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immudium
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Post by immudium » Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:07 am

Gergan Penkov wrote:This fixes it for me, could some of you test it (especially the ppl without problems - in order to see if it does not degrades their performance), but I think this should solve the problem :
That worked great for me. Just as fast as terminal versions prior to 2.6.0 with or without compositing. Many thanks!
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Post by b3cks » Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:59 am

jeanfrancis wrote:I just tried SLiM, and installed that theme: http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=48605

It looks nice, and have very few dependencies :)
The first SLiM theme I like. Don't much but it's better than all the other ones.
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Post by geniux » Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:25 am

jeanfrancis wrote:I just tried SLiM, and installed that theme: http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=48605

It looks nice, and have very few dependencies :)
A dumb question, what initscript do you use? And should I delete xdm from my startup? Didn't find anything in the documentation
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Post by ilm » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:08 am

Gergan Penkov wrote:Just add to the followin' to the ebuild:

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src_unpack() {
      unpack ${A}
      cd ${S}
      epatch ${FILESDIR}/name-of-the-patch.patch
}
where name-of-the-patch.patch in my is case speed-up.patch but you could save it with another name if you want, it should be under files directory
so if you should have sth like /usr/local/xfce/xfce-extra/terminal/files <- here comes the patch, in /usr/local/xfce/xfce-extra/terminal/terminal-x.yy.ebuild is the ebuild
where x.yy is the version
/usr/local/xfce is added in make.conf as an overlay and after all this you should call
ebuild /usr/local/xfce/xfce-extra/terminal/terminal-x.yy.ebuild digest
after that emerge -1 xfce-extra/terminal
:)
Maybe I have to re-start xfce or something, but this didn't seem to make a difference :?
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Post by breakerfall » Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:45 am

Hi... I haven't had any issue with Terminal at all. It's as fast as I remember it in 4.2.

I do have one issue though, Xfce's own compositing is slower than Beryl was. I don't want to use beryl / compiz, seeing as Xfce has it's own manager, but it's awfully slow sometimes, especially when firefox is on the current desktop. Try switching really fast between desktops now, you can't. It stutters. Disable compositing and you're back to normal speed, you can fly through the desktops.

Also, on occasion, when moving windows, there's a smooth lag that quickly catches up to the mouse and then it's fine again. Which is the best tool to record the desktop? I will throw a small clip on google or youtube.
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Post by jeanfrancis » Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:48 pm

geniux wrote:
jeanfrancis wrote:I just tried SLiM, and installed that theme: http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=48605

It looks nice, and have very few dependencies :)
A dumb question, what initscript do you use? And should I delete xdm from my startup? Didn't find anything in the documentation
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I use xdm, I changed /etc/conf.d/xdm to startup slim instead of gdm :)
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Post by Nille » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:12 pm

I'm simply using xdm. It's hidious, i know. But it works. :) It's not like you are staring at a login screen for 3 hours a day.. ;)

For those who are missing the XFCE start menu (like me), and really need it back. Just add a launcher to the panel, and use

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xfdesktop --menu
as the command. Nice little workaround. Since the menu can't be added to the panel the traditional way, afaik.

I'm very pleased with XFCE4.4 so far. Just emerged it, i couldn't wait for it to become stable. Some small improvements that i wanted.
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Post by ilm » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:16 pm

Nille wrote: For those who are missing the XFCE start menu (like me), and really need it back. Just add a launcher to the panel, and use

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xfdesktop --menu
as the command. Nice little workaround. Since the menu can't be added to the panel the traditional way, afaik.
This has been mentioned a couple of times already in this thread:

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USE="panel-plugin" emerge -1uN xfce-base/xfdesktop
will give you back the menu on the panel.
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Post by geniux » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:53 pm

jeanfrancis wrote: I use xdm, I changed /etc/conf.d/xdm to startup slim instead of gdm :)
That makes sense, I'm a bit slow today it seems :lol:
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Post by breakerfall » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:56 pm

Oh, I'm wondering... has anyone noticed the fact that they removed the option to disable menu icons? Anyone know why? I can't find much info... accept a way on how to disable ALL gtk menu icons. But have they really removed the option to disable menu icons? And why?

