TV card suggestion

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pmatos · Post by **pmatos** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:33 pm

Hi all,

I'd like to buy a TV card so that I can watch TV on my computer. It should support cable TV since it's what I have at home. It should enable me to record some episodes from the channel I wish and have a good quality and resolution. Any suggestions?

Best regards,

Paulo Matos

snorkel · Post by **snorkel** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 7:48 pm

I am using a hauppauge pvr 250/350 with mythtv and am very happy,
The latest drivers for this card are working very well.

chrispy · Post by **chrispy** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:12 am

I concur with the above. A PVR x50 will do all the encoding realtime, so it leaves your processor free for other stuff.
and the drivers are really well done

Dracnor · Post by **Dracnor** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 4:54 pm

I recently got a Hauppauge 190 and it is working beautifully. Slight load on processor...using tvtime. Going to try mythtv tonight so we'll see how that goes

pmatos · Post by **pmatos** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 5:12 pm

Incredible, it seems everyone has a hauppage.

I'll search for a Hauppage WinTV 350 and check how much it is.

Thanks,

Best regards,

duende · Post by **duende** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 8:35 pm

I have a Leadtek Winfast TV2000 XP Deluxe, and am quite happy with it. The remote control for it is great, i use it in linux to control tvtime, xmms, kradio, and mythtv.

punter · Post by **punter** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 8:53 pm

The difference between a WinTV PCI card and WinTV PVR:
is it only in the processor load, or does it effect the quality of capture as well ??

My point being:
Is it worth the extra money for PVR, when you already have idle processor begging to be used ?

Shane

chrispy · Post by **chrispy** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:40 pm

punter wrote:Is it worth the extra money for PVR, when you already have idle processor begging to be used ?

Shane

In that case, no. but how much cpu time can you allow to be used *just* to watch tv ?
with a realtime encoding card, you can record a show, watch a recorded movie, compile some stuff and have a p2p or ftp session running at the same time, and have NO frame drops whatsoever (on a decent p3)
with a non-encoding card, i doubt you can do anything that uses the cpu at the same time and have a perfectly recorded show.
But, to come back to my first line, if this box is dedicated to tv, you can go with a WinTV PCI. it's also a great card.

for the record, my tv card is not a hauppage, but a yuan mpg600 (it has an itv16c chip anyways)

walrus_55 · Post by **walrus_55** » Sat Nov 01, 2003 12:54 am

duende Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2003 6:35 am Post subject:

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I have a Leadtek Winfast TV2000 XP Deluxe, and am quite happy with it. The remote control for it is great, i use it in linux to control tvtime, xmms, kradio, and mythtv.

i have the same card i was just wordering how you managed to get the remote control working?

pmatos · Post by **pmatos** » Sat Nov 01, 2003 9:10 am

punter wrote:The difference between a WinTV PCI card and WinTV PVR:
is it only in the processor load, or does it effect the quality of capture as well ??
Shane

Nice, I didn't know that there was a difference between PVR and WinTV cards.

It seems I need a PVR since the card will be used in a production server.

heheh Does the remote control for PVR work in Linux?

Best regards,

punter · Post by **punter** » Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:13 pm

chrispy wrote:
punter wrote:Is it worth the extra money for PVR, when you already have idle processor begging to be used ?

Shane
In that case, no. but how much cpu time can you allow to be used *just* to watch tv ?
with a realtime encoding card, you can record a show, watch a recorded movie, compile some stuff and have a p2p or ftp session running at the same time, and have NO frame drops whatsoever (on a decent p3)

Hmm, it amazes me how differenct people take different approaches to tackle the same problem:
1. Person like you believes cpu must be at minimum usage and take the role of a manager in system, making sure user gets all he wants (having p2p, ftp and TV stream all at same time working to the fullest)

2. A person like me on the contrary believes the cpu is a slave, and I the manager. I prioritize tasks such that things that matter to me (ie TV stream) take place smoothly, and other which don't (ie ftp transfer) struggle through it. And hell if the cpu can't do it, we overclock it a bit

I'll go with whatever card I can get most discount on, but doubt with a 1.4GHz processor to have any problem. Plus I don't have high expectations, such as playing Q3 while encoding and recording a TV program in background !

ngrigg · Post by **ngrigg** » Sun Nov 02, 2003 6:58 pm

Will the ATI All In Wonder 128 Pro 32mb work in Linux or Gentoo for that matter?

Any one know where I can get the drivers for it?

thanks,

-nick

rrrkkkttt · Post by **rrrkkkttt** » Sun Nov 02, 2003 8:53 pm

can someone please post or point me to a n00b guide of installing the WinTV PVR250 ivtv drivers in gentoo?...

lbrtuk · Post by **lbrtuk** » Sun Nov 02, 2003 10:19 pm

ngrigg wrote:Will the ATI All In Wonder 128 Pro 32mb work in Linux or Gentoo for that matter?

Any one know where I can get the drivers for it?

http://gatos.sourceforge.net/

Although with that card you won't be able to do a/v stuff and 3d acceleration with the same driver. So it's one or the other it would seem.

From the site

All-in-Wonder Rage128 Pro 32mb (Rage128)
Should work fine with either 4.1.0 or 4.2.0 drivers. Both XvImage (YUV->RGB overlay and scaling) and TV-in should work fine. There were success reports with NTSC, PAL and SECAM standards. Video capture should work as well. At the moment video capture (km) is incompatible with DRI acceleration.

nailed · Post by **nailed** » Sun Nov 02, 2003 10:37 pm

rrrkkkttt wrote:can someone please post or point me to a n00b guide of installing the WinTV PVR250 ivtv drivers in gentoo?...

http://ivtv.sf.net/ and http://www.mythtv.org/ both have a lot of documentation for the PVR's

Nailed

rrrkkkttt · Post by **rrrkkkttt** » Sun Nov 02, 2003 11:57 pm

a lot of the documentation is based upon redhat and mandrake... there's only a few instructions for gentoo on mythtv.org... so in order to install the ivtv driver... would I have to write an ebuild for the ivtv tarball? If so then how would I go about doing it? or can I just follow the redhat instructions and hope that it also works in gentoo?....

nailed · Post by **nailed** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 2:51 am

rrrkkkttt wrote:a lot of the documentation is based upon redhat and mandrake... there's only a few instructions for gentoo on mythtv.org... so in order to install the ivtv driver... would I have to write an ebuild for the ivtv tarball? If so then how would I go about doing it? or can I just follow the redhat instructions and hope that it also works in gentoo?....

well,when i install software not found in gentoo's portage system (ivtv in this case,mythtv is indeed in the portage tree),i usually check the readme and install file in the cvs tree (with SF server's viewcvs.cgi but it's not available right now),they're helpfull enough i can install the software without any problems.

for mythtv,a simple emerge --deep mythtv mythtv-themes will do.

Nailed

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