is simply missing). Can you post your complete .config here so I can test it (only changing it to include my hardware drivers)? And please tell me which kernel you are exactly using.

Iguana8649 · Post by **Iguana8649** » Mon May 10, 2010 1:51 pm

Yamakuzure wrote:If it is a kernel problem, why is it perfectly stable on my laptop? With the same chipset another user reported to have the freezing issue?

-snip

I'm sorry, just to confirm, you're on amd64 right?

Post by **asturm** » Mon May 10, 2010 7:58 pm

So the conclusion is that it's a platform issue?

~amd64 here too were it is perfectly stable (didn't count dolphin tearing down the whole system).

Gh0str1d3r · Post by **Gh0str1d3r** » Mon May 10, 2010 8:09 pm

genstorm wrote:So the conclusion is that it's a platform issue?

~amd64 here too were it is perfectly stable (didn't count dolphin tearing down the whole system).

i am using ~amd64 too

Iguana8649 · Post by **Iguana8649** » Tue May 11, 2010 8:43 am

Then what else can it be?
Same packages version, same arch, same kernel. One has problems, the other not. Weird,

Off-topic, why you're using Compiz with KDE?

Gh0str1d3r · Post by **Gh0str1d3r** » Tue May 11, 2010 10:57 am

thats why I ask those with a stable system to post their .config here, so all of us experiencing freezes can test that.

Iguana8649 · Post by **Iguana8649** » Tue May 11, 2010 3:10 pm

I'm using Ubuntu, though I've Gentoo on a chroot for someday to swap.
Want my .config ? Better than nothing, I suppose?

Pastebin link above expires in a month.

WARNING: I'm on x86.

rahulthewall · Post by **rahulthewall** » Tue May 11, 2010 4:15 pm

There is a lot of corruption in graphics as well - firefox goes awry, window decorations go haywire as well ... definitely something with xorg-server-1.8 and the ensuing updates ... too lazy to downgrade for now. Hoping xorg-server-1.8.1 fixes it. Should be out any day now.

Gh0str1d3r · Post by **Gh0str1d3r** » Tue May 11, 2010 4:21 pm

I don't have any graphic bugs, only freezes..

Yamakuzure · Post by **Yamakuzure** » Wed May 12, 2010 3:23 pm

Gh0str1d3r wrote:(shouldnt you have either AMD or INTEL, but not both?)

Yes, you are right. No idea what activated it. As I do not have an athlon64/opteron north bridge, the setting does nothing on my laptop.

Gh0str1d3r wrote:I am using acpi and powerdevil. laptop-mode-tools is not installed and I even cant activate APM in my menuconfig (the menu entry is simply missing). Can you post your complete .config here so I can test it (only changing it to include my hardware drivers)? And please tell me which kernel you are exactly using.

Yes, ACPI + Powerdevil here, too.

My Config : http://pastebin.com/4UmWr23u
my System: Linux sed-notebook 2.6.33-gentoo-r2 #4 SMP Mon May 10 17:22:01 CEST 2010 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5670 @ 1.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

Post by **asturm** » Wed May 12, 2010 4:58 pm

Well, updating to 1.8.1 certainly didn't correct the xrandr issues - X still resets when trying to change screen res.

Gh0str1d3r · Post by **Gh0str1d3r** » Wed May 12, 2010 9:56 pm

thank you for posting your .configs, I compiled them and will report if they are stable for me as well.

Bakterie · Post by **Bakterie** » Thu May 13, 2010 10:25 am

I just want to add another data point to the discussion. I'm experiencing the exact same problem with freezes. The only solution has for me been to use a kernel < 2.6.32, currently 2.6.31-r10 works perfectly. I'm using intel driver 2.9.1 on an Intel 82G35. I had this problem on x86, but when my system drive recently died I installed amd64 instead, and the problem is the same, so at least for me x86 vs amd64 made no difference.

Post by **asturm** » Thu May 13, 2010 3:00 pm

The fun thing is, my experience with 2.6.31(+kms) was the exact opposite - I switched to 32 as soon as it got to rc2.

Gh0str1d3r · Post by **Gh0str1d3r** » Thu May 13, 2010 6:39 pm

Yamakuzure wrote:
Gh0str1d3r wrote:(shouldnt you have either AMD or INTEL, but not both?)
Yes, you are right. No idea what activated it. As I do not have an athlon64/opteron north bridge, the setting does nothing on my laptop.
Gh0str1d3r wrote:I am using acpi and powerdevil. laptop-mode-tools is not installed and I even cant activate APM in my menuconfig (the menu entry is simply missing). Can you post your complete .config here so I can test it (only changing it to include my hardware drivers)? And please tell me which kernel you are exactly using.
Yes, ACPI + Powerdevil here, too.

My Config : http://pastebin.com/4UmWr23u
my System: Linux sed-notebook 2.6.33-gentoo-r2 #4 SMP Mon May 10 17:22:01 CEST 2010 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5670 @ 1.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

this config runs almost stable for me. I could work a day before it crashed the first time. But still this is unacceptable.

