Gnome 2.18 - stable, the next few days

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roderick · Post by **roderick** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:04 pm

For anyone using gnome-experimental overlay, and requiring the gnome terminal transparency to work, the fixed vte is added now to xeffects overlay. layman -a xeffects to get it.

Cheers.

1ino1eum_4the_win · Post by **1ino1eum_4the_win** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:35 pm

ok, I m with the arch version , I have adder the gnome-experimental overlay...
but How can I know every packages that I have to put with ~arch in my portage.keywords, to have my entire gnome 2.16 upgraded to 2.18 ?
tkx

nuzzy · Post by **nuzzy** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:19 pm

roderick wrote:For anyone using gnome-experimental overlay, and requiring the gnome terminal transparency to work, the fixed vte is added now to xeffects overlay. layman -a xeffects to get it.

Cheers.

No workie:

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layman -a xeffects
* Running command "/usr/bin/svn co "svn://svn.gentoo-xeffects.org/xeffects/trunk/" "/usr/portage/local/layman/xeffects""...
svn: Can't connect to host 'svn.gentoo-xeffects.org': Connection refused
* Failed to add overlay "xeffects".
* Error was: Adding the overlay failed!

I'm behind a FW...is that the problem?

ryker · Post by **ryker** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:29 pm

nuzzy wrote:
roderick wrote:For anyone using gnome-experimental overlay, and requiring the gnome terminal transparency to work, the fixed vte is added now to xeffects overlay. layman -a xeffects to get it.

Cheers.
No workie:
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layman -a xeffects
* Running command "/usr/bin/svn co "svn://svn.gentoo-xeffects.org/xeffects/trunk/" "/usr/portage/local/layman/xeffects""...
svn: Can't connect to host 'svn.gentoo-xeffects.org': Connection refused
* Failed to add overlay "xeffects".
* Error was: Adding the overlay failed!
I'm behind a FW...is that the problem?

layman -f && layman -a xeffects

They recently moved the overlay.

roderick · Post by **roderick** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:55 pm

Behind a FW may cause a problem. Have you had any problems with any other overalys using SVN? If not, then :

layman -d xeffects
layman -L
layman -a xeffects

If you still get a problem, it may be firewall related. Ensure your FW can allow SVN traffic.

n3Cre0 · Post by **n3Cre0** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:08 pm

Could it be possible I never had any problem with the terminal being transparent?

Anyways..

I was wondering if everyone got the same problem: I lost my battery state icon (laptop) and I can't add any new icons to my panel

Master Shake · Post by **Master Shake** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:52 pm

I too lost my battery state for my laptop. Haven't had a chance to fool with it to see what's wrong. I'll check when I get home, as I'm at work atm.

n3Cre0 · Post by **n3Cre0** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:32 pm

Glad I'm not the only one

I recompiled gnome-applets but no solution. Maybe it isn't included yet?

Do you also have problems regarding adding new shortcuts to your bar?

EDIT: I just unplugged my AC adapter and a tooltip showed up over my "gnome-logo" startmenu telling me my laptop is unplugged and it'll now run on batterypower.

red-wolf76 · Post by **red-wolf76** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:13 pm

I don't mean to be nagging here, but once Gnome-2.18 hits ~arch, could the creation of a corresponding gnome-light ebuild be expedited? With 2.16 it took ages for it to appear...

Roguelazer · Post by **Roguelazer** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:18 pm

n3Cre0 and company, look into "gnome-power-manager"...

n3Cre0 · Post by **n3Cre0** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:42 am

It was already installed. I'll re-emerge

EDIT: Didn't fix it for me

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:14 pm

red-wolf76 wrote:I don't mean to be nagging here, but once Gnome-2.18 hits ~arch, could the creation of a corresponding gnome-light ebuild be expedited? With 2.16 it took ages for it to appear...

