azureus HELL

[zgredek]

And that's it.

It always happens about 1 hour after azureus was started and I cannot predict when exactly. I may happen after 1hr or 1:15... My computer dies immediately, cannot move the mouse pointer nor use the keyboard... I'm sure it's this app bacause if I do not start it, I can reach uptimes ~2 days no problem...

I'm using azureus 2.4.0.2 downloaded from the official site NOT from the portage (the less packages, the better).

Please help me, this is really annoying to have to reboot your computer every hour...

Thanks!

[Paranoid23]

Well this isn't a solution for azureus but do you have these problems with other java apps too? Java is pretty evil with memory usage and it is developed in hell so check to see if it's a java problem or a azureus problem.

Another suggestion is to use another torrent program such as ktorrent which is pretty good. But you need the complete kde environment to run it.

[Dlareh]

I like bittornado's btlaunchmanycurses.py

[zgredek]

Hi.

I recently updated the whole java environment but the problem still exists. I don't use many java apps (actually none...), but they DO work.

Additionally, I do not plan to change the app, as I've been using azureus for ages, plus i like its being so customizable:)

Any other suggestions?

Edit:
This situation is really weird - no high memory usage, no unusual disk activity, not even a single line in logs, nothing!... Just <bang> and it's gone...

[yngwin]

Try Azureus-2.5.0.0.

OTOH, Ktorrent has really improved lately, there isn't much what you will miss in the latest version.

[onlinepancakes]

rtorrent. It just pwns. Simple and light.

[zgredek]

The same happens for all the versions of azureus, I don't think updating will change anything...
I will of course give ktorrent a shot, but, again, what's wrong with azureus?

Edit:
Please do not post the names of all the torrent frontends, I don't need them


BTW:
Does ktorrent work with modular xorg? I'm getting:

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[blocks B     ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-misc/util-macros-1.1.0, x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.2.2)

[yngwin]

The same happens for all the versions of azureus, I don't think updating will change anything...
I will of course give ktorrent a shot, but, again, what's wrong with azureus?

I don't know. I don't have that problem with Azureus here, using the portage compiled version. It is a real resource hog, though - it uses 23% of my 2 Gig RAM. That's not funny, even though my system can handle that. Maybe it's a problem with one of the dependencies? I use Sun 1.5 Java.

Does ktorrent work with modular xorg?

It does here. And it's looking so good now, that I'm probably switching.

[zgredek]

The same happens for all the versions of azureus, I don't think updating will change anything...
I will of course give ktorrent a shot, but, again, what's wrong with azureus?

I don't know. I don't have that problem with Azureus here, using the portage compiled version. It is a real resource hog, though - it uses 23% of my 2 Gig RAM. That's not funny, even though my system can handle that. Maybe it's a problem with one of the dependencies? I use Sun 1.5 Java.

I'm using:

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dev-java/blackdown-jre  1.4.2.03-r13

I've plenty of ram, too. Sure - the memory usage is high but causing no real problem...

Does ktorrent work with modular xorg?

It does here. And it's looking so good now, that I'm probably switching.

So why the ... its deps are blocked by xorg?

[ali3nx]

The same happens for all the versions of azureus, I don't think updating will change anything...
I will of course give ktorrent a shot, but, again, what's wrong with azureus?

I don't know. I don't have that problem with Azureus here, using the portage compiled version. It is a real resource hog, though - it uses 23% of my 2 Gig RAM. That's not funny, even though my system can handle that. Maybe it's a problem with one of the dependencies? I use Sun 1.5 Java.

I'm using:

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dev-java/blackdown-jre  1.4.2.03-r13

I've plenty of ram, too. Sure - the memory usage is high but causing no real problem...

Does ktorrent work with modular xorg?

It does here. And it's looking so good now, that I'm probably switching.

So why the ... its deps are blocked by xorg?

You should read this gentoo modular xorg upgrade guide which would both clairify your issue with blocked dependences and help you get back into the game with a recent gentoo setup

[yngwin]

I'm using:

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dev-java/blackdown-jre  1.4.2.03-r13

It's recommended to use Sun's Java version 1.5 or later. If you're experiencing problems running azureus and you've using an older version of Java, try to upgrading to a new version.

[zgredek]

Sorry but there seems to be no blackdown java 1.5 package... What's the package name of:

I use Sun 1.5 Java.

you've installed?

[dattaway]

Have you ran memtest86? I had an entire bad row of memory and only certain apps seemed to be vulnerable.

[gimpel]

Sorry but there seems to be no blackdown java 1.5 package... What's the package name of:

I use Sun 1.5 Java.

you've installed?

sun-jre or sun-jdk

rtorrent si teh pwn, but i have problems with certain crappy udp trackers and have to use azureus for those too. did ktorrent really make it in the last two months? i hate that java crap.. laggy system even though having 1.25 gig ram..

[yngwin]

dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.08

[Ast0r]

Once you get used to it, the standard bittorrent client is far better than Azureus. I get better download speeds, the memory footprint is WAY smaller, it doesn't ever crash, and it doesn't take forever to compile.

