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Official thread: "zen-sources" - Part 7

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Post by kernelOfTruth » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:14 pm

This is Part 7 of the gentoo-related zen-sources thread,

what is zen-sources ?
Zen-Sources is a collaborative effort of kernel hackers and enthusiasts to provide the best Linux kernel possible. We include code that is not yet found in the mainline kernel in an attempt to support the latest hardware, new features, security fixes, optimizations, etc. We are generally more up to date than your favorite distro's default kernel. If there is something you would like included in a future Zen kernel just ask and we will try to include it. Zen-Sources is NOT a "patchset" like many of you are used to. Zen-Sources is a Linux kernel. We do all of our development in a git repository, and most of the code we inluced gets pulled from other git repos. Since we rarely interact with patches these days, we are not going to go out of our way to provide "broken-out patches". The only patch you will get from us is a monolithic patch applied on top of some vanilla kernel base; we prefer you to use git. If you need a "broken-out patch" use gitweb or 'git diff'.
source http://www.zen-sources.org/content/about

questions and problems with zen-sources should be discussed at its official homepage: http://www.zen-sources.org/ in the section Forums


the installation instructions in this post are provided for your convenience to get you started with the git-provided approach

for a more detailed view on the ways to install zen-sources see: Installation-Instructions on zen-sources.org


in general you should take a look at zen-sources.org for more up-to-date information and instruction



checking the sources out

First Time

1) for zen-sources
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cd /usr/src
git clone git://zen-sources.org/zen/zen.git zen-sources
cd zen-sources
make menuconfig
2) for mmotm ("mmotm" is the "-mm tree of the moment" tree. The -mm patch pile, updated
usually more than once per day.) (see: http://lwn.net/Articles/311677/)
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cd /usr/src
git clone git://zen-sources.org/zen/mmotm.git mmotm
cd mmotm
make menuconfig
3) for zenrt-sources (doesn't exist yet / anymore)
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cd /usr/src
git clone git://zen-sources.org/zen/kernel/zenrt.git zen-sources
cd zen-sources
make menuconfig
creating a patch
example:

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git diff v2.6.24 v2.6.24-zen1 > 2.6.24-zen1.patch 
you can also do most of this stuff graphically (GUI !) with qgit:

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emerge qgit
or

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apt-cache search qgit
then

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sudo apt-get install qgit
(if that's the exact package name on apt/deb-based systems)

update sources (inside the directory)

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Update
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cd /usr/src/zen-sources
git pull 
(called "merging")

you are in the middle of a conflicted merge:
output could be:
git pull
Auto-merged .gitignore
Auto-merged MAINTAINERS
Auto-merged Makefile
CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in Makefile
Removed arch/mips/lasat/sysctl.h
Auto-merged drivers/ata/libata-scsi.c
Auto-merged drivers/char/Kconfig
Auto-merged drivers/char/drm/ati_pcigart.c
Auto-merged drivers/char/drm/drm.h
Auto-merged drivers/char/drm/drm_drv.c
CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in drivers/char/drm/drm_drv.c
...
Automatic merge failed; fix conflicts and then commit the result.
rmh3093 wrote: This usually happens when the branch you are trying to update has been rebased. The easiest way to get around this is to checkout a new copy of the branch. For example, if you are currently on the master branch you would do something like the following:
first try:

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git checkout -f && git pull
if that doesn't help, then:

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git reset --hard; git branch -M master master-old; git checkout -b master origin/master; git branch -D master-old; git checkout -f 
you need to change to another branch ?
example:

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# git checkout master-devel
if the branch doesn't exist in your directory (

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git branch
)
e.g. master-light, then enter

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git branch master-light origin/master-light && git checkout master-light
you want to check out a specific version?

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git checkout v2.6.25-rc5-zen0

speeding up merge (download) of zen-sources (during first time)
1) checkout the linux-2.6 branch of linus (git.eu.kernel.org or git.kernel.org)

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git clone git://git.eu.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git
or

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git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git
2) then merge both (e.g. it's in /usr/src/sources/linux-2.6)

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 git clone --reference /usr/src/sources/linux-2.6/ git://zen-sources.org/zen/zen.git zen-sources

*click* for a link to the Portage repo for zen kernel ebuilds



what branches of kernel-sources are there?
currently (december 2008), there are 2 different patchsets and branches used in those are (see):

( heads (zen-sources) ):
( heads (mmotm) ):
( heads (zenrt-sources) ): (not available right now)

- master (git checkout master) (e.g. v2.6.24-zen3)

sometime there's also master-new or similar for testing / rebasing purposes

the other "head"s are branches which are added to the main tree

the project's site can be reached over at:
www.zen-sources.org

the repo is reachable via:
http://git.zen-sources.org/?p=zen.git;a=summary (zen-sources)
and/or
http://git.zen-sources.org/?p=mmotm.git;a=summary (mmotm-sources)
and/or
http://zen-sources.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.c ... ;a=summary (zenrt-sources) (not available right now)

as of August 2008 there's a zenhardened-sources planned with no ETA known yet (as of August 2009, this is still pending / stalled)


for those who are interested there is other (non-kernel related) stuff on the zen git-server:
* THE portage overlay.... random ebuilds not found the Gentoo portage overlay...
* A C++ library for communicating with Drupal Services.
* A portage overlay with ebuilds relating to embedded systems
* A desktop agnostic gui for Obex Push Protocol and Obex File Transfer Protocol.
* Cross development toolchain creator for paludis.






