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Post by haarp » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:53 am

blueflame wrote:
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blueflame wrote:Anyone notice that Nautilus no longer preserves a file's modification date & time when you copy it? :x

I wish developers would not mess with established features and behaviors of such fundamental parts of Gnome. :evil:
yes this is a known bug and has already been reported upstream.
Anyone know if the fix for this upstream bug has been included in Gentoo Gnome 2.22?
Yes it has.
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Post by soka » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:07 am

blueflame wrote:
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EvaSDK wrote:
blueflame wrote:Anyone notice that Nautilus no longer preserves a file's modification date & time when you copy it? :x

I wish developers would not mess with established features and behaviors of such fundamental parts of Gnome. :evil:
yes this is a known bug and has already been reported upstream.
Anyone know if the fix for this upstream bug has been included in Gentoo Gnome 2.22?
Yes, a patch has been included since nautilus-2.22.3-r1.
http://bugs.gentoo.org/216391
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Post by blueflame » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:49 am

Ok, but seems like it's not really fixed yet in the underlying library (gvfs) for all file-systems. (The upstream Gnome bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=515777 is not closed yet.) I have also seen some reports that preservation of timestamps does not work with VFAT. Can anyone confirm or deny?

It would suck if copies from memory cards weren't fixed :(
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Post by EvaSDK » Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:03 pm

Guys, please don't forgot to read the upgrade guide instead of asking (excuse the word) dumb questions about blockers.

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/g ... pgrade.xml

about gnome-light, it wasn't on the upgrade list I gave to arches but as noted several times in the discussion it isn't necessary for upgrades anyway. We will provide one eventually.
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Post by sargek » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:37 pm

A sync last night resulted in a successful 2.22 build (-vuD world) with no issues and no blockers. I need to learn to be patient... :oops:
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Post by Clad in Sky » Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:17 am

haarp wrote:Meh. Only problems with Gnome 22 for me on AMD64.

3. Gnome now chooses seemingly randomly what mounted devices to put on the Desktop. Right now, I have a bind-mount that resides on my filesystem as a nice little icon on the Desktop. Completely useless, since it's not a drive, I don't have the rights to unmount it, and trying to unmount it tries to unmount / itself. Oh joy. On the other hand, a CD, an USB stick or another hard disk do not appear anymore. So it's literally the opposite of what it's supposed to do
Same on x86 for me.
Has anyone found any solution yet?
Gnome now automatically mounts and opens media such as CDs and USBsticks again, but that's not really what I want. I want it to show an icon for mounted drives. It does show the drive containing my home folder, but not the CD-drive nor usb-drives.
Didn't find anything about that in the upgrade guide.
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Post by soka » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:51 pm

Comment out any entry for the cdrom or usb stick you may have in /etc/fstab and let gnome-mount take care of them. It seems gnome only displays icons for the drives mounted under /media.
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Post by sargek » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:19 pm

soka wrote:Comment out any entry for the cdrom or usb stick you may have in /etc/fstab and let gnome-mount take care of them. It seems gnome only displays icons for the drives mounted under /media.
According to another thread, yes, this works, but if Gnome crashes and you must drop out of X, you will have to uncomment the fstab line and mount manually. Nautilus will not be available to mount if it's not running...no big deal, just something to deal with.
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Post by haarp » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:21 pm

soka wrote:Comment out any entry for the cdrom or usb stick you may have in /etc/fstab and let gnome-mount take care of them. It seems gnome only displays icons for the drives mounted under /media.
That's a workaround, not a fix.
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Post by thomasvk » Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:11 am

I had hoped that gnome-base/gnome-2.20.3 would depend on packages for gnome in the form of '>=2.20' and '<2.22', however it seems to depend on packages '>=2.20'. So if I pull in gnome-2.20.3, it doesn't really do anything useful. Does anyone know if there's some easy way to downgrade 2.22 to 2.20? I have had so much troubles with 2.22 now that I don't really want to use that. I'll file some bug reports maybe and if those are solved in some future release I'll try again. :?
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Post by MalleRIM » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:27 pm

There are two ways I can think of:
1. Manual masking in /etc/portage/package.mask
2. create an ebuild depending on gnome packages the way you described it and put it in an overlay.
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Post by OldTango » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:41 pm

haarp wrote:
soka wrote:Comment out any entry for the cdrom or usb stick you may have in /etc/fstab and let gnome-mount take care of them. It seems gnome only displays icons for the drives mounted under /media.
That's a workaround, not a fix.
Yes it is a work around but if I have any entry in my fstab for my optical cd drives absolutely nothing inserted in them can be mounted or used in gnome. So my cd drives ( /dev/hda and /dev/hdb ) become useless hardware.

