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How to determine if I still need kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r2?

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Post by cgmd » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:21 pm

This morning, emerge -puDN world returned the following:

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emerge -puDN world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies \
emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "~kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.3".
(dependency required by "kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r2" [installed])



!!! Problem resolving dependencies for kde-base/kde:3.4
!!! Depgraph creation failed.
My first instinct is to emerge -C kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r2, since I switched to KDE-3.5.2 a couple months ago, and, consequently, I also have kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r2 installed.

What things should I check with regard to kdebase-3.4.3-r2 before I can assume it's safe to uninstall it without breaking something else?

Does anyone have advice about this?? :)

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Post by przemos » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:47 pm

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equery d kde-base/kdebase
- try this. It should return every package depending on kdebase. If that command returns nothing it means that you don't need kdebase.

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Post by cgmd » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:00 pm

przemos wrote:
equery d kde-base/kdebase
- try this. It should return every package depending on kdebase. If that command returns nothing it means that you don't need kdebase.
Not my lucky morning...

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 equery d kde-base/kdebase
[ Searching for packages depending on kde-base/kdebase... ]
app-portage/kuroo-0.80.2-r1
app-cdr/k3b-0.12.14
net-misc/smb4k-0.6.10
kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.2
kde-base/kde-3.4.3
kde-base/kde-3.5.2
kde-base/kdeadmin-3.4.3
kde-base/kdeadmin-3.5.2
kde-base/kdepim-3.5.2-r2
kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.2
kde-base/kdegames-3.4.3
kde-base/kdegames-3.5.2
kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3
kde-base/kdeartwork-3.4.3
kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.2
kde-base/kdeutils-3.4.3-r1
kde-base/kdepim-3.4.3
kde-base/kdenetwork-3.4.3
kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5.2
kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4.3-r4
kde-base/kdem
kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.2-r2
There are many KDE-3.4.3 remnents! :(

Is there a way to clean this up?

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Post by bigbob73 » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:22 pm

cgmd wrote:przemos wrote:
equery d kde-base/kdebase
- try this. It should return every package depending on kdebase. If that command returns nothing it means that you don't need kdebase.
Not my lucky morning...

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 equery d kde-base/kdebase
[ Searching for packages depending on kde-base/kdebase... ]
app-portage/kuroo-0.80.2-r1
app-cdr/k3b-0.12.14
net-misc/smb4k-0.6.10
kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.2
kde-base/kde-3.4.3
kde-base/kde-3.5.2
kde-base/kdeadmin-3.4.3
kde-base/kdeadmin-3.5.2
kde-base/kdepim-3.5.2-r2
kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.2
kde-base/kdegames-3.4.3
kde-base/kdegames-3.5.2
kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3
kde-base/kdeartwork-3.4.3
kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.2
kde-base/kdeutils-3.4.3-r1
kde-base/kdepim-3.4.3
kde-base/kdenetwork-3.4.3
kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5.2
kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4.3-r4
kde-base/kdem
kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.2-r2
There are many KDE-3.4.3 remnents! :(

Is there a way to clean this up?

Thanks!
you could try emerge -P kde (this should prune the older install) you may need to run revdep-rebuild after.
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Post by przemos » Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:12 pm

cgmd wrote:

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 equery d kde-base/kdebase
[ Searching for packages depending on kde-base/kdebase... ]
app-portage/kuroo-0.80.2-r1
app-cdr/k3b-0.12.14
net-misc/smb4k-0.6.10
kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.2
kde-base/kde-3.4.3
kde-base/kde-3.5.2
kde-base/kdeadmin-3.4.3
kde-base/kdeadmin-3.5.2
kde-base/kdepim-3.5.2-r2
kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.2
kde-base/kdegames-3.4.3
kde-base/kdegames-3.5.2
kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3
kde-base/kdeartwork-3.4.3
kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.2
kde-base/kdeutils-3.4.3-r1
kde-base/kdepim-3.4.3
kde-base/kdenetwork-3.4.3
kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5.2
kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4.3-r4
kde-base/kdem
kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.2-r2
There are many KDE-3.4.3 remnents! :(

Is there a way to clean this up?

Thanks!
You probably don't need kde-3.4.3 (Do you?). If so you could try emerge -C =kde-3.4.3, and later do emerge -pv --depclean and paste here the results.