update:
removed reiser4-repository links

update2:
added instruction on how to git-clone linus' repository and using that for reference to update to the zen-sources repo

update3:
updated adresses to the new overlay/servers

update4:
updated the git-addresses for zen-sources and mmotm (mm-sources) of the new zen-sources server

update5:
corrected zenmm -> mmotm
since the zenmm doesn't exist right now

update6:
added info about some other repositories
https://github.com/kernelOfTruth/ZFS-fo ... scCD-4.9.0
https://github.com/kernelOfTruth/pulsea ... zer-ladspa

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Post by Kollin » Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:05 am

Could you update the the zen-overlay with the latest.30-zen* please ? :roll:
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Post by cheater1034 » Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:52 pm

In git master and 2.6.30 now:
- Some nice value changes - some other tweaks to default settings, hrtick fix and enabled hrtick and double_tick
^^ will make a more responsive desktop :D

and i'm rebasing and updating master to .31-rc7

i don't have gentoo installed so i can't update the overlay.

it would be really great for someone to make a kernel overlay and include zen :(
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Post by Ant P. » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:22 pm

Here's hoping vanilla -rc7 doesn't crash trying to run my wifi any more...
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Post by AaronPPC » Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:10 am

I just booted into .31-rc7. It didn't take long either. These modern kernels boot fast!
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Post by ponciarello » Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:37 pm

thanx for the brainfuck scheduler, I'll try it on my gaming notebook at first release :)
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Post by pappy_mcfae » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:32 am

I'm running 2.6.30-zen4 on everything. It's even working with an Intel GPU. Will wonders ever cease! Keep up the good work!

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Post by ponciarello » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:34 pm

tried 2.6.30-bfs (with bfs 014) and it works fine :D
not able to find related kernel config option, tough.
there's just a little thing: I'm connecting with an internet usb key using wvdial, when I hang up the connection with ctrl-c I have an hard freeze :o
If you have any suggestion on how to debug it I'll be happy to do it (strace on wvdial doesn't work) :)
in the meantime I'll try the new 016 ;)
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Post by kernelOfTruth » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:18 pm

ponciarello wrote:thanx for the brainfuck scheduler, I'll try it on my gaming notebook at first release :)
I can't believe you guys are reviving the SD scheduler !

Miguel, Brandon, Ryan, ... you guys rock *big time* !

Thank you sooo much :D

@ponciarello:

how is its "performance" / interactivity compared to the CFS ?
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Post by cheater1034 » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:40 pm

kernelOfTruth wrote:
ponciarello wrote:thanx for the brainfuck scheduler, I'll try it on my gaming notebook at first release :)
I can't believe you guys are reviving the SD scheduler !

Miguel, Brandon, Ryan, ... you guys rock *big time* !

Thank you sooo much :D

@ponciarello:

how is its "performance" / interactivity compared to the CFS ?
It's con's re-write of SD - we don't write it :O

Performs better than SD and CFS?

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Post by kernelOfTruth » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:12 pm

cheater1034 wrote:
kernelOfTruth wrote:
ponciarello wrote:thanx for the brainfuck scheduler, I'll try it on my gaming notebook at first release :)
I can't believe you guys are reviving the SD scheduler !

Miguel, Brandon, Ryan, ... you guys rock *big time* !

Thank you sooo much :D

@ponciarello:

how is its "performance" / interactivity compared to the CFS ?
It's con's re-write of SD - we don't write it :O

Performs better than SD and CFS?

http://omploader.org/vMjdmaA/bootchart.png
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4541/pwned2.png
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5337/pwned3.png
really impressive ! :)

it seems to perform much better for lower numbers of workloads if I interpret the graphs correctly (?)

but according to your git and bfs release-numbers it's a work-in-progress so I'm confident it will outperform CFS in all cases soon :twisted:

BFS go go go ! :mrgreen:

Welcome Back Con ! :D
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Post by ponciarello » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:13 pm

cheater1034 wrote:t's con's re-write of SD - we don't write it :O
are you joking? con is back? :D

i'm so happy, i can't believe it :)