When I can get then to mount media I also have random results with how media will be mounted and displayed on my desktop. This is inconsistent between drives using the exact same media disc. I have one disc I can mount in /dev/hdb, where gnome displays an icon and opens a folder view window. If I attempt to mount that same disc in /dev/hda this is what it get....

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Cannot mount volume.
Unable to mount the volume 'GRTMUPD_EN'.
	Detasils
	mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)


Unable to mount location
	DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message
   bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
All external cd drives and USB devices are working properly. So hardware using gnome-volume-manager appear to be working normally.

I am also getting random application crashes that I have never had in the past. This is also inconsistent, never the same app twice in a row when attempting to perform the same operation. So far apps that randomly crash are Sound Juicer, Gedit, Epiphany, Bluefish, and Gftp. These are the apps I use most of the time so who knows what else will break once I try to use it. The crashes appear to happen anytime I open a file, edit it, then try to save the file again.

It doesn't appear that this latest version of gnome is all that stable and maybe it shouldn't have been marked as such..... :x :x :x :x :x

I would very much like to revert back to the previous version myself..... :? :? :? :?
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Post by Kasumi_Ninja » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:54 pm

Leio wrote:
MM23 wrote:but yeah, back on topic... gnome 2.22 is pretty nice. i just wish the icon themes weren't so fucked up.
I have no idea what you are talking about here. What bug number? Do you have icon-naming-utils installed?
Some places have the wrong icons (e.g. 'Computer'). This doesn't happen with Gnome 22 in Debian, therefor I guess that there is a patch available to fix this problem.
Please add [solved] to the initial post's subject line if you feel your problem is resolved. Help answer the unanswered
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Post by MalleRIM » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:54 pm

theres always a delay of half a second between clicking on an application and the computer starting to load it. I have the feeling that gnome is waiting for the network, because applications take very long to start loading when there's no network available. Can this behaviour be turned off?
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Post by MalleRIM » Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:24 pm

anyone?
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Post by Oak » Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:59 pm

I installed Gnome-2.22 a couple of weeks ago along with compiz fusion. Everything looks stunning and all, but there are still 2 major problems:

First of all, gnome-screensaver failes to compile, causing xscreensaver to lock down my entire system. If I try to configure this through System->Preferences->Screensaver, everything hangs as well, forcing me to do a hard reboot.

The second problem is the keyboard layout problem when upgrading hal. This seems to be a well known problem, but it doesn't get as much attention as it should. Yesterday when I was upgrading my system, including xorg-server and hal, X refused to start. After changing driver in xorg.conf from kbd to evdev, X started, but the keyboard layout is a mess. I've been reading everything on this forums about this specific problem, and it seems that the only real solution is to downgrade xorg-server, its drivers and hal.

After doing my third hard reboot this evening, I had to write something here in frustration. I know that it's not really your fault though.

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root@newt $ emerge gnome-screensaver
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copy-theme-dialog.c: In function 'copy_theme_dialog_init':
copy-theme-dialog.c:195: error: 'S_IRWXU' undeclared (first use in this function)
copy-theme-dialog.c:195: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
copy-theme-dialog.c:195: error: for each function it appears in.)
make[3]: *** [copy-theme-dialog.o] Error 1
make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
mv -f .deps/gnome-screensaver-dialog.Tpo .deps/gnome-screensaver-dialog.Po
mv -f .deps/gnome-screensaver-preferences.Tpo .deps/gnome-screensaver-preferences.Po
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gnome-extra/gnome-screensaver-2.22.2/work/gnome-screensaver-2.22.2/src'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gnome-extra/gnome-screensaver-2.22.2/work/gnome-screensaver-2.22.2/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gnome-extra/gnome-screensaver-2.22.2/work/gnome-screensaver-2.22.2'
make: *** [all] Error 2
 * 
 * ERROR: gnome-extra/gnome-screensaver-2.22.2 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *               ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 *             environment, line 2684:  Called gnome2_src_compile
 *             environment, line 2045:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *       emake || die "compile failure"
 *  The die message:
 *   compile failure