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Post by cgmd » Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:46 pm

przemos wrote:
If so you could try emerge -C =kde-3.4.3, and later do emerge -pv --depclean and paste here the results.
I get the following:

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 # emerge -pv --depclean

*** WARNING ***  Depclean may break link level dependencies.  Thus, it is
*** WARNING ***  recommended to use a tool such as `revdep-rebuild` (from
*** WARNING ***  app-portage/gentoolkit) in order to detect such breakage.
*** WARNING ***
*** WARNING ***  Also study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious
*** WARNING ***  mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set will always
*** WARNING ***  be kept.  They can be manually added to this set with
*** WARNING ***  `emerge --noreplace <atom>`.
*** WARNING ***
*** WARNING ***  As a safety measure, depclean will not remove any packages
*** WARNING ***  unless *all* required dependencies have been resolved.  As a
*** WARNING ***  consequence, it is often necessary to run
*** WARNING ***  `emerge --update --deep world` prior to depclean.

Calculating dependencies... done!

Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to
the following required packages not being installed:

~kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.3 required by kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r2 kde-base/kdeartwork-3.4.3
x11-apps/xsm required by x11-apps/xinit-1.0.2-r6

Have you forgotten to run `emerge --update --deep world` prior to depclean?
What next?

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Post by przemos » Sun Oct 08, 2006 3:18 pm

I guess you should do first emerge -C =kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r2 =kde-base/kdeartwork-3.4.3 and leter emerge x11-apps/xsm. As soon as you complete these tasks do emerge -pv --depclean and paste here the results :D

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Post by cgmd » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:16 pm

Sweet! Now I have some output to paste:

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# emerge -pv --depclean

*** WARNING ***  Depclean may break link level dependencies.  Thus, it is
*** WARNING ***  recommended to use a tool such as `revdep-rebuild` (from
*** WARNING ***  app-portage/gentoolkit) in order to detect such breakage.
*** WARNING ***
*** WARNING ***  Also study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious
*** WARNING ***  mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set will always
*** WARNING ***  be kept.  They can be manually added to this set with
*** WARNING ***  `emerge --noreplace <atom>`.
*** WARNING ***
*** WARNING ***  As a safety measure, depclean will not remove any packages
*** WARNING ***  unless *all* required dependencies have been resolved.  As a
*** WARNING ***  consequence, it is often necessary to run
*** WARNING ***  `emerge --update --deep world` prior to depclean.

Calculating dependencies... done!


>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:

 dev-util/pccts
    selected: 1.33.33
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 sys-fs/devfsd
    selected: 1.3.25-r8
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 kde-base/kdepim
    selected: 3.4.3
   protected: none
     omitted: 3.5.2-r2

 app-portage/esearch
    selected: 0.7
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-themes/gnome-themes
    selected: 2.12.3
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-apps/sessreg
    selected: 1.0.0
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-libs/libcdio
    selected: 0.73
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-perl/Archive-Zip
    selected: 1.16
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-cpp/libgnomemm
    selected: 2.0.1
   protected: none
     omitted: 2.12.2

 x11-themes/gtk-engines
    selected: 2.6.7
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 virtual/x11
    selected: 7.0-r2
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-libs/libXprintAppUtil
    selected: 1.0.1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 net-misc/nxproxy
    selected: 1.5.0-r2
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 gnome-extra/gtkhtml
    selected: 2.6.3
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 kde-base/kdetoys
    selected: 3.4.3
   protected: none
     omitted: 3.5.2

 media-video/vcdimager
    selected: 0.7.21
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-php/PEAR-PEAR
    selected: 1.3.6-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-libs/libsigc++
    selected: 1.2.5
   protected: none
     omitted: 2.0.16

 kde-base/kdewebdev
    selected: 3.4.3-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: 3.5.2

 x11-apps/xdm
    selected: 1.0.5
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-wm/windowmaker
    selected: 0.92.0-r3
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 www-client/mozilla
    selected: 1.7.13
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 media-libs/libfame
    selected: 0.9.1-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev
    selected: 1.1.2-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-db/sqlite
    selected: 3.2.1-r3
   protected: none
     omitted: 2.8.16-r4

 app-arch/ncompress
    selected: 4.2.4.1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 media-sound/madplay
    selected: 0.15.2b
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 kde-base/kdeedu
    selected: 3.4.3-r10
   protected: none
     omitted: 3.5.2

 media-libs/libdv
    selected: 0.102
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 kde-base/kdenetwork
    selected: 3.4.3
   protected: none
     omitted: 3.5.2

