Xpdfkesuari wrote:I hate apps that don't follow the HIG (because the only non-GTK2-based gui apps I run with any regularity are Xmms (GTK2ify it already), Thunderbird (though I switch between it and Evolution randomly, I love IMAP) and xpdf (Acroread doesn't support scrollwheels and ggv on my computer is broken&it'll only open one window at a time and jumpscrolls). Galeon has on-and-off problems with this, so I think I'm going to have another look at Epiphany.
GPdf RhythmboxGpdf isn't there yet (doesn't seem to support anti-aliasing fonts, which makes many look incredibly ugly), and it has jumpscroll too with the scrollwheel, so I'll still be using Xpdf for a while. (I'm not complaining about Xpdf---it supports everything I want apart from not being GTK2, but that's a plus, not a requirement (if it's a choice between the motify thing and bad features, motif wins).
Yup, it's very similiar to KDE's kconfig in this regard also, as they support multiple backends. HOWEVER, the only stable implementation is the directory structure.kesuari wrote:I thought Gconf was more like an API: Anyone can write a new backend and a new frontend for it, so that you could, for example, make it an SQL database if you wanted.shm wrote:The latter..helmers wrote:: Is GCONF a database or a directory structure with real files in it?
They use KDE, and were confused by the lack of cartoonish icons and heaps of options?charlieg wrote:It's interesting how there has been 517 views and only 69 votes. Assuming the forum software is half-intelligent and views are unique to each computer/user combination, I wonder why so many people haven't voted?
I haven't voted since (like I said) don¨t use Gnome and therefore cant really comment.Lovechild wrote:They use KDE, and were confused by the lack of cartoonish icons and heaps of options?charlieg wrote:It's interesting how there has been 517 views and only 69 votes. Assuming the forum software is half-intelligent and views are unique to each computer/user combination, I wonder why so many people haven't voted?
or people just return to read the thread replies?
Nup, that didn't help, but I've been having problems with other GTK apps so I'm emerge --deep -u world on stable rather than ~ (after doing that, should I emerge -e world to get everything compiled against those libs?). Hopefully that will help.sindre wrote:Try running it as root, see if it crashes then. I had that problem, but I don't remember the remedy. I'm successfully using net-rhythmbox btw.kesuari wrote:It still crashes on startup for me (before it's shown its gui, even).
I don't think that will help. And emerge -e world simply re-emerges all installed packages. Whilst it seems logical that this will cause all your applications to be re-emerged, you'll find it emerging lots of extra stuff as it downgrades lots of things you don't want downgrading. Add to that the vast amount of time it will take (days? weeks?) and you'll find it's a lots more trouble than it's worth.kesuari wrote:I've been having problems with other GTK apps so I'm emerge --deep -u world on stable rather than ~ (after doing that, should I emerge -e world to get everything compiled against those libs?). Hopefully that will help.
And anyway, after emerging stable stuff on the dependency path to gnome-terminal hasn't stopped it from crashing when I try and edit its settings, so I don't think it's the problem. Sigh. Maybe I need to either start from scratch---not fun---or change distros---not fun.charlieg wrote:I don't think that will help. And emerge -e world simply re-emerges all installed packages. Whilst it seems logical that this will cause all your applications to be re-emerged, you'll find it emerging lots of extra stuff as it downgrades lots of things you don't want downgrading. Add to that the vast amount of time it will take (days? weeks?) and you'll find it's a lots more trouble than it's worth.kesuari wrote:I've been having problems with other GTK apps so I'm emerge --deep -u world on stable rather than ~ (after doing that, should I emerge -e world to get everything compiled against those libs?). Hopefully that will help.
Here's a screenshot found in the latest KDE-CVS-Digest:shm wrote:Yup, one is already being developed that's gonna be released with KDE 3.2. It's called kconfedit. It's in kdenonbeta in kde-cvs.telex4 wrote:Gconf is an excellent idea... it'd be cool if KDE could get a GUI tool like gconf-editor to make editing all of those kconfig files a little easier
Cool! Thanks for the great idea, GNOME!sunblade wrote:Here's a screenshot found in the latest KDE-CVS-Digest:shm wrote:Yup, one is already being developed that's gonna be released with KDE 3.2. It's called kconfedit. It's in kdenonbeta in kde-cvs.
http://www.automatix.de/~zack/kconfedit.png
Well, the main difference:charlieg wrote:I would find it hilarious if that ever caught on. After all the bigotry that Gnome advocates have had to take from KDE zealots for GConf and the 'simplification' of application interfaces, it would be so ironic for KDE to follow down exactly the same path.
No.. they have different goals. Kconfedit is mostly made for system adminstatators to load/save/deny access/undo/redo sets of config files on the fly. Users should never have to mess with it, unlike gconf.charlieg wrote:I would find it hilarious if that ever caught on. After all the bigotry that Gnome advocates have had to take from KDE zealots for GConf and the 'simplification' of application interfaces, it would be so ironic for KDE to follow down exactly the same path.
I've since discovered MusicBox, a ROX app (and so it's GTK2, and simple). It occasionally crashes, but being GTK2 more than makes up for this. You can see a screenshot at its website or on my website.Toth wrote:I am using Rhythmbox 0.5.0 and it is quite fast and stable.
I recommend either looking at quark (which, as I understand it, simply sits in your system tray) or using something like RhythmBox or MusicBox, modifying it if necessary so that external applications can control them, use Sawfish as your window manager, add some buttons that control your music player to the titlebar, and run it in windowshade mode :)MK wrote:I'm also looking for a nice gtk2 player, and I don't like RhythmBox or MusicBox, and certainly not gstreamer, their all "huge"..
Users should never have to mess with gconf, either. Things that can only be set via gconf are advanced settings and tweaks that never have to be changed from the default.shm wrote:No.. they have different goals. Kconfedit is mostly made for system adminstatators to load/save/deny access/undo/redo sets of config files on the fly. Users should never have to mess with it, unlike gconf.charlieg wrote:I would find it hilarious if that ever caught on. After all the bigotry that Gnome advocates have had to take from KDE zealots for GConf and the 'simplification' of application interfaces, it would be so ironic for KDE to follow down exactly the same path.