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root@newt $ emerge --info
Portage 2.2_rc8 (default/linux/amd64/2008.0, gcc-4.3.1, glibc-2.8_p20080602-r0, 2.6.26-tuxonice x86_64)
=================================================================
System uname: Linux-2.6.26-tuxonice-x86_64-Intel-R-_Core-TM-2_CPU_6600_@_2.40GHz-with-glibc2.2.5
Timestamp of tree: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:00:01 +0000
app-shells/bash:     3.2_p39
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.1.6-r1
dev-lang/python:     2.5.2-r7
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
sys-apps/baselayout: 2.0.0
sys-apps/openrc:     0.2.5
sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.18.1-r3
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.62-r1
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.1-r1
sys-devel/binutils:  2.18-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4
sys-devel/libtool:   2.2.4
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.26
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64 ~amd64"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=core2 -msse3 -mfpmath=sse -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/kde/svn/env /usr/kde/svn/share/config /usr/kde/svn/shutdown /usr/share/config"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c /etc/udev/rules.d"
CXXFLAGS="-march=core2 -msse3 -mfpmath=sse -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="distlocks parallel-fetch preserve-libs sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://mirror.mdfnet.se/gentoo"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1"
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/portage/local/layman/enlightenment /usr/portage/local/layman/java-overlay /usr/portage/local/layman/desktop-effects /usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="acl amd64 berkdb bzip2 cli cracklib crypt cups dri fortran gdbm gpm iconv isdnlog midi mmx mmxext mudflap multilib ncurses nls nptl nptlonly openmp pam pcre perl pppd python readline reflection session spl sse sse2 sse3 ssl ssse3 sysfs tcpd unicode xorg zlib" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="dmix" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic auth_digest authn_anon authn_dbd authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cgi cgid dav dav_fs dav_lock dbd deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers ident imagemap include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation proxy proxy_ajp proxy_balancer proxy_connect proxy_http rewrite setenvif so speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia"
Unset:  CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, FFLAGS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS
GCC-4.3.3-r1 - march=core2, gentoo-sources-2.6.30-r2 SMP x86_64 @ Core2Duo 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM
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Post by Hypnos » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:05 am

One problem I am having with my fresh install is that upon resuming from hibernation, I can't unlock the gnome-keyring (of course many apps require it once NetworkManager puts me back online). No matter how many times I enter my keyring password, a fresh dialog pops up. I have to log out and log back in.

I used the workaround given in this related Ubuntu bug, to prevent the keyring from being locked upon hibernation in the first place.
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Post by Hypnos » Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:38 am

Another minor issue: I have to run '/usr/libexec/evolution-webcal <URL>' manually in order to ingest iCal files on the web.

Shouldn't evolution-webcal be launched automatically as a handler for these files? Only OpenOffice Writer catches these ...

Moreover, I haven't found a way to add these calendars directly into the Evolution interface. When I try to add a calendar under the category "On The Web" the entry dialog is that for a local calendar.

Any ideas?

EDIT: Ah, link handling works if the calendar URL starts with 'webcal://' rather than 'http://'. It's a little annoying, since Google Calendar .ics URLs are the latter. And, still doesn't explain why I can't just add a calendar with a URL through the Evolution interface ...
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Post by Leio » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:14 pm

Hypnos wrote:EDIT: Ah, link handling works if the calendar URL starts with 'webcal://' rather than 'http://'. It's a little annoying, since Google Calendar .ics URLs are the latter. And, still doesn't explain why I can't just add a calendar with a URL through the Evolution interface ...
File -> New -> Calendar -> Type: on the web -> fill details including URL.

For Google calendar there's "Type: Google", not sure how well that works in 2.22; 2.24 should have write support, but maybe 2.22 did too
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Post by Hypnos » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:23 pm

Leio,

Thanks for replying.

When go to create a new calendar and I choose the type as "On The Web" it gives me an additional checkbox for offline operation, but nothing else changes. There is still only a "Name" field, no URL field.

Not surprisingly, putting the URL in the Name field does not do anything.

(this is evolution-2.22.3.1 with evolution-data-server-2.22.3)
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Post by Leio » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:52 am

You have evolution-webcal package installed, right?
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Post by Hypnos » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:28 am

Leio wrote:You have evolution-webcal package installed, right?
Yes. Handling of "webcal://" URLs works. To handle Google calendars, I replace "http://" with "webcal://" and launch evolution-webcal from a terminal.
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Post by Leio » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:35 pm

Hypnos wrote:Yes. Handling of "webcal://" URLs works. To handle Google calendars, I replace "http://" with "webcal://" and launch evolution-webcal from a terminal.
Then I don't see why you wouldn't have an URL field in the new calendar dialog when selecting on the web type. For me it changes what fields there are when I select "on the web" and one of the appearing ones are URL - on two different machines
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Post by Hypnos » Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:37 am

I agree, it is an odd thing to not work since it's just a GUI. Just for kicks I rebuilt evolution, same problem.

The only calendar type that changes the entry fields in the dialog is "Google". Local, webcal, weather and CalDAV just give "Name" and add the checkbox for offline operatoin.

*shrug* I do have a workaround, so not a big deal -- just curious/annoying.
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Post by EvaSDK » Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:40 pm

that's because you disabled relevant plugins...
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