[NEWS] Discuss news announcements on the forums

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dberkholz · Post by **dberkholz** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:12 am

This forums thread is for discussion of the www.gentoo.org posting, "Discuss news announcements on the forums." Post your comments and suggestions here.

Got opinions? Starting now, all news announcements will carry a "Discuss this!" link at the bottom that will send you to a forums thread dedicated to that news. Share your thoughts and ideas on news with the rest of the Gentoo community.

yoshi314 · Post by **yoshi314** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:59 am

yes! this is something i felt was missing. a step in a good direction imho.

let's just hope that user input is actually taken into consideration. otherwise it would be a feature with little purpose.

jancici · Post by **jancici** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:11 pm

yes, I think it is good idea too.

d2_racing · Post by **d2_racing** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:36 pm

yoshi314 wrote:let's just hope that user input is actually taken into consideration. otherwise it would be a feature with little purpose.

By the way thanks to update the site

Since it's about the news, is there any information about the new 2008.0 profile ? Like, what's, can we expect that GCC 4.2 or 4.3 will be in it....

There is little information about that right now.

Thanks.

treffer · Post by **treffer** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:37 pm

Cool idea.....

Would be cool if you could add a comment funktion to the gentoo installation documentation, too. This might avoid some Forum posts and could build up a foundation for documentation improvements.

Anyway, Gentoo is on a fast-forward right now, keep it this way!

calle2003 · Post by **calle2003** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:42 pm

Excellent idea. This will create more interaction in the community concerning current topics.

Hopefully Gentoo will come back on track!

steveL · Post by **steveL** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:20 pm

Wow I didn't realise that was automated: excellent idea!

fcicq · Post by **fcicq** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:36 pm

Good idea.

punkmikey · Post by **punkmikey** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:45 pm

Great idea. This will hopefully mean that the devs/trustee's/foundation/whoever can get a better idea of what everyone thinks. I'd like to see this for the monthly news letter as well if possible?

I just hope any (sensible) negative responses will be taken note of and not ignored.

V-Li · Post by **V-Li** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:35 pm

d2_racing wrote:
yoshi314 wrote:let's just hope that user input is actually taken into consideration. otherwise it would be a feature with little purpose.
Since it's about the news, is there any information about the new 2008.0 profile ? Like, what's, can we expect that GCC 4.2 or 4.3 will be in it....

Not speaking for release team, but I don't think a drastic GCC change will be done in such a short time. 4.2 is relatively nice regarding breaking stuff, but all fixed packags have to hit the stable tree and need to mature more....so no 4.2 in the next release. But you will see KDE 3.5.8 in it (already stable on amd64, x86 to follow tomorrow).

V-Li · Post by **V-Li** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:37 pm

punkmikey wrote:Great idea. This will hopefully mean that the devs/trustee's/foundation/whoever can get a better idea of what everyone thinks. I'd like to see this for the monthly news letter as well if possible?

I just hope any (sensible) negative responses will be taken note of and not ignored.

People really try to, but in some cases lacking man power is the limitation. There has always been the gwn/gmn-feedback address, but I am sure an official thread will be installed for the next release of the GMN.

iplayfast · Post by **iplayfast** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:00 pm

I had despaired of Gentoo lasting another year, as a useful distro.

I'm glad to see that things are happening.
Thank you for taking the time.

yoshi314 · Post by **yoshi314** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:26 pm

Not speaking for release team, but I don't think a drastic GCC change will be done in such a short time. 4.2 is relatively nice regarding breaking stuff

gcc 4.3 is supposedly more friendly - meaning less packages will need patches to build, but that's just what i heard so i can't really support that opinion.

anyway it's too early to use 4.3 or 4.2 for a stage.

V-Li · Post by **V-Li** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:41 pm

yoshi314 wrote:
Not speaking for release team, but I don't think a drastic GCC change will be done in such a short time. 4.2 is relatively nice regarding breaking stuff
gcc 4.3 is supposedly more friendly - meaning less packages will need patches to build, but that's just what i heard so i can't really support that opinion.

A GCC porter for Gentoo says differently...and I believe him a lot.

http://psykil.livejournal.com/321090.html:

This version ranks near the high end of the disruptive scale, unlike the 4.2 upgrade, with many packages needing patching to build.

luqas · Post by **luqas** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:48 pm

I think this is a great idea, also you think you could put them in their own sub-forum and block new posts from being created from normal users? I think this would help people find old news topics and information easier.

BlackEdder · Post by **BlackEdder** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:54 pm

It would be nice if the forum post actually contained the news announcement, instead of only a link. That way you don't have to go out of your way to read what the announcement actually was about.

psomas · Post by **psomas** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:59 pm

BlackEdder wrote:It would be nice if the forum post actually contained the news announcement, instead of only a link. That way you don't have to go out of your way to read what the announcement actually was about.

+1

but,still it's very good that we can discuss the official news here...
thx!...

timeBandit · Post by **timeBandit** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:05 pm

Excellent idea. Thanks and keep up the good work.

alveraan · Post by **alveraan** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:20 pm

This is a great idea. Thanks to all the people working to get gentoo going again. The progress has been excellent.

infinity9 · Post by **infinity9** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:41 pm

i approve of this idea.

96140 · Post by **96140** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:29 pm

Paapaa · Post by **Paapaa** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:29 pm

dberkholz wrote:This forums thread is for discussion of the www.gentoo.org posting, "Discuss news announcements on the forums." Post your comments and suggestions here.

Paapaa wrote:Let every news item on front page have a link to forum thread on a new Gentoo news forum.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-62 ... ight-.html

Now I feel proud of myself

Anyway, very good idea and thanks for implementing it! I'd actually create a separate forum for these threads. A forum where nobody could create new threads.

dberkholz · Post by **dberkholz** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:30 pm

BlackEdder wrote:It would be nice if the forum post actually contained the news announcement, instead of only a link. That way you don't have to go out of your way to read what the announcement actually was about.

Done.

Unne · Post by **Unne** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:51 pm

I agree with everyone, discussion for announcements is a really good idea.

nightmorph wrote:
treffer wrote:Would be cool if you could add a comment funktion to the gentoo installation documentation, too. This might avoid some Forum posts and could build up a foundation for documentation improvements.
No. Our documentation is not a wiki, nor do we want our guides to be cluttered like gentoo-wiki.com. If you have problems following the documentation, go to these forums for community support. If you see a problem with the documentation or have suggestions for it, open a bug. Comment pages for the documentation are useless.

I think the official PHP documentation "user notes" can be an example of where discussion in documentation serve a very good purpose and are very effective. People use them to point out quirks and gotchas (not bugs), or elaborations.

But the PHP documentation comments are heavily moderated, which is pretty much a necessity. I'm not sure if Gentoo has the resources to do that level of moderation.

Workaphobia · Post by **Workaphobia** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:14 pm

Excellent! PR's really done a great job over the past week. This new rate of front-page posts does wonders for a lot of people's perceptions of gentoo, and an automated discussion thread is a great way to throw more fuel in the fire.

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