Macbook Pro - part 2

[PrepressManager]

WOW, this post is too much to sort through. I have an Apple Mac Book Pro 17" 2.16 GHz Intel Core Duo with 2GB RAM. Can I run Gentoo Linux on this? I am looking for a way to run Linux for web server testing scenarios for PHP/mySQL development. I use Zend Studio. Or, if Gentoo isn't worked out really well for OS X maybe I will just use XAMPP or MAMP to test things with? I have extra minitower macs maybe I can put Gentoo on that instead of the Mac Book Pro. Please advise.

[brullonulla]

I don't know anything about web servers, however I can tell you that Gentoo runs pretty well on the MBP (apart, in my case, for the audio, sigh). However setting it up is not for the faint of heart (nor for the Linux newbie).

[mitah]

I got a macbook also!


I love mac os (Leopard)

[PrepressManager]

Oh Hi Mitah,

have you run the Gentoo on the Mac Book Pro or are you using that on another machine. BTW, I like your guitar... wow

Brullonulla, the audio doesn't work right with Gentoo on intel Mac Book Pro? What do you do with Gentoo on a mac book pro, just curious what kind of stuff you do on it?

[brullonulla]

Brullonulla, the audio doesn't work right with Gentoo on intel Mac Book Pro? What do you do with Gentoo on a mac book pro, just curious what kind of stuff you do on it?

The audio doesn't currently work. I have a MBP Santa Rosa purchased just after Leopard came out. The soundcard is recognized by ALSA as a Realtek ALC885, and it *seems* to work (no error messages), but just stays silent.
I'm using a vanilla 2.6.22.9 kernel, chances are that it works with mactel patches.

Apart from the usual Internet stuff (web, mail, IM, IRC etc.) I use it for my scientific work. Write papers, prepare Powerpoint (sigh) presentations, analyze data, write Python software. Why this question?

[PrepressManager]

Hi brullonulla,

Oh I'm just curious about what all someone would do on a mac with Gentoo. Since my work is mainly graphics and prepress stuff I have to work on the apps and platform of the customers, Mac OS.. Only time I get to use Linux is with web server stuff, php scripting, stuff like that. So, you said you didn't know anything about webservers. Webservers, That's about all I know on Linux so it just got me curious as to what you may be doing. Sounds cool, I should really play around in Linux more I guess. I'm always so busy with all my sites and my job, don't know where I will find the time.

[gringo]

I'm using a vanilla 2.6.22.9 kernel

edit : youll need anything later than 2.6.24-rc1 to have it working out of the box.

cheers

[brullonulla]

Thanks gringo! I think I'll just wait for 2.6.24 to hit portage.

By the way: anyone knows where to look to enable power management on nvidia video cards? I googled a lot but I can't find any info on that, not only about the latest MBPs, but in general! I'm sure I'm somehow googling wrong, so if someone can help me on finding this info, is welcome.

PrepressManager: I personally use Linux since 4 years ago as my only desktop OS, and it's more than two years it also substituted Windows in my laboratory desktop. I don't know about your needs, but for mine, Gentoo Linux is more than enough. Surely it fits my needs as much or even more than OS X or Windows.

[kernelOfTruth]

Thanks gringo! I think I'll just wait for 2.6.24 to hit portage.

By the way: anyone knows where to look to enable power management on nvidia video cards? I googled a lot but I can't find any info on that, not only about the latest MBPs, but in general! I'm sure I'm somehow googling wrong, so if someone can help me on finding this info, is welcome.

see powermizer and

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Option "OnDemandVBlankInterrupts" "True"

should help to some degree I think, haven't been there yet, my laptop (not MBP will arrive around middle / end of next month) so I can't tell exactly ...

[brullonulla]

Sigh. It seems there MAYBE is powermizer for Linux only in the current beta driver.
Again, I guess I just can wait.

[gringo]

see powermizer

nice, thanks kernelOfTruth, didn´t know about this one

cheers

[brullonulla]

If anyone knows how to enable powermizer on Gentoo, let us know.

[kernelOfTruth]

I found some interesting coverage on this topic:

http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?si ... 05/0336222 so powermizer was disabled with at least the 9X.XX drivers

(see comments under the slashdot-article)

hopefully nvidia-will enable powermizer & coolbits for laptops otherwise that will be my first and last laptop with a nvidia-graphics card in conjunction with linux

update:

shot too fast

On some notebooks, PowerMizer is not enabled by default. This issue is being investigated, and there is no known workaround.

source: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/L ... er-18.html

go nvidia go

update2:

if you need more info www.nvnews.net is the way to go

[nixnut]

Continued from here

[brullonulla]

Anyone knows if power management is supported for the Macbook Pro wireless card?
iwconfig slaps my wrist:

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# iwconfig ath0 power on
Error for wireless request "Set Power Management" (8B2C) :
    SET failed on device ath0 ; Operation not supported.