I submitted the last gnome-light ebuild for 2.16, I'll likely submit another one once 2.18 hits the streets. It will be on bugzilla shortly

cwall64 · Post by **cwall64** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:14 pm

after a emerge --sync and layman -S, just now all of my gnome packages seem to want to downgrade - did they all get hard masked?

n3Cre0 · Post by **n3Cre0** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:54 pm

cwall64 wrote:after a emerge --sync and layman -S, just now all of my gnome packages seem to want to downgrade - did they all get hard masked?

Same here!

[ebuild UD] dev-libs/atk-1.12.4 [1.18.0] USE="-debug -doc" 633 kB
[ebuild UD] app-text/scrollkeeper-0.3.14-r1 [0.3.14-r2] USE="nls" 664 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.16.0 [2.18.0] USE="-debug -doc" 1,374 kB
[ebuild UD] app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.8.0 [0.10.1] USE="-debug" 403 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-vorbis-0.10.12 [0.10.11] 1,427 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-xvideo-0.10.12 [0.10.11] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-x-0.10.12 [0.10.11] 0 kB
[ebuild UD] x11-libs/pango-1.14.10 [1.16.1] USE="-debug -doc" 1,264 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/libgnomeprint-2.12.1 [2.18.0] USE="cups -debug -doc" 770 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/gconf-2.14.0 [2.16.0] USE="-debug -doc" 1,852 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.6.0 [0.8] USE="-debug" 466 kB
[ebuild UD] x11-libs/libwnck-2.17.92 [2.18.0] USE="-debug -doc" 467 kB [2]
[ebuild UD] x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.8.2-r1 [2.10.0] USE="-accessibility -debug -static" 451 kB
[ebuild UD] x11-wm/metacity-2.16.3 [2.18.0] USE="-debug -xcomposite% -xinerama" 1,791 kB [2]
[ebuild UD] dev-cpp/gconfmm-2.16.0 [2.18.0] USE="-debug -doc -examples" 270 kB
[ebuild UD] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.16.3 [2.18.0] USE="-accessibility -debug" 2,298 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/gail-1.9.3 [1.18.0] USE="-debug -doc" 609 kB
[ebuild UD] x11-libs/vte-0.14.2 [0.16.0-r1] USE="opengl python -debug -doc (-pcre%*)" 1,008 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1 [2.18.0.1] USE="avahi hal ipv6 samba ssl -debug -doc -gnutls" 1,856 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/libgnome-2.16.0 [2.18.0] USE="esd -debug -doc" 988 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-menus-2.16.1 [2.18.0] USE="-debug (-python%*)" 407 kB
[ebuild UD] dev-cpp/gnome-vfsmm-2.16.0 [2.18.0] USE="-debug -doc -examples" 322 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.16.0 [2.18.0] USE="X -debug -doc" 916 kB
[ebuild UD] dev-cpp/libgnomemm-2.16.0 [2.18.0] USE="-debug" 251 kB
[ebuild UD] x11-misc/alacarte-0.10.2 [0.11.3] USE="-debug" 197 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.16.1 [2.18.1] USE="jpeg -debug -doc" 1,448 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.16.3 [2.18.0] USE="-debug -doc" 1,174 kB
[ebuild UD] dev-python/gnome-python-2.16.2 [2.18.0] USE="-debug -doc" 393 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.4-r5 [0.5] USE="-debug (-gnome%*)" 357 kB
[ebuild UD] x11-terms/gnome-terminal-2.16.1 [2.18.0] USE="-debug" 1,798 kB
[ebuild UD] dev-cpp/libgnomeuimm-2.16.0 [2.18.0] USE="-debug" 322 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-extra/gucharmap-1.8.0 [1.10.0] USE="gnome -cjk -debug" 2,483 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-extra/gconf-editor-2.16.0 [2.18.0] USE="-debug" 517 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-2.16.3 [2.18.0] USE="-debug -doc -libnotify%" 2,327 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-extra/gcalctool-5.8.25-r1 [5.9.14] USE="-debug" 1,120 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.16.3 [2.18.0] USE="-debug -doc -eds" 2,630 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/eel-2.16.3 [2.18.0.1] USE="X -debug" 658 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-extra/yelp-2.16.2 [2.18.0] USE="-beagle -debug (-xulrunner%)" 839 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/nautilus-2.16.3 [2.18.0.1] USE="X gnome -beagle -debug (-tracker%)" 4,169 kB
[ebuild UD] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.16.1 [2.18.0] USE="-debug" 2,433 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/control-center-2.16.3 [2.18.0] USE="alsa hal -debug -eds (-esd%*) (-gstreamer%*)" 1,979 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner-2.16.3 [2.18.0] USE="cdr dvdr -debug" 703 kB
[ebuild UD] app-admin/gnome-system-tools-2.14.0 [2.18.0] USE="samba -debug -nfs" 2,072 kB
[ebuild UD] app-arch/file-roller-2.16.3 [2.18.0] USE="gnome -debug" 1,105 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/libgnomeprintui-2.12.1 [2.18.0] USE="-debug -doc" 632 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-session-2.17.92 [2.18.0] USE="branding esd ipv6 tcpd -debug" 753 kB [2]
[ebuild UD] media-video/totem-2.16.5 [2.18.0] USE="dbus%* dvd firefox gnome hal mad mpeg nsplugin ogg vorbis xine%* xv -a52 -debug -ffmpeg -flac -lirc -nvtv -theora (-xulrunner%)" 1,779 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-extra/gnome-media-2.16.1 [2.18.0] USE="ipv6 mad ogg vorbis -debug" 2,905 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-extra/gnome-system-monitor-2.16.1 [2.18.0] USE="-debug" 1,446 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-volume-manager-2.15.0-r1 [2.17.0] USE="crypt -debug -doc" 312 kB
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.16.2 [2.18.0] USE="acpi apm gstreamer hal -debug -ipv6 (-doc%) (-gnome%*)" 6,961 kB
[ebuild UD] dev-python/gnome-python-desktop-2.16.0 [2.18.0] USE="X -debug -doc% -nognome% -rsvg% -wnck%" 420 kB [2]
[ebuild UD] gnome-extra/gnome-utils-2.16.2-r2 [2.18.0] USE="hal ipv6 -debug" 3,291 kB
[ebuild UD] app-text/evince-0.6.1-r2 [0.8.0] USE="dbus dvi gnome -debug -djvu -doc -t1lib -tiff" 1,184 kB
[blocks B ] <gnome-base/control-center-2.17.0 (is blocking gnome-base/libgnomekbd-2.18.0)

