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vonr
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They always come back...

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Post by vonr » Thu May 24, 2007 7:37 am

We all know about the "I'm leaving Gentoo" / "I'm sick of Gentoo" / "I've found out that Mark Shuttleworth is the one true God of the OSS universe" type of posts here. We also know that a lot of these people come back after a while.

There has been some uproar recently about all kinds of developers leaving Gentoo. However, for them the same thing seems to be true: they often come back. After metalgod, antarus, and jakub, Flameeyes has now decided to return. Ehrm, welcome back Diego. Nice to see you again.

What is it with Gentoo that makes people unable to leave?
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Post by mudrii » Thu May 24, 2007 7:45 am

good quastion
people are the worst enemy and in the same time are the biggest advantage and driving force for any project
because is nothing better was invented yet.
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Post by ToeiRei » Thu May 24, 2007 8:13 am

Fact is, that you always see what you got after you've left it behind. From my own experience: I have considered leaving gentoo behind me too. So I backupped my drive, installed debian, was annoyed about the old packages and restored gentoo.

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Post by john-boro » Thu May 24, 2007 10:04 am

I went over to debian a while ago because it seemed to be easier to get working on my MBP. And it was. Everything installed easily, and specialist packages like pommed that weren't in portage at the time were easy to find. I'm still very impressed with debian, especially etch (though I usually used unstable). It really is a serious distro and is the one I felt most comfortable with moving from gentoo.

However, now MBP support for gentoo has increased loads, so I thought I'd go back and see what things are like. After a couple of traditional compilation errors, I've got a good base system up and running, and have also installed xgl and beryl (far easier than with debian). Also, it does seem to run much faster. We'll see if this is still the case when I've installed openoffice etc and all the things that came with debian, but I'm impressed so far. Strangely, the extra experience I gained using debian has helped me to better understand parts of gentoo, such as init scripts, module loading etc. At present, I'm happy to have them dual booting on my computer :)


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Post by staffan » Thu May 24, 2007 7:16 pm

Apart from the personal conflicts that happen in any sufficiently large group, I sometimes get the feeling that people push themselves too hard. This isn't exactly work (to most people) but it can sure seem like that sometimes.

Perhaps quitting and returning is the only way to really get a break from it. I don't know...

Anyway, welcome back, Diego. :D Some of us really did miss you.
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Post by swimmer » Thu May 24, 2007 11:07 pm

Here as well: welcome back Diego!
Que te vaya bien :)

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Post by pandaxiongmao » Thu May 24, 2007 11:16 pm

How can't you love an OS that allows you to virtually customize almost everything?
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Post by tanderson » Fri May 25, 2007 1:05 am

I don't really know that Diego should be classified as the people under this thread, as he did not quit using Gentoo. He resigned from a Gentoo dev, but never quit using Gentoo. 8)
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Post by swimmer » Fri May 25, 2007 1:34 am

Look at the original post - it was about resigning in the beginning but some people apparently misunderstood ;-)

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Post by steveL » Fri May 25, 2007 2:51 am

Well I too am really glad he's come back. Gentoo is just the best Linux imo :)
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Post by vibrokatana » Fri May 25, 2007 4:15 am

hmm, I refuse to install gentoo, they banned me from OTW because I argued against using GNU/ infront of linux.
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Post by Earthwings » Fri May 25, 2007 5:48 am

vibrokatana wrote:hmm, I refuse to install gentoo, they banned me from OTW because I argued against using GNU/ infront of linux.
Your first OTW ban:
[post=3795817]vibrokatana[/post] wrote:your mom was too easy and she got ganged by your neighbors
Your second OTW ban:
[post=3948653]vibrokatana[/post] wrote:STFU and go back to grammar school where you can enforce your stupid rules.
and more in that thread, afterwards evading the ban by registering another account, calling us jackasses. Reminds me of the Calvin quote in pilla's sig: "I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept." :wink:
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Post by vibrokatana » Fri May 25, 2007 12:15 pm

Earthwings wrote:
vibrokatana wrote:hmm, I refuse to install gentoo, they banned me from OTW because I argued against using GNU/ infront of linux.
Your first OTW ban:
[post=3795817]vibrokatana[/post] wrote:your mom was too easy and she got ganged by your neighbors
Your second OTW ban:
[post=3948653]vibrokatana[/post] wrote:STFU and go back to grammar school where you can enforce your stupid rules.
and more in that thread, afterwards evading the ban by registering another account, calling us jackasses. Reminds me of the Calvin quote in pilla's sig: "I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept." :wink:
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I failed to see the viruality in the second post. The first one was a mistake lol, someone said one too many your mom jokes iirc.
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Post by steveL » Sat May 26, 2007 10:59 am

vibrokatana wrote:I failed to see the viruality in the second post. The first one was a mistake lol, someone said one too many your mom jokes iirc.
Er, it's just abusive imo. Still, never mind; if you don't use Gentoo, tho, why do you hang out here?
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Post by vibrokatana » Sat May 26, 2007 2:07 pm

steveL wrote:
vibrokatana wrote:I failed to see the viruality in the second post. The first one was a mistake lol, someone said one too many your mom jokes iirc.
Er, it's just abusive imo. Still, never mind; if you don't use Gentoo, tho, why do you hang out here?
I actually don't come here often, probably 1 or 2 posts a day at most (under this account). Besides its fun to scare the admins, they seem to be paranoid lately.
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