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[NEWS] OpenRC and baselayout 2 will reach ~arch soon

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[NEWS] OpenRC and baselayout 2 will reach ~arch soon

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Post by dberkholz » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:18 am

This forums thread is for discussion of the www.gentoo.org posting, "OpenRC and baselayout 2 will reach ~arch soon." Post your comments and suggestions here.
OpenRC, the replacement for Gentoo's current services system (known as baselayout), will soon reach ~arch on all platforms. It replaces the previous bash-only rc system in baselayout with an rc system that has a C-based core and uses only POSIX-compliant shell code.

OpenRC runs natively on a wide variety of systems. Out of the box, it's compatible with Gentoo Linux, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Embedded Gentoo, and Gentoo VServers. It also works with FreeBSD and NetBSD and, once some installation problems get fixed, will be added to their package repositories, ports and pkgsrc.

Before upgrading, read the OpenRC Migration Guide so you update your system properly once OpenRC and baselayout 2 are installed.
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Post by UberLord » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:44 am

OpenRC is not yet in pkgsrc or ports :)
I'll be putting it into pkgsrc-wip myself (hopefully next week) after a few installation issues have been ironed out. Same issues affecting me not requesting it in FreeBSD ports either.
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Post by Hwoarang » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:10 pm

I ve emerged baselayout-2.0. Everything works perfect and the boot sequence is so much faster :)

Great Job :)
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Post by sian » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:51 pm

Me too. Good job and nice howto
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Post by nixnut » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:24 pm

moved some posts to openrc support thread
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Post by NathanZachary » Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:58 pm

Since the article states that OpenRC is the new standard, will all new installations have baselayout-2 and OpenRC by default? Is it something that is part of the stage tarball, or the installation medium? Meaning, will it be the default for the 2007.0 releases, or will it be included in the 2008.0 releases / new stage tarballs?
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Post by 2welly » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:06 pm

i wanna know that too, if it's in future a standard. For me Baselayout-2 and openRC works fine ;-)
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Post by Dralnu » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:34 am

So, OpenRC is basically a version of baselayout done in C rather than bash?
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Post by <3 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:35 am

might give these two a shot once i gets marked ~amd64. It's about time we got a replacement for the old baselayout. Is it possible to revert back if something doesn't work?
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Post by lightseeker » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:55 am

Hi!
I've just synced and OpenRC and baselayout-2 have hit the tree (~amd64 here). It took me five minutes to merge the changes, rebooted and everything is working fine. :D

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Post by dony » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:44 am

Hi,

great HOWTO - takes 5 Min. to work ..... (~x86)

I use rc_parallel="YES" in /etc/rc.conf --> after initializing the kernel my Xserver starts immediately ... WOW the fastet boot
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Post by 2welly » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:26 pm

that's right, my system start runs fast and smooth on ~amd64.
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Post by ToeiRei » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:36 pm

running smoothly since 2.0 was masked and the info was just some lines on IRC :)
but the speed is amazing

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Post by Unbob » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:06 pm

Great improvement. Thanks a lot to everyone involved. :D
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Post by pilla » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:00 pm

Please don't post support questions here. Everything support related should go [topic=688186]here[/topic].

Posts from people that insist posting support questions in this thread will be dustbinned.
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Post by kostja » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:17 am

It seems to work fine here. But be warned, it will delete you /etc/conf.d/net file. :evil:

Good, that I had a backup.

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Post by theDOC_23 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:16 pm

kostja wrote:It seems to work fine here. But be warned, it will delete you /etc/conf.d/net file. :evil:

Good, that I had a backup.
oh yes it does. luckily i didn't just reboot after finishing dispatch-conf. i had a backup buried somewhere too. would have been a pain in the a** to set up pppoe/inet again, without beeing able to look it up in the inet. the net.example file was also moved...
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Post by LoSeR_5150 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:02 pm

Working great here. One quick question ( I don't think this is a "support" question but someone correct me if I'm wrong) On my x86 machine it backed up my net configuration as net.save, but it didn't do this on my amd64 box. Does anyone know of why this behavior would occur?
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Post by SlitherX » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:33 pm

i am already using openrc in multiple vservers. it runs perfect
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Post by <3 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:58 pm

my migration was successful although the boot time isn't that much different.
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Post by uzz75 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:51 am

There is no splash after upgrade....
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Post by i92guboj » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:23 am

<3 wrote:my migration was successful although the boot time isn't that much different.
I feel exactly the same. I really wonder what all the noise is about. This just confirms what we all already know: the placebo effect do exist. :P Or maybe it is just that you only notice some improvement if your boot time is >3 minutes or so.

I can't say if it's indeed faster or slower, but whatever it is, it's nothing radical like some people around says. Maybe people using xdm will notice something... I don't know since I boot on command line. Just a guess.
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Post by Paapaa » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:23 am

How about some actual boot time results? Like in seconds? (Of course verifying that same services are started...)
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Post by uzz75 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:10 am

baselayout-1 ; no parallel : 82 sec.
baselayout-1 ; parallel : 70 sec.
baselayout-2;parallel : 56 sec.

I have sda2,sda3,sdb1 on reiserfs and it's take a lot of time during the boot sequence.(from grub about 30sec)

kernel just need about 10sec for load itself, detect all HW and just passe to init script.(from grub 10sec)

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also i use readahead but it don't improve a lot of time before gdm will start, the benefit is after readahead start everything it's faster, login via gdm it's also fast, drawing of gnome desktop have some improvement from readahead becase many lib and file are just in cache.

grub and kernel load to init : 11 sec
init to finish fsck 26 sec
fsck to finish readehaed 10 sec
readahead to gdm 11 sec
gdm to loging and finish draw desktop about 1-2 sec


rc-update show boot
fsck | boot
mtab | boot
root | boot
swap | boot
keymaps | boot
dmcrypt | boot
microcode_ctl | boot
localmount | boot
consolefont | boot
modules | boot
hostname | boot
net.lo | boot
procfs | boot
sysctl | boot
urandom | boot
termencoding | boot
readahead-list-early | boot
hwclock | boot
bootmisc | boot
device-mapper | boot
readahead-list | boot


uzzmaster ~ # rc-update show default
nfs | default
tor | default
xdm | default
xfs | default
ntp-client | default
hald | default
sshd | default
keymaps | default
distccd | default
acpid | default
dhcpd | default
cupsd | default
knock | default
local | default
named | default
mysql | default
samba | default
ulogd | default
fail2ban | default
vixie-cron | default
iptables | default
syslog-ng | default
courier-imapd-ssl | default
lm_sensors | default
consolekit | default
esound | default
courier-authlib | default
hdparm | default
net.eth0 | default
hddtemp | default
smartd | default
svscan | default
netmount | default
vmware | default
numlock | default
apache2 | default
apcupsd | default
cpufrequtils | default
bluetooth | default
portmap | default
alsasound | default
privoxy | default


mount
rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
/dev/root on / type reiserfs (rw,noatime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,nosuid)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec)
none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
rc-svcdir on /lib64/rc/init.d type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
/dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw,noatime)
/dev/sda3 on /home type reiserfs (rw,noatime)
/dev/sdb1 on /mnt/dati type reiserfs (rw,noatime)
none on /var/tmp/portage type tmpfs (rw,size=1024M,uid=250,gid=250)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,devmode=0664,devgid=85)
nfsd on /proc/fs/nfsd type nfsd (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
none on /proc/fs/vmblock/mountPoint type vmblock (rw)
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