First I did an emerge --sync followed by

* Running command "/usr/bin/svn update "/usr/portage/local/layman/gnome-experimental""...

Fetching external item into '/usr/portage/local/layman/gnome-experimental/app-crypt/seahorse'
External at revision 624.

Fetching external item into '/usr/portage/local/layman/gnome-experimental/sys-apps/hal'
External at revision 624.

Fetching external item into '/usr/portage/local/layman/gnome-experimental/app-misc/hal-info'
External at revision 624.

Fetching external item into '/usr/portage/local/layman/gnome-experimental/sys-auth/consolekit'
External at revision 624.

Fetching external item into '/usr/portage/local/layman/gnome-experimental/sys-auth/policykit'
External at revision 624.

At revision 1195.
*
* Success:
* ------
*
* Successfully synchronized overlay "gnome-experimental".

I won't update for a while then :/

tj · Post by tj » Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:20 am

have a look at the portage package.mask

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less /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask

Gnome-2.18.0 is moving into the official portage tree (a good thing)

To avoid downgrading your overlay installed packages try this tip from gentoo-wiki

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sed -n '/The Great GNOME 2.18.0 mask/,/End of GNOME 2.18.0 mask/p' /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask >> /etc/portage/package.unmask

now try emerge -pDu gnome

shrub · Post by **shrub** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:42 am

Thankyou for that solution tj!

cwall64 · Post by **cwall64** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:33 pm

shrub wrote:Thankyou for that solution tj!