 dev-php/PEAR-Console_Getopt
    selected: 1.2-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-java/ant-core
    selected: 1.6.2-r5
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-cpp/gconfmm
    selected: 2.0.2
   protected: none
     omitted: 2.12.0

 dev-php/PEAR-XML_RPC
    selected: 1.4.4
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 kde-base/kdeutils
    selected: 3.4.3-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: 3.5.2

 x11-themes/xcursor-themes
    selected: 1.0.1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 kde-base/kdeaccessibility
    selected: 3.3.2
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-cpp/libglademm
    selected: 2.0.1
   protected: none
     omitted: 2.6.2

 dev-perl/perl-ldap
    selected: 0.31
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 net-www/gentoo-webroot-default
    selected: 0.2
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 app-text/poppler-bindings
    selected: 0.5.1-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-libs/liboldX
    selected: 1.0.1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-perl/Convert-ASN1
    selected: 0.18
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 app-crypt/gpgme
    selected: 0.4.0
   protected: none
     omitted: 1.1.2-r1

 x11-libs/fltk
    selected: 1.1.6
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 kde-base/kdemultimedia
    selected: 3.4.3
   protected: none
     omitted: 3.5.2-r2

 app-text/openjade
    selected: 1.3.2-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 net-misc/nxssh
    selected: 1.5.0-r2
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 kde-base/kdeadmin
    selected: 3.4.3
   protected: none
     omitted: 3.5.2

 x11-apps/xdriinfo
    selected: 1.0.1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 perl-core/MIME-Base64
    selected: 3.05
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 app-text/hunspell
    selected: 1.1.4-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-perl/Crypt-SmbHash
    selected: 0.02
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 sys-devel/bin86
    selected: 0.16.17
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 app-doc/doxygen
    selected: 1.4.4
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-libs/libXevie
    selected: 1.0.1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-perl/Compress-Zlib
    selected: 1.41
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-libs/libXTrap
    selected: 1.0.0
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-perl/URI
    selected: 1.35
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 app-text/sgml-common
    selected: 0.6.3-r4
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 media-gfx/jhead
    selected: 2.5
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-apps/xcursorgen
    selected: 1.0.1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-libs/lzo
    selected: 1.08-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: 2.02-r1

 media-gfx/bootsplash-themes
    selected: 20040821
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-cpp/libgnomeuimm
    selected: 2.0.0
   protected: none
     omitted: 2.12.0

 media-gfx/graphviz
    selected: 1.16
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 perl-core/Storable
    selected: 2.15
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-cpp/libgnomecanvasmm
    selected: 2.0.1
   protected: none
     omitted: 2.12.0

 x11-themes/gentoo-xcursors
    selected: 0.3.1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-apps/ttmkfdir
    selected: 3.0.9-r3
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 kde-base/kdegames
    selected: 3.4.3
   protected: none
     omitted: 3.5.2

 dev-php/PEAR-Archive_Tar
    selected: 1.3.2
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 net-libs/gecko-sdk
    selected: 1.7.12-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 virtual/libintl
    selected: 0
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-perl/Digest-MD4
    selected: 1.3
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 kde-base/kdeaddons
    selected: 3.4.3
   protected: none
     omitted: 3.5.2-r1

 media-libs/libsndfile
    selected: 1.0.11
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-base/opengl-update
    selected: 3.0.0
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 app-shells/sash
    selected: 3.7
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 app-shells/tcsh
    selected: 6.14-r3
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 kde-base/kdegraphics
    selected: 3.4.3-r4
   protected: none
     omitted: 3.5.2

 dev-cpp/gtkmm
    selected: 2.2.12
   protected: none
     omitted: 2.8.3

>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.

Packages installed:   722
Packages in world:    144
Packages in system:   57
Unique package names: 722
Required packages:    640
Number to remove:     82
OK... So, presuming it safe to remove all those packages showing an "omitted" newer version, I did just that :

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cgmd # emerge -C =kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1 =dev-libs/libsigc++-1.2.5 =kde-base/kdetoys-3.4.3 =dev-db/sqlite-3.2.1-r3 =kde-base/kdeedu-3.4.3-r10 =kde-base/kdenetwork-3.4.3 =dev-cpp/gconfmm-2.0.2 =kde-base/kdeutils-3.4.3-r1 =dev-cpp/libglademm-2.0.1 =app-crypt/gpgme-0.4.0 =kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3 =kde-base/kdeadmin-3.4.3 =dev-libs/lzo-1.08-r1 =dev-cpp/libgnomeuimm-2.0.0 =dev-cpp/libgnomecanvasmm-2.0.1 =kde-base/kdegames-3.4.3 =kde-base/kdeaddons-3.4.3 =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4.3-r4 =dev-cpp/gtkmm-2.2.12 =kde-base/kdepim-3.4.3 =dev-cpp/libgnomemm-2.0.1
...and emerge -pv --depclean now shows a list like:

