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Best upgrade method to Xserver1.5 with Hal and evdev

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Post by trubicoid » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:49 am

piponazo wrote:when I'm exiting of the system (Gnome desktop environment), the mouse and keyboard become freeze, and the the screen don't show information about the stopping process of the services. Always it is shown the desktop wallpaper until the system is shut down definitely.
I saw that couple of times with ati, but did not find it specially annoying. I think it is video-driver related. Do you use framebuffer for console in the kernel? You can try to switch it off.
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Post by trubicoid » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:52 am

Anon-E-moose wrote: I was getting that error earlier, it seems that when I upgraded to xorg 1.6.3 it put its xorg-server.conf in /etc/X11/dbus-1/system.d and
it really belongs in /etc/dbus-1/system.d. I copied it to where it belongs and it shut up about the Access Denied.
YMMV
yes, on both laptops I'm no more getting the error in the Xorg.log :)
but the mouse-synaptics problem with X taking 100% of cpu on the first laptop still exists :?
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Post by piponazo » Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:34 am

trubicoid wrote:
piponazo wrote:when I'm exiting of the system (Gnome desktop environment), the mouse and keyboard become freeze, and the the screen don't show information about the stopping process of the services. Always it is shown the desktop wallpaper until the system is shut down definitely.
I saw that couple of times with ati, but did not find it specially annoying. I think it is video-driver related. Do you use framebuffer for console in the kernel? You can try to switch it off.
Before the updating of xorg conf all runs correctly: first gnome session ends, then xorg, and after that in a tty I can saw all the messages related with the stopping of services. So I think that must be a problem with the new configuration with hal and evdev.
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Post by trubicoid » Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:01 am

piponazo wrote: So I think that must be a problem with the new configuration with hal and evdev.
well, it's just about input devices...
did you update nvidia-drivers after xorg-server? (maybe it is done automatically)
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Post by piponazo » Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:28 am

trubicoid wrote:
piponazo wrote: So I think that must be a problem with the new configuration with hal and evdev.
well, it's just about input devices...
did you update nvidia-drivers after xorg-server? (maybe it is done automatically)
I have installed the last stable version 180.60. Do you think that upgrading the drivers to 185.XX will solve the problem ?
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Post by trubicoid » Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:23 am

maybe...
but my point was to always emerge nvidia-drivers after updating xorg-server, even if it is still the same version of nvidia-drivers
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Post by piponazo » Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:42 am

Thanks trubicoid it seems that this was the problem. In one of my computers I simply recompile the nvidia driver 180.60. and in other I update to the 185.XX and now, the X session ends correctly and I can see the closing messages of the services in the TTY :wink: .

I would like to do another question. Once the Xorg 1.5.3 configuration with the fdi file and the evdev driver is running correctly, I tried to update to the Xorg. 1.6.3 but while the xorg session starts correctly and I can see the GDM screen, I can't handle neither the keyboard or mouse again.

There is any "trick" to change from xorg-server from 1.5.3 to 1.6.3 to solve this kind of problems ?
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Post by trubicoid » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:40 am

I guess it is the same story, you need to re-emerge all your x11-drivers after xorg upgrade including xf86-input-evdev;
btw. I think it is written as a message after xorg emerge

to find out what x11-drivers you need to re-emerge do:

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qlist -I -C x11-drivers
qlist is in portage-utils
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Post by d2_racing » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:45 pm

In fact, everytime that you update your xorg-server you need to recompile all of your x11-drivers.
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Post by piponazo » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:30 am

Thanks you very much for your suggests :D. Finally I have running correctly my gentoo system with xorg-server 1.6.3 and nvidia drivers 185.18.14 (with latest drivers I have problems in my laptop)
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Post by SandStar » Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:16 pm

I've upgraded from KDE 3.5.10 to KDE 4.2 following the gentoo guide. I believe that this also caused my Xorg to be updated and since then I'm having problems typing characters like ë ê é è
The keyboard seems to work perfectly but when I try an ë I just end up with "e

What I've done:
I'm using the default "10-x11-input.fdi" file
Removed all references to keyboard and mouse in xorg.conf
Recompiled all the input-drivers