I second that!!!

n3Cre0 · Post by **n3Cre0** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:43 pm

Thanks the unmasking worked.

I'm still going to rebuild gnome after it has hit ~arch. But not downgrade.

i.e. 2.18 (experimental) -> 2.18
instead of 2.18 (experimental) -> 2.16 -> 2.18

I just removed the gnome-experimental overlay and did a resync.

EDIT: The wiki page tj is referring to
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Update_to_GNOME_unstable

guru369 · Post by **guru369** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:35 am

First of all I want to say THANK YOU Gentoo Dev and Gnome-Experimental Maintainers!!!
You did and do a great Job handling the new Version of Gnome.

I am using it for a while now with no glitch!

I noticed that I am unable to run any of the Administration Applications (Dont have permissions) Only as root form the console.

How can I setup it to work?
I noticed that Ubuntu uses sudo??? But the password is saved for the whole session?

How can I make gtksu to automatically launch when I try one of those apps?

Thanks!

Dekel

bluesurfer · Post by **bluesurfer** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:08 am

the whole Gnome 2.18 stuff is already masked in /usr/portage/profiles/packages.mask
but the ebuilds are actually not in the portage tree.

@n3Cre0 do you really have the gnome 2.18 ebuilds in portage??

n3Cre0 · Post by **n3Cre0** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:33 am

No. I though I did since `google gentoo packages` showed they were added (hard-masked) to portage. But after removing the overlay and doing the necessary steps it still wanted to downgrade so I'll stay with the overlay for now

@guru369: Exactly the same here! (about sudo)
It worked in 2.16.0 but here I also get that messagebox telling me I can't access the settings. Yesterday I had to log in X as root just to change something.

Btw everything I start from the terminal gets this:

(<program>:<number>): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.

tj · Post by tj » Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:41 am

just to add my experiences so far:

packages in portage: not at my PC so can't confirm but 99.9% sure I'm using the ebuilds in the overlay

root privileges for sys-admin stuff: same problem

gnupg circular dep: evolution-2.10 wants gnupg-2.0.3, seahorse wants gnupg-1.4.7

other than that seems to be working fine for me
n3Cre0: thanks for providing the gentoo-wiki link

n3Cre0 · Post by **n3Cre0** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:59 am

No problem.

Yes I thought so too
http://packages.gentoo.org/daily/2007/03/24/

If you do a ctrl+f 2.18.0 you'll notice alot (if not all?) ebuilds for gnome 2.18.0 were added yesterday - 03/24/07

Glad everyone is having the sys-admin trouble. Anyone else can confirm my GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: ?

xtlosx · Post by **xtlosx** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:56 pm

hey guys, I would love to use the gnome network manager, but I can't seem to figure out how.. i'm using the overlay, and my entire desktop is 2.18.... the applet I have is still the older network monitor and I dont see network manager in the applets, where is it?!

Emopig · Post by **Emopig** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:59 pm

Is it me or does nothing on the System -> Administration menu in Gnome 2.18 work?

The GUI error reads:

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The configuration could not be loaded
You are not allowed to access the system configuration.

And running any of these apps from a console I get:

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andrew@ziggy ~ $ users-admin

(users-admin:6824): Liboobs-WARNING **: There was an unknown error communicating with the backends: The name org.freedesktop.SystemToolsBackends was not provided by any .service files

I noticed "gnome-system-tools" is at 2.18 but "system-tools-backends" is only at 2.1.3. It looks like system-tools-backends 2.2.0 is available on the Gnome FTP server.

What does the following commend in the ebuild actually mean?

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elog "At this time, you won't be able to change anything"
elog "and don't try it, it will only make dbus crash"
elog "You have been warned !"

There is also a patch applied to 2.13 to do with dbus permissions but it doesn't seem to work!