KDE 4.0 FINAL ist out now!

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michel7 · Post by **michel7** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:06 pm

Release announcement: http://kde.org/announcements/4.0/
Download: http://kde.org/info/4.0.php

Personally i would like to thank all developers who made this release possible!

Let_Me_Be · Post by **Let_Me_Be** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:24 pm

Who cares when it's not going to appear in portage: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-639443.html

Edward Nigma · Post by **Edward Nigma** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:31 pm

Let_Me_Be wrote:Who cares when it's not going to appear in portage: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-639443.html

I think there are a lot of rumors!

Nobody from the Gentoo project confirmed that.
Or am i wrong?

micko · Post by **micko** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:31 pm

Let_Me_Be wrote:Who cares when it's not going to appear in portage: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-639443.html

What's so difficult in using the overlays?

Let_Me_Be · Post by **Let_Me_Be** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:36 pm

Edward Nigma wrote:
Let_Me_Be wrote:Who cares when it's not going to appear in portage: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-639443.html
I think there are a lot of rumors!

Nobody from the Gentoo project confirmed that.
Or am i wrong?

You are wrong.

TNorthover · Post by **TNorthover** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:40 pm

Let_Me_Be wrote:You are wrong.

And you are uninformative.

Let_Me_Be · Post by **Let_Me_Be** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:42 pm

OMG, i already posted the topic. A dev clearly says that the KDE 4.0 is not goint to appear in portage.

TNorthover · Post by **TNorthover** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:47 pm

Let_Me_Be wrote:OMG, i already posted the topic. A dev clearly says that the KDE 4.0 is not goint to appear in portage.

Two posts by developers in that thread. The first (the only one you knew about) argues why it shouldn't be put in portage; it reads like a developer expressing his opinion in the forum rather than an announcement.

The second (posted a couple of minutes ago) contradicts you. And looks like it's been written by an actual kde maintainer. Still only borderline official though.

Let_Me_Be · Post by **Let_Me_Be** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:53 pm

I just read it. I don't understand why the first developer didn't post the true info.

TNorthover · Post by **TNorthover** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:05 pm

Let_Me_Be wrote:I just read it. I don't understand why the first developer didn't post the true info.

He probably wasn't even aware of it. If he's working on a different part of gentoo there's no particular reason for him to read every message about kde.

Voltago · Post by **Voltago** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:41 pm

Anyway, what's wrong with

Code: Select all

layman -a kde

if you want to test it?

djpearman · Post by **djpearman** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:08 pm

Let_Me_Be wrote:Who cares when it's not going to appear in portage: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-639443.html

As far as I can tell, the message was that KDE 4.0.0 may not appear in portage, not that KDE4 wouldn't. That doesn't include KDE 4.0.1 or higher. At the moment, KDE4 is by no means complete, and it probably never will be complete, since the FOSS approach to software development is one of continual, incremental improvement. Thus, KDE 4.0.0 represents the first step in bringing KDE4 to the desktop and the 4.x.x versions will represent the improvements made based on the redeveloped KDE libraries. As such, some of the official KDE4 releases may be omitted in portage, in the same way many previous KDE 3.x.x releases have never been marked 'stable'. At some point, however, I'm sure we'll all be pleased to discover a KDE 4.x.x release in the official portage tree - I will anyhow. Just think back and compare KDE 3.5.7 to 3.4.x or 3.0.0 and you will see what I mean.

Phoenix591 · Post by **Phoenix591** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:18 am

KDE 4.0.0 WILL be in Portage. At least that is what the current channel topic in #gentoo-kde on irc.freenode.net says.

avieth · Post by **avieth** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:08 am

I'm waiting for split ebuilds.

beso_1717 · Post by **beso_1717** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:17 pm

the main thing that would make me upgrade is that i'd be finally able to get rid of using 2 versions of qt... the old qt3 for actual kde3.5.8 and kde4 for all the apps that already support it. also, xine, ffmpeg and other multimedia packages seem to start developing for kde4 and so we could expect the old qt3 to be able to be removed. so this is more than legitimate reason to start using kde4. as for the apps, i can tell: they'll be ready when they'll be ready. i'd be very positive to using a kde4 overlay and not having it into portage official tree with the slot option, so that users could install kde4 without removing kde3.5 and still be able to use both of them based on a eselect category. this in my opinion is the best choice on the matter. when we'll be able to see a stable kde4 branch then it could be eventually merged into portage. the only thing that i'd do is to add a kde4-meta in the portage tree that would:
- install the overlay and update the contents
- configure the slotted install
- install the packages of kde4 and configure its use.
this will automate the installation for the users that want to try it out but don't want to mess out using overlays.

StifflerStealth · Post by **StifflerStealth** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:46 pm

beso_1717: Qt3 is still needed for the apps that have not yet been ported. Or, you can hack the ebuild so that the app compiles against Qt4 with Qt3Support enabled. I have a thread about this here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-579291.html

Good luck.

beso_1717 · Post by **beso_1717** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:46 pm

StifflerStealth wrote:beso_1717: Qt3 is still needed for the apps that have not yet been ported. Or, you can hack the ebuild so that the app compiles against Qt4 with Qt3Support enabled. I have a thread about this here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-579291.html

Good luck.

that's what i intend to do as soon i can get some kde4 base ebuilds that compile fine. i've stayed away from the kde4 overlay but now i could think of getting to try it.

sian · Post by **sian** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:45 am

kde 4 is in portage now ''hard masked"

Silentsand74 · Post by **Silentsand74** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:41 pm

autounmask is very useful due to masked recursive dependencies.

jquinte · Post by **jquinte** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:38 am

Finally...

sian · Post by **sian** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:52 pm

KDE4 rocks but I do not have many widget
Is there an ebuild for other widgets ? for example Notes