@kot: not much testing on my side for now but it works :mrgreen:
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Post by tranquilcool » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:34 pm

ponciarello wrote:tried 2.6.30-bfs (with bfs 014) and it works fine :D
not able to find related kernel config option, tough.
there's just a little thing: I'm connecting with an internet usb key using wvdial, when I hang up the connection with ctrl-c I have an hard freeze :o
If you have any suggestion on how to debug it I'll be happy to do it (strace on wvdial doesn't work) :)
in the meantime I'll try the new 016 ;)

how did you git checkout 2.6.30-bfs?
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Post by cheater1034 » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:52 pm

tranquilcool wrote:
ponciarello wrote:tried 2.6.30-bfs (with bfs 014) and it works fine :D
not able to find related kernel config option, tough.
there's just a little thing: I'm connecting with an internet usb key using wvdial, when I hang up the connection with ctrl-c I have an hard freeze :o
If you have any suggestion on how to debug it I'll be happy to do it (strace on wvdial doesn't work) :)
in the meantime I'll try the new 016 ;)

how did you git checkout 2.6.30-bfs?
git fetch; git checkout -b 2.6.30-bfs origin/master-2.6.30-bfs
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Post by ponciarello » Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:46 am

if you need a patch to apply to vanilla 2.6.30 you can, from the zen git folder

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git diff v2.6.30 origin/master-2.6.30-bfs | lzma -z -c > /tmp/2.6.30-zen-bfs.patch.lzma
then apply in the vanilla 2.6.30 tree with

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tar jxf linux-2.6.30.tar.bz2
mv linux-2.6.30 linux-2.6.30-zen-bfs
cd linux-2.6.30-zen-bfs
lzma -d -c /tmp/2.6.30-zen-bfs.patch.lzma | patch -p1
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Post by MageSlayer » Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:47 am

cheater1034 wrote: It's con's re-write of SD - we don't write it :O
It's interesting indeed. I can't find any mention of Con Kolivas on google though. Maybe your could post a link on bfs scheduler?
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Post by tranquilcool » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:48 am

ponciarello wrote:if you need a patch to apply to vanilla 2.6.30 you can, from the zen git folder

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git diff v2.6.30 origin/master-2.6.30-bfs | lzma -z -c > /tmp/2.6.30-zen-bfs.patch.lzma
then apply in the vanilla 2.6.30 tree with

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tar jxf linux-2.6.30.tar.bz2
mv linux-2.6.30 linux-2.6.30-zen-bfs
cd linux-2.6.30-zen-bfs
lzma -d -c /tmp/2.6.30-zen-bfs.patch.lzma | patch -p1
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Post by ponciarello » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:49 pm

as first impression on bfs (using 019 now), on my dual core notebook firefox has never been so responsive and fast (and I'm compiling kernel with -j4 :o ).
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Post by tranquilcool » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:50 pm

ponciarello wrote:as first impression on bfs (using 019 now), on my dual core notebook firefox has never been so responsive and fast (and I'm compiling kernel with -j4 :o ).

kinda cryptic. where do you get the bfs-019?
do you patch the kernel yourself?
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Post by kernelOfTruth » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:32 pm

tranquilcool wrote:
ponciarello wrote:as first impression on bfs (using 019 now), on my dual core notebook firefox has never been so responsive and fast (and I'm compiling kernel with -j4 :o ).

kinda cryptic. where do you get the bfs-019?
do you patch the kernel yourself?
thanks!
take a look at the heads of master-2.6.30-bfs: http://git.zen-sources.org/?p=zen.git;a ... 2.6.30-bfs

and then re-pull the overlay if you like what you see :wink:
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Post by cheater1034 » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:34 pm

Guys, afaik there is no documentation on bfs yet.

the patches can be found at ck.kolivas.org, or you can use zen which updates every time bfs does (bfs has had fixes every day since the first working patch)

And why would you patch from the git tree? just checkout master-2.6.30-bfs and use it
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Post by kernelOfTruth » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:39 pm

cheater1034 wrote:Guys, afaik there is no documentation on bfs yet.

the patches can be found at ck.kolivas.org, or you can use zen which updates every time bfs does (bfs has had fixes every day since the first working patch)

And why would you patch from the git tree? just checkout master-2.6.30-bfs and use it
thanks for the pointer cheater1034 !

here we go:
Ultra low latency and excellent desktop performance.
Not recommended for 4096 cpus.
so his goal Con's goal isn't to have a scheduler which scales well on every platform but solely supreme on desktop

nice !

finally a scheduler which cares about the desktop crowd again :D

It's sad that Linus doesn't want to include more than one cpu scheduler in the kernel. I can't understand why those guys more or less neglect desktop-related optimizations :(

I nevertheless hope that Linus will - one day in the near future - change his mind :P
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Post by darklegion » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:54 am

Wow, I'm impressed with BFS! Wine has a bug with it's quartz driver, that causes long delays when transitioning between field music to battle music with Oblivion.With CFS these delays are up to 10 seconds, and are usually 5+ seconds.With BFS, these are .5 seconds, at most, and are usually close to instant.
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Post by AaronPPC » Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:21 am

kernelOfTruth wrote:I can't understand why those guys more or less neglect desktop-related optimizations
This probably isn't the right thread to debate this, but I wouldn't say he is ignoring the desktop. It is just that the Linux world is bigger than the desktop. The Linux Foundation has corporate backers that who care about servers and routers and not the desktop. I don't mean to imply that there is some corporate conspiracy. My point is that Linus has more things to worry about and he seems very opposed to forking the kernel into "home" and "server" products.
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Post by MageSlayer » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:13 am

Guys, again

Can somebody post some REAL numbers on your experience?
Not super-puper boost/increase/decrease, but something that can be compared.
Interbench (http://users.on.net/~ckolivas/interbench/) numbers are ok, I think.
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