Post by **asturm** » Thu May 13, 2010 7:05 pm

so, what was the difference? could you run a diff over both configs?

hephooey · Post by **hephooey** » Thu May 13, 2010 11:24 pm

I am also having trouble with the latest kernel/intel driver, now I stick with kernel 2.6.31 and xf86-video-intel 2.9.1, which is very stable, I can run my laptop for weeks. with the lastest kms kernel and xf86-video-intel (I have not try rc kernels and xf86-video-intel-9999). The system will halt randomly in a few hours. Since it is a fairly annoying bug and I have an working alternative, I have not tried to find a relible way to reproduce it. I have trouble with sleep using 2.6.32 and 2.6.33 in my T61. After a few days it will fail to sleep and the only key working is the power key. I am using a x86 system and xorg-server 1.7.7. I cannot test xorg-server 1.8 with xf86-video-intel 2.9.1 since it cannot compile.

Gh0str1d3r · Post by **Gh0str1d3r** » Fri May 14, 2010 10:07 am

ok, here is the diff output:

http://pastebin.com/Ef8dfTiM

but its really a lot, no chance to test one-by-one what made it more stable. The new .config belongs to kernel-2.6.33-gentoo-r2, my old .config to kernel-2.6.33-gentoo-r1.

npc · Post by **npc** » Sat May 15, 2010 10:41 pm

Hey guys, i've been facing the same trouble on my eeepc 1000ha. Ever since i upgraded to new and testing drivers and xorg while keeping my 2.6.30 kernel i was getting an awful lot of screen corruptions and wierd colorful frags and crazy black squares all over the screen (Xdamage complaints and all). So an upgrade to gentoo-sources-2.6.33-r2 fixed most of those things, but i started facing wierd lockups and segfaults while running opengl stuff.
I narrowed it down to a few significant situations in which i get hardlocks or segmentation faults from Xorg. I think it's a xorg issue with KVM like you guys have mentioned. I tried disabling KVM on my kernel config, but I couldnt start X and i'm too lazy to hack around xorg to make it run, but since you guys have already tested KVM and non-KVM setups i don't think that would be of any help.

I've disabled the xscreensaver, because whenever it goes fullscreen after a few seconds it hardlocks. I preview any opengl screensaver on the small preview box, hitting the button to make it go fullscreen results in trouble.
Running a simple opengl game on fullscreen in any resolution but my native 1024x600 results in a segfault and xorg quits, but i can restart it normally and repeat the procedure and get another segfault.
Running the same game on fullscreen and full resolution results in a hardlock.

my intel hardware: "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)"
xorg is 1.8.0
kernel is gentoo-sources-2.6.33-r2
xf86-video-intel is 2.11.0

So, I suppose the weak spot is mixing modesetting and 3d acceleration, if i keep off those things, the enviroment should be stable... i hope. I miss the jumping cow saver though.

I'm looking forward to testing xorg-server-1.8.1 or perhaps new xf86-video-intel drivers. Maybe that will fix those issues.

albright · Post by **albright** » Sat May 15, 2010 11:59 pm

FWIW, my lockups went away after downgrading xorg-server
1.8 to 1.7.7 - might be worth a try

npc · Post by **npc** » Sun May 16, 2010 12:00 am

Hey guys, it's worse than I thought. I used lxrandr to quickly change xorg screen resolution and do video out for presentations and such. Guess what, it results in hardlocks. This is a real problem since I use this eeepc for presentations at work.

Post by **asturm** » Sun May 16, 2010 12:31 am

Well yes, if you rely on a real stable Intel graphics system with all features turned on, you currently have to use xorg-server-1.7.7. Even with 1.8.1 there's no way of using xrandr reliably, regardless of X compositing enabled or not, same for hardware 3d acceleration.

For me there's no way back as I'm not going to re-migrate X to a pre-udev state. At least in case it doesn't get worse - running a plain office environment without doing any OpenGL stuff or using xrandr is possible right now without show-stoppers.

npc · Post by **npc** » Sun May 16, 2010 1:07 am

Yup, genstorm, i see you. Thanks for the tip, albright.

I've downgraded to 1.7.7 and it seems to work fine. I can't afford to rely on unstable 1.8.x, but i must say that the new non-fdi-hal-hell setup is much more simple and makes much more sense. I had already migrated to new xorg.conf.d style and i was hoping a downgrade wouldnt be necesary, but bummer, at least there are no hardlocks anymore... i hope.

I'm still looking forward to a xrandr-stable future release, I even saved the .confs for later reuse, hope it doesn't take much longer.

Thanks again folks.

rahulthewall · Post by **rahulthewall** » Sun May 16, 2010 9:52 am

Well, I updated to the xorg-server-1.8.1 and am currently rebuilding my kernel. The config posted above didn't help me much - it is vastly different from mine and reconfiguring my kernel based on that would be too much of a bother.

Freezes - I don't know. They are very random and I will report if there is one. However, there is definite graphic corruption. Websites like http://www.cricinfo.com don't render properly with firefox - yet they are fine with both konqueror and chromium. Can anyone point out as to why this might be the case?