Adapt to Beryl?

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Clete2 · Post by **Clete2** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:33 pm

Hi,

I just heard that compiz-quinnstorm is changing names and is now called 'Beryl.' Is there anything I need to do to update? Or can I keep emerging as compiz-quinnstorm? I followed the entire guide on the Gentoo Wiki. I am using layman to update my tree.

steve_d555 · Post by **steve_d555** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:12 am

The first release of Beryl is not out yet and won't be into the portage-xgl until the first release is out AFAIK.
Beryl isn't just a name change its a whole new application forked off compiz, I think.

Clete2 · Post by **Clete2** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:21 am

I see. So, if I updage portage-xgl using layman, I shouldn't have to do anything to receive beryl when it's out? It may appear as Beryl instead of compiz-quinnstorm, though, right?

steve_d555 · Post by **steve_d555** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:34 am

Most likely. You will probably have to talk to CoffeeBuzz or nesl247 or watch http://forums.xgl-coffee.org/ to get specifics.

Clete2 · Post by **Clete2** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:36 am

Ok cool. Thanks for the link.

nesl247 · Post by **nesl247** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:23 am

Once it is released I'll have my ebuilds in portage-xgl and then all you will have to do is unemerge the compiz-quinnstorm apps and emerge beryl.

eqlb · Post by **eqlb** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:46 am

When i first heard that, i got the sailor moon theme stuck in my head for days. If you dont get it, queen Beryl was the first arch enemy for the sailor twits. That reminds me, i must go find a life

piwacet · Post by **piwacet** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:31 pm

Does anyone know if beryl will support xfce? Or will it only work with gnome/kde?

micr0c0sm · Post by **micr0c0sm** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:32 pm

I believe beryl will support anything, just like compiz, as long as you use aiglx...

boniek · Post by **boniek** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:50 pm

eqlb wrote:When i first heard that, i got the sailor moon theme stuck in my head for days. If you dont get it, queen Beryl was the first arch enemy for the sailor twits. That reminds me, i must go find a life

to+ · Post by **to+** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:25 am

Clete2 wrote:I see. So, if I updage portage-xgl using layman, I shouldn't have to do anything to receive beryl when it's out? It may appear as Beryl instead of compiz-quinnstorm, though, right?

You can try it using sabayon overlay, set it up using layman as usual. Right now there's one package's ebuild missing, for emerald-themes, but you can copy and rename the emerald ebuild to emerald-themes to get the window decoration themes.

It's working like a charm here, using svn ebuilds for beryl-core beryl-plugins beryl-settings beryl-manager emerald and emerald-themes (svn ebuilds = version -9999 ebuilds).

I don't notice any difference between enabling the AIGLX extension or not. Anyone has any ideas on this issue? nVidia guys say not using AIGLX saves some overhead as ommits an extra layer (beryl works without AIGLX as it only depends on TFP OpenGL extension).

piranha2001 · Post by **piranha2001** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:16 pm

Yo can also install Beryl from SVN manually:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/Beryl

Works very good and extremely fast with the new Nvidia-beta-drivers!!!

Jupiter1TX · Post by **Jupiter1TX** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:43 pm

anyone know why sabayon beryl ebuilds are not working?
or what the new path is?

* subversion check out start -->
* repository: svn://metascape.afraid.org/svnroot/beryl/beryl-core
svn: URL 'svn://metascape.afraid.org/svnroot/beryl/beryl-core' doesn't exist

!!! ERROR: x11-wm/beryl-core-9999 failed.
Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1546: Called dyn_unpack
ebuild.sh, line 708: Called src_unpack
beryl-core-9999.ebuild, line 51: Called subversion_src_unpack
subversion.eclass, line 278: Called subversion_fetch
subversion.eclass, line 185: Called die

!!! subversion.eclass: can't fetch from svn://metascape.afraid.org/svnroot/beryl/beryl-core.
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant.

!!! This ebuild is from an overlay: '/usr/portage/local/layman/sabayon'
Error in sys.exitfunc:

Gusar · Post by **Gusar** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:56 pm

Jupiter1TX wrote:anyone know why sabayon beryl ebuilds are not working?

SVN layout changed. Adjust all ebuilds like so:

from

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ESVN_REPO_URI="svn://metascape.afraid.org/svnroot/beryl/${ESVN_PROJECT}/trunk"

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ESVN_REPO_URI="svn://metascape.afraid.org/svnroot/beryl/trunk/${ESVN_PROJECT}"

Jupiter1TX · Post by **Jupiter1TX** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:32 am

Gusar wrote:
Jupiter1TX wrote:anyone know why sabayon beryl ebuilds are not working?
SVN layout changed. Adjust all ebuilds like so:

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ESVN_REPO_URI="svn://metascape.afraid.org/svnroot/beryl/${ESVN_PROJECT}/trunk"
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ESVN_REPO_URI="svn://metascape.afraid.org/svnroot/beryl/trunk/${ESVN_PROJECT}"

thanks Gusar
that worked

xanas3712 · Post by **xanas3712** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:08 am

I did this yesterday, but I also had to patch configure.ac in order to put VERSION in the right directory with it, I guess this may be unnecessary if it just worked for you though.