[dreadhead]

Thanks gringo! I think I'll just wait for 2.6.24 to hit portage.

Just emerge alsa-driver from portage and you'll have sound. Im running fine with 2.6.22.9 vanilla sources and alsa-driver from portage.

[brullonulla]

Really? I tried, and it didn't work. Even alsa-9999 didn't. I tried quite hard to get it working, but most I obtained is a red light turning on on the plug.

Maybe your MBP is older than mine, and they changed chipsets? I bought mine in late October.

Eventually, could maybe you post your alsa-related configuration files?

[dreadhead]

Really? I tried, and it didn't work. Even alsa-9999 didn't. I tried quite hard to get it working, but most I obtained is a red light turning on on the plug.

Maybe your MBP is older than mine, and they changed chipsets? I bought mine in late October.

Eventually, could maybe you post your alsa-related configuration files?

No... Also mine is the Santa Rosa bought in Late October. I'm using alsa-driver 1.0.15 with the hda_intel use-flag. I know the issue with the red light in the plug. But once alsa-driver is loades successfully you can go into alsamixer (or kmix or whatever) and turn it off.

This is the kernel part (empty obviously if using alsa-driver from portage):

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zcat /proc/config.gz | grep SND
# CONFIG_SND is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDCLAS is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDPIN is not set

installed this:

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*  media-sound/alsa-driver
      Latest version available: 1.0.15
      Latest version installed: 1.0.15
      Size of files: 2,614 kB
      Homepage:      http://www.alsa-project.org/
      Description:   Advanced Linux Sound Architecture kernel modules
      License:       GPL-2 LGPL-2.1

after installing, run "modprobe snd_hda_intel" and alsaconf. and then alsamixer to raise all the volumes. The switch for the optical out (the red light) is called IEC958. Also make sure you have enabled the "Speaker" switch.

And just to be sure it's the same model:

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# lspci | grep Audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)

hope this helps,
dreadhead

[brullonulla]

I'm almost sure I did it all, but it didn't work. I will give it another try, however. (It's not hardware problem, sound on OS X works).

Just a (nooby, but I can't find info on it anywhere) question before. I have kept the kernel with your original configs (that needs alsa-driver), and now I have another kernel, identical but with alsa modules installed from it. How do I uninstall the alsa modules of the kernel to reinstall alsa-driver?

Edit: I've seen vanilla 2.6.24-rc3 is in portage. Anyone has news of it working?

[gringo]

How do I uninstall the alsa modules of the kernel to reinstall alsa-driver?

reinstall the kernel without alsa support and install alsa-driver. It´s the only way.

I personally don´t use alsa-driver, i always use the in-kernel driver. I don´t even know if 1.0.15 ships with mbp3 support or not but if dreadhead says it works for him then it should work for you too.

I've seen vanilla 2.6.24-rc3 is in portage. Anyone has news of it working?

support for it is in mainline since rc1 iirc, so yes, it should work out of the box.

cheers

[brullonulla]

I've seen vanilla 2.6.24-rc3 is in portage. Anyone has news of it working?

support for it is in mainline since rc1 iirc, so yes, it should work out of the box.

cheers

About audio, yes, but I meant if there are other issues (MBP-specific or not) related with 2.6.24 that anyone knows, so that I'm ready when they will pop out...

[gringo]

About audio, yes, but I meant if there are other issues (MBP-specific or not) related with 2.6.24 that anyone knows, so that I'm ready when they will pop out...

i´m using rc2 here and i haven´t realised any problems so far, everything works as expected. Torvalds has just released rc4 btw
Well, maybe you will have some troubles with binary drivers ( like the one from nvidia) due to the x86/x86_64 merge but there´s any easy workaround for that.

cheers

[brullonulla]

i´m using rc2 here and i haven´t realised any problems so far, everything works as expected. Torvalds has just released rc4 btw
Well, maybe you will have some troubles with binary drivers ( like the one from nvidia) due to the x86/x86_64 merge but there´s any easy workaround for that.

cheers

This one?

[gringo]

This one?

yes, just create that link and all will be fine.

cheers

[marco007]

please someone upload xorg
i have 2.4 15" mb pro
1440 x 900 + 8600GT