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Waninkoko · Post by **Waninkoko** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:11 pm

*mod edit* - length split - continued [topic=641834]here[/topic] -- think4urs11

"zen-sources"
A stable and featurefull kernel patchset.

* NOTES:

"kamikaze-sources" are DEAD. No more releases forever. Last version will be 2.6.24-rc2-kamikaze1.

* GIT REPOSITORY:

http://repo.or.cz/w/linux-2.6/zen-sources.git

* STABLE SNAPSHOTS PATCHES:

http://zen.waninkoko.info/patches

* EBUILDS:

"zen-sources" ebuilds are available at http://zen.waninkoko.info/ebuilds and the "custom-kernels" overlay.

Howto add the "custom-kernels" overlay:

To add the "custom-kernels" overlay, you need to install and configure "layman":
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# emerge layman
# echo "source /usr/portage/local/layman/make.conf" >> /etc/make.conf
And then add the "custom-kernels" overlay:
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# layman -a custom-kernels

* QUICK GIT HOWTO:

If you want to compile "zen-sources" from git and have it updated daily, you just need to follow this steps.
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# cd /usr/src
# git clone git://repo.or.cz/linux-2.6/zen-sources.git
"zen-sources" git repository will be downloaded to your hard disk and ready to be compiled.

Update tree:

Just move to the kernel tree directory and run:
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# git pull

Greetings.

tallica · Post by **tallica** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:38 pm

Can't wait for stable release! Pretty nice name

yngwin · Post by **yngwin** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:09 pm

Sounds interesting. I'm looking forward to the first "stable" release.

likewhoa · Post by **likewhoa** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:37 pm

change is good, git ftw!

oRDeX · Post by **oRDeX** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:36 am

waiting for stable release here, but i think "kamikaze" was a pretty name

charlie · Post by **charlie** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:29 am

I do not like the name zen. The name suggests to my mind a state of alien peace. Where as kamikaze suggests to me a willingness to plunge ahead regardless of any consequences.

Zen suggests to my mind an unwillingness to change if the current situtation is: if ain't broke don't fix it. That unfaithful saying is contrary to the spirit of this statement: "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard."

Furthermore if I had a girl and a boy I would name the girl Zen and the boy Kamikazee.

mbar · Post by **mbar** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:31 am

thanks for the info and I concur with charlie's "name thingy"

kamikaze > zen

likewhoa · Post by **likewhoa** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:12 am

i don't care if it's called "fairy-sources" it's still a bleeding edge linux kernel.

waiting for release.

hirakendu · Post by **hirakendu** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:13 pm

yeah, kamikaze sounded more mercurial

. (so did skunk sources ?

) whats in a name ?

. (best ones were i guess nitro- and viper-

.)

Dottout · Post by **Dottout** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:16 pm

cloning..

kernelOfTruth · Post by **kernelOfTruth** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:24 pm

*subscribes*

THE KING IS DEAD

- LONG LIVE THE KING

Dottout · Post by **Dottout** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:40 pm

Miguel are you going to release a git ebuild also? something like -999.ebuild would be nice

StifflerStealth · Post by **StifflerStealth** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:14 pm

likewhoa wrote:i don't care if it's called "fairy-sources" it's still a bleeding edge linux kernel.

waiting for release.

Maybe I should rename the old shadow sources to this?

Actually, fairy sources sounds either like it's a magical kernel source that works in mysterious ways, or that it's gay which even then it will work while cleaning your computer, but still work in mysterious ways.

I will switch to Zen Sources now I guess. So, the Zen sources will always be the latest version from the kernel git, so that means 2.6.24 dev branch for now, right?

Since Git is suppose to allow versioning, is there a way for the Zen sources git be a clone of the kernel git with patches applied to say the stable and dev line? Then a person just needs to check out the version they want?

ilikenwf · Post by **ilikenwf** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:26 pm

This what you needed to talk to me about? No biggie...but the next time I'm online, and you see...contact me...if you still need to.

Waninkoko · Post by **Waninkoko** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:43 pm

Dottout wrote:Miguel are you going to release a git ebuild also? something like -999.ebuild would be nice

rmh3093 is working on this

ilikenwf: I still want to talk with you but about another thing...

nbvcxz · Post by **nbvcxz** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:13 pm

Waninkoko wrote:rmh3093 is working on this

Wow - probably most wanted thing

ilikenwf · Post by **ilikenwf** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:23 pm

If any of you use Ubuntu or one of it's derivatives, or Debian on one of your other boxes, I am going to maintain deb packages, and occasionally release a tarball of the source for config tweakers.

rmh3093 · Post by **rmh3093** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:49 pm

About the "releases" and "ebuids".....

You could theoretically pull from the git repo at any time. I personally believe the git repo should be considered "stable" at anyone time. If you update from our git server regularly then it should be easier for you to identify problems (use 'git bisect' to track down the specific commit). However, I realize some of you want some sort of "tried and tested" indicator so after large numbers of commits or major changes we can update the tags and kernel name/version.

There are lots of ways we can provide ebuilds....
1)an ebuild based on patchs relative to official vanilla releases
2)an ebuild based on patches relative to official daily git snapshots but not based on zen tags
3)an ebuild based on patches relative to official daily git snapshots but based on zen tags
4)a live ebuild which pulls from git directly - HEAD
5)a live ebuild which pulls from git directly - tag

OR

you could just clone the repo an pull when you want to update

BETTER SPEAK UP IF YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE!

ocin · Post by **ocin** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:56 pm

1 or 5

eremini · Post by **eremini** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:02 am

As long as there are stable releases which I can use on a productive server it's all good

dodo1122 · Post by **dodo1122** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:18 am

4 and 1 please

dodo

yngwin · Post by **yngwin** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:33 am

at least #1

kernelOfTruth · Post by **kernelOfTruth** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:44 am

dodo1122 wrote:4 and 1 please

dodo

++

at least #1

++

at least #1, but also #4 if additionally possible

StifflerStealth · Post by **StifflerStealth** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:34 am

I like the idea of ebuilds pulling in from a tag so that it is known to be working purely. The head has the feel of something that is just committed and untested.

likewhoa · Post by **likewhoa** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:49 am

one & five
can't wait to test this out.

zen-sources++