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Post by Daeluin » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:35 pm

Ok, so I was eager to try out the new thunar-volman plugin. There's a recent ebuild on bugs for 0.1.2.

But I'm a little confused. I use thunar with gnome... is there a way to have thunar-volman replace/override whatever it is that gnome uses? And then is there a way to only have thunar auto open instead of thunar AND nautilus? Perhaps this has been covered before, if so please enlighten or point me in the right direction...

Edit: Ok, so I just needed to disable the gnome-volume-manager process, and remove it from the startup programs list in the sessions properties. Works well. :D
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Post by baigsabeeh » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:07 pm

Anybody know how to make XFCE automount cdroms and hotplug device such as USB sticks like Gnome does?
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Post by jeanfrancis » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:30 pm

baigsabeeh wrote:Anybody know how to make XFCE automount cdroms and hotplug device such as USB sticks like Gnome does?
Hi!

Thunar does it "almost" automatically.. When I plug in my external drives, it is added in the left panel, and a single click mounts it...
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Post by baigsabeeh » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:43 pm

It won't do it for me. I just tried. Can I see your USE flags?
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Post by jeanfrancis » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:45 pm

Sure :)

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Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] xfce-base/thunar-0.8.0  USE="dbus exif hal pcre startup-notification thumbnail -debug -doc -trash-panel-plugin" 0 kB 
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Post by baigsabeeh » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:55 pm

I'm not in the plugdev group, but how would I add myself to it? I've never needed to use the usermod utility or whatever is appropriate.
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Post by jeanfrancis » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:59 pm

baigsabeeh wrote:I'm not in the plugdev group, but how would I add myself to it? I've never needed to use the usermod utility or whatever is appropriate.
I'm not in the plugdev group (didn't even know about it). Thunar is complaining?

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gpasswd -A username plugdev

I can mount the drives because my fstab permits my users to mount the drives:

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/dev/hdWestern          /mnt/hdWestern  vfat            noauto,users,utf8=true  0 0
/dev/hdMaxtor           /mnt/hdMaxtor   ext3            noauto,users    0 0
/dev/sda1               /mnt/jumpdrive  vfat            noauto,users    0 0
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Post by baigsabeeh » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:08 am

I remember to use hald and make it automount I needed to be in the plugdev group even for Gnome. Then it says the same thing on the Gentoo XFCE guide so might as well give it a shot.
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Post by jeanfrancis » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:13 am

You could try it without adding "users" in fstab.. let me know if that works :)
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Post by baigsabeeh » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:16 am

Well, right now my Creative Zen Micro has no fstab entry. I plugged in to the USB port after adding myself to plugdev and restarting and Thunar detected it right up. So, it's great.

Nope, adding yourself to plugdev will put an entry for the cdrom in Thunar, but it won't let you mount it if users is not in the fstab entry. On the other hand for all non-defined devices, you don't need any permissions and they are all mounted under the /media directory randomly

If you completely remove the cdrom entry then it is automatically mounted under any user, but for some reason it keeps the CPU busy even after the cd is unmounted.
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Post by jeanfrancis » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:33 am

baigsabeeh wrote:If you completely remove the cdrom entry then it is automatically mounted under any user, but for some reason it keeps the CPU busy even after the cd is unmounted.
I didn't know that :)

When is the CPU busy? When you mount a CD in /media?
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Post by baigsabeeh » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:38 am

The whole time from inserting the cd in to unmounting ejecting. Even when it is unmounted and still in the CPU remains busy.
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Post by baigsabeeh » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:46 am

How can I installe XFCE themes?
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Post by jeanfrancis » Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:03 am

baigsabeeh wrote:How can I installe XFCE themes?
You can create a directory in your home folder named .themes, and untar your theme there :) It will be only visible for your user.

If you want to have it for all users, I guess you have to put it in /usr/local/share/themes, but I didn't try it.
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Post by baigsabeeh » Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:12 am

http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=23060

Say I want to install this theme which I do :D.

What would I need to do? I untarred in the .themes directory in my Home directory and it didn't show up in the user interface settings.
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