But nothing helps. My xorg log is without errors and correctly reports my mouse and keyboard:

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(II) config/hal: Adding input device Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse                                                                        
(II) LoadModule: "evdev"                                                                                                                    

(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input//evdev_drv.so
(II) Module evdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 2.1.3
        Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
        ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.1
(**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: always reports core events
(**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/event3"
(II) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Found 4 mouse buttons
(II) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Found x and y relative axes
(II) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Configuring as mouse
(**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse" (type: MOUSE)
(II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: always reports core events
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event2"
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Found keys
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
my make.conf

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USE="hal andalotofothers"
INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev"
VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia"
hal fdi file

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<deviceinfo version="0.2">
  <device>
    <!-- FIXME: Support tablets too. -->
    <match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.mouse">
      <merge key="input.x11_driver" type="string">mouse</merge>
      <match key="/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer:system.kernel.name"
             string="Linux">
        <merge key="input.x11_driver" type="string">evdev</merge>
      </match>
    </match>

    <match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.touchpad">
      <merge key="input.x11_driver" type="string">mouse</merge>
      <match key="/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer:system.kernel.name"
             string="Linux">
        <merge key="input.x11_driver" type="string">evdev</merge>
      </match>
    </match>

    <match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.keys">
      <!-- If we're using Linux, we use evdev by default (falling back to
           keyboard otherwise). -->
      <merge key="input.x11_driver" type="string">keyboard</merge>
      <match key="/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer:system.kernel.name"
             string="Linux">
        <merge key="input.x11_driver" type="string">evdev</merge>
      </match>
    </match>
  </device>
</deviceinfo>
locale.gen

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#en_US ISO-8859-1
en_GB.UTF-8 UTF-8
en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
#ja_JP.EUC-JP EUC-JP
#ja_JP.UTF-8 UTF-8
#ja_JP EUC-JP
#en_HK ISO-8859-1
#en_PH ISO-8859-1
#de_DE ISO-8859-1
#de_DE@euro ISO-8859-15
#es_MX ISO-8859-1
#fa_IR UTF-8
#fr_FR ISO-8859-1
#fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15
#it_IT ISO-8859-1
Since I've got no serious errors anywhere I assume I messed up somewhere a little bit or forgot to recompile something...

edit:
on a funny side note: my windows session in vmware works perfectly with ë
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Post by d2_racing » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:51 pm

Hi, did you change anything inside /etc/conf.d/consolefont ?
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Post by SandStar » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:31 am

d2_racing wrote:Hi, did you change anything inside /etc/conf.d/consolefont ?
No, the only entries I have there are
CONSOLEFONT="default8x16"
#CONSOLETRANSLATION="8859-1_to_uni"
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Post by d2_racing » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:27 pm

Try to enable this line CONSOLETRANSLATION="8859-1_to_uni"

and then reboot.
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Post by SandStar » Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:48 pm

d2_racing wrote:Try to enable this line CONSOLETRANSLATION="8859-1_to_uni"

and then reboot.
I'm afraid it didn't help. Nothing seems to have changed.
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Post by SandStar » Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:45 am

nobody any idea?
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Post by d2_racing » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:51 pm

Hi, can you post this :

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# emerge --info
# cat /etc/locale.gen
# cat /etc/conf.d/consolefont
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Post by Neo2 » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:46 am

Try to manually specify the keyboard layout and model in the fdi file:

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fabio@gentoo-node1 ~ $ cat /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?> <!-- -*- SGML -*- -->
<match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.keyboard">
        <merge key="input.x11_driver" type="string">evdev</merge>
        <merge key="input.xkb.layout" type="string">it</merge>
        <merge key="input.xkb.model" type="string">microsoftmult</merge>
</match>
Evdev doesn't know which layout you're supposed to have, and defaults to "us". Since you are using en_GB and en_US locales, you may need to alter the keyboard model setting.
(II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: always reports core events
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event2"
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Found keys
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
If the problem doesn't show up in the console but only during KDE sessions, you may need to re-enter your settings in System Settings -> Language and Country:
-> Ensure that "State or region" is set correctly or click onto the blue "change..." link. In the right lower corner, select your language from one of the installed ones through "Add language" and make sure it appears as the first one in the list. Click apply.
-> From the left menu, click "Keyboard mappings" and select "Enable keyboard mappings", from the dropdown list select "Evdev-managed keyboard". On the active mappings, check that you have your layout specified (usually it defaults to "us"). Add/Remove the mappings you need by selecting them from the lists and using the green arrows at the top. Click apply.