I finally switched from Azureus and I am really glad I did. Azureus sucks.

[zgredek]

Have you ran memtest86? I had an entire bad row of memory and only certain apps seemed to be vulnerable.

Nop, memory is good, no errors.

sun-jre or sun-jdk

I will test azureus with sun java to see if there's still a problem.

rtorrent si teh pwn, but i have problems with certain crappy udp trackers and have to use azureus for those too. did ktorrent really make it in the last two months? i hate that java crap.. laggy system even though having 1.25 gig ram..

Azureus didn't make my computer slow even once however its memory usage seems to be far to high.

Once you get used to it, the standard bittorrent client is far better than Azureus. I get better download speeds, the memory footprint is WAY smaller, it doesn't ever crash, and it doesn't take forever to compile.

I wonder HOW you can possibly get higher DL speeds... Memory is not the point here, I'd let it use it all if only it worked well...
As to the crashes - ok - you got it;-)

Thanks for all the answers, guys;-)

[Ast0r]

I wonder HOW you can possibly get higher DL speeds... Memory is not the point here, I'd let it use it all if only it worked well...
As to the crashes - ok - you got it;-)

Thanks for all the answers, guys;-)

I guess it manages connections better than Azureus. I get consistently higher speeds using the regular bittorrent client. It does have a GUI you know ... it's not like you have to use it command line. And it definitely does use significantly less memory because 1.) it's less code and 2.) it doesn't have to load the JRE.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but it's my opinion that you should avoid Java whenever possible. Any problem with a program using Java ends up being that much more difficult to diagnose and fix. I only use Java programs as an absolute last resort. Java is slow, bloated and proprietary: stay away from it!

[zgredek]

You should read this gentoo modular xorg upgrade guide which would both clairify your issue with blocked dependences and help you get back into the game with a recent gentoo setup

So should I update xorg to modular (7.x) version? What if I'm satisfied with the current one and don't want to re-emerge it w/o a reason? How do I install ktorrent then (it's not in the manual)?

Thanks.

EDIT:
Great, ktorrent looks nice and everything would be OK if only it worked (download)... Running for 15 minutes it only found 3 peers and fetched 0 bytes while at the same time azureus made it ~20MB.

[Ast0r]

You should read this gentoo modular xorg upgrade guide which would both clairify your issue with blocked dependences and help you get back into the game with a recent gentoo setup

So should I update xorg to modular (7.x) version? What if I'm satisfied with the current one and don't want to re-emerge it w/o a reason? How do I install ktorrent then (it's not in the manual)?

Thanks.

EDIT:
Great, ktorrent looks nice and everything would be OK if only it worked (download)... Running for 15 minutes it only found 3 peers and fetched 0 bytes while at the same time azureus made it ~20MB.

ktorrent sucks.

[zgredek]

Ok, NOW i'm confused...

[Ast0r]

Dude,

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USE="gtk" emerge bittorrent

The ktorrent client is not at all configurable. I wasn't ever able to get it to work in active mode. But with the regular bittorrent client, you can set up the port to use. That's probably why you were having trouble with ktorrent: because it doesn't have any (obvious) way to change the port to listen on. So ...

1.) install bittorrent
2.) set up the right port
3.) make sure that port is forwarded to your machine on your router
4.) profit

[Q-collective]

OTOH, Ktorrent has really improved lately, there isn't much what you will miss in the latest version.

Agreed.
Azureus has always been known for memory leaks since ever, and since the Azureus devs pride themselves for their clean java code, it only proofs that java really should be avoided in my humble opinion.

[StifflerStealth]

I use to have issues with some newer versions of Azureus, but switching to the latest 2.5.0.0 fixed that. I even ran the beta builds of that version because the laatest stable at the time 2.4.?.? (whatever it was) crashed my system. I used Sun Java 1.5 so I had the right specs. I just got tired of how slow it was, so I switched to the 2.0.x version of KTorrent. It was nice, but this one torrent downloaded so slowly. I installed uTorrent. It's suppose to be the fasted and lightest weight client that had a nice graphical interface and many features, so I installed it on Wine and it works flawlessly. It's fast as hell and takes almost no memory. It even has the ability to watch a folder for new torrents. I love that feature. I just DL the torrent to that folder and it it loads them up. to install it, just run: wine utorrent.exe (or what ever you save the file as) and then it's installed and you can find it under the wine menu. It's actually really easy to get working on Wine.

As a side note, the KTorrent Devs are working on most of the slow down issues so when the newer versions come out, they should be on par with uTorrent. And to the person that says that KTorrent sucks, then post on their website not only that it sucks, but why it sucks and how it could suck less.

Cheers.

[zgredek]

Runnig a torrent client through wine where there is (or at least SHOULD be) a decent native client is nonsense...
I fired up azureus 2.5.0.0 and it seems a lot faster, will see if it crashes just like the previous version.

bittorrent wants to emerge ~20MB of stuff and packages I clearly don't want on my system...This is the last thing I'm gonna check.