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>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:

 dev-util/pccts
    selected: 1.33.33
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 sys-fs/devfsd
    selected: 1.3.25-r8
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 app-portage/esearch
    selected: 0.7
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-themes/gnome-themes
    selected: 2.12.3
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-apps/sessreg
    selected: 1.0.0
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-libs/libcdio
    selected: 0.73
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-perl/Archive-Zip
    selected: 1.16
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 virtual/libintl
    selected: 0
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-themes/gtk-engines
    selected: 2.6.7
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 virtual/x11
    selected: 7.0-r2
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-libs/libXprintAppUtil
    selected: 1.0.1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 net-misc/nxproxy
    selected: 1.5.0-r2
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 gnome-extra/gtkhtml
    selected: 2.6.3
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 media-video/vcdimager
    selected: 0.7.21
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-php/PEAR-PEAR
    selected: 1.3.6-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 app-shells/sash
    selected: 3.7
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-apps/xdm
    selected: 1.0.5
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-wm/windowmaker
    selected: 0.92.0-r3
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 www-client/mozilla
    selected: 1.7.13
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 media-libs/libfame
    selected: 0.9.1-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev
    selected: 1.1.2-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 app-arch/ncompress
    selected: 4.2.4.1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 media-sound/madplay
    selected: 0.15.2b
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 media-libs/libdv
    selected: 0.102
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-php/PEAR-Console_Getopt
    selected: 1.2-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-java/ant-core
    selected: 1.6.2-r5
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-php/PEAR-XML_RPC
    selected: 1.4.4
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-themes/xcursor-themes
    selected: 1.0.1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 kde-base/kdeaccessibility
    selected: 3.3.2
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 app-text/poppler-bindings
    selected: 0.5.1-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 net-www/gentoo-webroot-default
    selected: 0.2
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-perl/perl-ldap
    selected: 0.31
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-libs/liboldX
    selected: 1.0.1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-perl/Convert-ASN1
    selected: 0.18
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-libs/fltk
    selected: 1.1.6
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 app-text/openjade
    selected: 1.3.2-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 net-misc/nxssh
    selected: 1.5.0-r2
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-apps/xdriinfo
    selected: 1.0.1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 perl-core/MIME-Base64
    selected: 3.05
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 app-text/hunspell
    selected: 1.1.4-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-perl/Crypt-SmbHash
    selected: 0.02
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 sys-devel/bin86
    selected: 0.16.17
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 app-doc/doxygen
    selected: 1.4.4
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-libs/libXevie
    selected: 1.0.1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-perl/Compress-Zlib
    selected: 1.41
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-libs/libXTrap
    selected: 1.0.0
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-perl/URI
    selected: 1.35
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 app-text/sgml-common
    selected: 0.6.3-r4
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 media-gfx/jhead
    selected: 2.5
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-apps/xcursorgen
    selected: 1.0.1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 media-gfx/bootsplash-themes
    selected: 20040821
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 media-gfx/graphviz
    selected: 1.16
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 perl-core/Storable
    selected: 2.15
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-themes/gentoo-xcursors
    selected: 0.3.1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-apps/ttmkfdir
    selected: 3.0.9-r3
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-php/PEAR-Archive_Tar
    selected: 1.3.2
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 net-libs/gecko-sdk
    selected: 1.7.12-r1
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 dev-perl/Digest-MD4
    selected: 1.3
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 media-libs/libsndfile
    selected: 1.0.11
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 x11-base/opengl-update
    selected: 3.0.0
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 app-shells/tcsh
    selected: 6.14-r3
   protected: none
     omitted: none
Should it be safe to unmerge all of these, as well?? Or is that not such a good idea? :?

Thanks!
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Post by mark_alec » Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:39 am

There is a nice section in the Gentoo KDE doc for Unmerging Old Versions.

As for the depclean, it looks like it should be safe to perform. You should check through the list, and if there are any programs that you wish to keep 'emerge --noreplace <package>'
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