EDIT: apparenltly so, well it was a learning experience anyway, patching ebuilds, modifying configure input files, etc.

Anyway, everything is still not quite working for me, beryl crashes on just about nothing, and at the moment I have advanced to where instead of crashing or being generally slow it's instead just brining up a white screen!

I'm going to rebuild xorg with version 7.1.1 instead of 7.1.0 and hope that makes a difference. I also wasn't using the patched sabayon overlya nvidia drivers, etc. and that may have been needed.. who knows.. documentation is scarce (yeah i know it's not released yet, but i can't help wanting to upgrade at this point when we have new drivers with new capabilities).

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Xlib:  extension "XVideo" missing on display ":0.0".
xvinfo: No X-Video Extension on :0
XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA
Nvidia Absent, assuming AIGLX
beryl: No sync extension

What the heck does it mean by nvidia absent? Does anyone know what it's actually checking for to determine this?
xanas@zero-one ~ $ lsmod | grep nvidia
nvidia 5658072 40

It's obviously not that..

and my Xorg.conf has

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Section "Extensions"
   Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection
    Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
    Option "RenderAccel" "true"
    Option "backingstore" "true"

xorg command line in kdmrc is "X -br -ac"

EDIT: figured that out, somehow the opengl was set to xorg-x11, maybe during an emerge.. anyway, I used eselect opengl set nvidia to fix.. but now I'm back to "no sync extension" and I'm sure I had fixed that before, probably with all the changes I've made trying to get decent performance I broke that at some point.

Ok I have that fixed it's the silly

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SubSection "extmod"
         Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSection

I found that on hanno's blog I think in a google search, I was in a flurry of deleting entries I wasn't sure about trying to narrow down my xorg.conf to only what I had seen information on specifically and got rid of that one also...

animation is EXTREMELY slow, and I'm not sure if that's just that the timings are that bad or if it's actually that it's slow.. it's terrible defaults if this is normal, so I can't imagine it's supposed to work this way...

ok it's the timings, wobbly is a little unsmooth still though.

I get 300-400 fps in benchmark when rotating cube (no vsync obviously) and 500-600 doing nill. That sounds probably normal for a 7800 GT.

Jupiter1TX · Post by **Jupiter1TX** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:16 am

xanas3712 i don't know if this will help but i turned off
general options/ slowness fix and sync to vblank
it is very responsive and way fast

due to some crashes on closing applications i also turned off these plugins
state, trailfocus and blur

am getting 1100+ fps in beryl benchmark and 9400+ in glxgears
and 14000+ in glxgears without beryl

the major issue i am having is with decorations
i have tried the work arrounds mentioned in ubuntu
forums with no luck
don't know if there is something i am doing wrong or
decorations issue is still not fixed
error:
zero@vger ~ $ Reloading...
Couldn't load settings. Reverting to defaults.

and
** (beryl-manager:9446): WARNING **: Couldn't open /proc//environ

EDIT:
600-700 fps when rotating cube and animation is slow while benchmark is active

xanas3712 · Post by **xanas3712** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:32 am

I don't think I'm having any problems with deco.. at least it seems fine.

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xanas@zero-one ~ $ glxgears
84398 frames in 5.0 seconds = 16879.479 FPS
84471 frames in 5.0 seconds = 16894.182 FPS
82406 frames in 5.0 seconds = 16481.078 FPS
82385 frames in 5.0 seconds = 16476.814 FPS
75424 frames in 5.0 seconds = 15084.717 FPS
80949 frames in 5.0 seconds = 16189.661 FPS

Glx gears w/o beryl (x crashed on glx gears when blur was on)

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xanas@zero-one ~ $ glxgears
39011 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7802.153 FPS
38026 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7605.010 FPS
35972 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7194.342 FPS
38842 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7764.702 FPS
37299 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7459.755 FPS
37144 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7427.767 FPS

glx gears w/ beryl

So I start out higher due to the 7800 vs 6800, but end up lower.

My cpu is only a 3800+ to your 4800, probably shouldn't make a difference in beryl but it may be more cpu work than I was aware, I'll keep working with the settings to find out.

Clete2 · Post by **Clete2** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:23 pm

What about us ATI users? I have a Radeon X800 XT PE. How do I set it up? I'm having difficulties as the Gentoo-Wiki guide seems to be for NVIDIA.

Jupiter1TX · Post by **Jupiter1TX** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:31 pm

Clete2 wrote:What about us ATI users? I have a Radeon X800 XT PE. How do I set it up? I'm having difficulties as the Gentoo-Wiki guide seems to be for NVIDIA.

try this link
http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-24 ... -fglrx-xgl

or here
http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-48 ... ryl-dapper

i just did a search here and found these two links
http://forum.beryl-project.org/

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