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Post by SandStar » Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:58 am

ah! that got me pointed a the right direction :)

I've found that the problem is that indeed the keyboard layout is faulty. It works great if I set it manually with:

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setxkbmap us_intl
But specifying it in the fdi file changes nothing

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?> <!-- -*- SGML -*- -->
<deviceinfo version="0.2">
  <device>
    <match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.keyboard">
        <merge key="input.x11_driver" type="string">evdev</merge>
        <merge key="input.xkb.layout" type="string">us_intl</merge>
        <merge key="input.xkb.model" type="string">hp250x</merge>
    </match
  </device>
</deviceinfo>
I've currently sort of fixed it by adding the setxkbmap us_intl to my .xinitrc file.
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Post by VoidMage » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:23 pm

Most probably, either your fdi file has incorrect syntax,
or you're setting invalid values - there's a difference between
layout and variant, see /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.lst.
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Post by d2_racing » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:24 pm

You should post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, because I found that certains options can block evdev from working properly.
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Post by SandStar » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:35 pm

I'll look into the fdi syntax, there must be another user with a us intl keyboard...

Here's my Xorg.conf. I't has some funny comments since I've been using this one since mandrake 6.0, editting it when needed.

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# File generated by XFdrake.           

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of      
# this file.                                                            
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"
    # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
    # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
    # the X server to render fonts.                                          
   FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/misc/:unscaled"                             
   FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"                                     
   FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"                                       
   FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/corefonts/"                                 
   FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/freefont/"                                  
   FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/sharefonts/"                                
   FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/terminus/"                                  
   FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera/"                        
   FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/unifont/"                                   
   FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"                            
   FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"                           
   FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/artwiz/"                                    
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"                                
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"                                 
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"                            
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"                           
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Type1/"                                     
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Speedo/"                                    
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"                               
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"                              
    #FontPath "unix/:-1"                                                     
EndSection                                                                   

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option "AutoAddDevices" "on" 
    Option "AutoEnableDevices" "on" 
    Option "AllowEmptyInput" "on"   
    #DontZap # disable <Crtl><Alt><BS> (server abort)
    #AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work                                                                      
    #AllowEmptyInput                                                                                                                                        
    #DontZoom # disable <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)                                                                                     
EndSection                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                            
Section "Module"                                                                                                                                            
    Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension                                                                                                                 
    #Load "v4l" # Video for Linux                                                                                                                           
    Load "extmod"                                                                                                                                           
    #Load "type1"                                                                                                                                           
    Load "freetype"                                                                                                                                         
    Load "glx" # 3D layer                                                                                                                                   
EndSection                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                            
#Section "InputDevice"                                                                                                                                      
#    Identifier "Keyboard"                                                                                                                                  
#    Driver "kbd"                                                                                                                                           
#    Option "XkbModel" "pc105"                                                                                                                              
#    Option "XkbLayout" "us_intl"                                                                                                                           
#    Option "XkbOptions" ""                                                                                                                                 
#EndSection                                                                                                                                                 

#Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "Mouse"
#    Driver "mouse"    
#    Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
#    Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
#    Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"      
#    Option "Buttons" "7"             
#EndSection                           

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "monitor1"
    VendorName "HP"      
    ModelName "HP L1906" 
    HorizSync 30.0-83.0  
    VertRefresh 50.0-76.0
    Option "DPMS"        
    # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
    # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
    #ModeLine "1024x480"    65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494  563 -hsync -vsync
                                                                                        
    # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.                                      
    # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    #ModeLine "768x576"     50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595  630

    # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    #ModeLine "768x576"     63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590  616
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier "TwinView"
    VendorName "NVidia"
    BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic)"
    Driver "nvidia"
    Option "Coolbits" "1"
    Option "DPMS"
    #Option "MetaModes" "1152x864,1152x864; 1024x768,1024x768; 1024x768,NULL; 1152x864,NULL;
    Option "MetaModes" "1280x1024,1280x1024; 1152x864,1024x768; 1024x768,1024x768; 1024x768,NULL; 1152x864,NULL; 1280x1024,NULL"
    Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-83"
    Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "50-76"
    #Option "ConnectedMonitor" "crt,crt"
    #Option "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP-0,DFP-1"
    Option "UseDisplayDevice" "CRT-0,CRT-1"
    Option "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf"
    Option "TwinView"
EndSection
#####SCREEN LEFT######

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "screen1"
    Device "TwinView"
    Monitor "monitor1"
    DefaultColorDepth 24

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 8
        Modes "1152x864, 1280x1024"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 15
        Modes "1152x864, 1280x1024"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 16
        Modes "1152x864, 1280x1024"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 24
        Modes "1152x864, 1280x1024"
    EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "layout1"
    #InputDevice "Keyboard" "CoreKeyboard"
    #InputDevice "Mouse" "CorePointer"
    Screen "screen1"
EndSection
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Post by SandStar » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:01 pm

my xorg.log

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(II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: always reports core events
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event2"
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Found keys
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
(**) Option "xkb_variant" "altgr-intl"
(EE) Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm
using "/etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi" (only file in that dir)

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?> <!-- -*- SGML -*- -->                                             
<deviceinfo version="0.2">                                                                                    
  <device>                                                                                                    
    <match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.keymap">                                                   
      <append key="info.callouts.add" type="strlist">hal-setup-keymap</append>                                
    </match>                                                                                                  

    <match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.keys">
      <merge key="input.xkb.rules" type="string">base</merge>

      <!-- If we're using Linux, we use evdev by default (falling back to
           keyboard otherwise). -->
      <merge key="input.xkb.model" type="string">keyboard</merge>
      <match key="/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer:system.kernel.name"
             string="Linux">
        <merge key="input.xkb.model" type="string">evdev</merge>
      </match>

      <merge key="input.xkb.layout" type="string">us</merge>
      <merge key="input.xkb.variant" type="string">altgr-intl</merge>
    </match>
  </device>
</deviceinfo>
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Post by d2_racing » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:24 pm

Can you comment that and reboot your box :

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  Option "AutoAddDevices" "on" 
    Option "AutoEnableDevices" "on" 
    Option "AllowEmptyInput" "on"    
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Post by SandStar » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:46 pm

d2_racing wrote:Can you comment that and reboot your box :

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  Option "AutoAddDevices" "on" 
    Option "AutoEnableDevices" "on" 
    Option "AllowEmptyInput" "on"    
Just tried that. Although the "(EE) Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm" disappeared, nothing else changed.

lshal output:

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udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_KBD_port_logicaldev_input'
  info.addons.singleton = {'hald-addon-input'} (string list)
  info.capabilities = {'input', 'input.keyboard', 'input.keypad', 'input.keys', 'button'} (string list)
  info.category = 'input'  (string)
  info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_KBD_port'  (string)
  info.product = 'AT Translated Set 2 keyboard'  (string)
  info.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
  info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_KBD_port_logicaldev_input'  (string)
  input.device = '/dev/input/event2'  (string)
  input.originating_device = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_KBD_port'  (string)
  input.product = 'AT Translated Set 2 keyboard'  (string)
  input.x11_driver = 'evdev'  (string)
  input.xkb.layout = 'us'  (string)
  input.xkb.model = 'evdev'  (string)
  input.xkb.rules = 'base'  (string)
  input.xkb.variant = 'altgr-intl'  (string)
  linux.device_file = '/dev/input/event2'  (string)
  linux.hotplug_type = 2  (0x2)  (int)
  linux.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
  linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/class/input/input2/event2'  (string)
the 'altgr-intl' seems to work as my right-alt + 5 gives me €

And if I type "setxkbmap us_intl -variant altgr-intl" after login into KDE everything works perfect...
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