Ok guys, lets think about this KDE 3.5.4 ... Before Released

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prophecy · Post by **prophecy** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:40 pm

Ok,

I have been a avid Gentoo user for quite a while now. I have recently run into the problem of doing a system upgrade where it wants to install kde 3.5.4 BEFORE IT WAS RELEASED!?! Ok, I know what is going on. The gentoo kde package maintainers are inserting the ebuilds into the tree so that as soon as the sources are released we can install them. The problem is that this blocks our updates while we wait for the kde team to release. Now, I am aware that I could just wait and upgrade other packages in the mean time, but that is a pain. I like my "emerge -uDv world" command. So, I would like to propose that the kde package maintainer (the ebuild dudes and dudets) go ahead and populate the portage tree with the ebuilds but then hard mask them until the sources are truly released. In this fashion people can still perform the updates and the kde ebuild maintainers can debug the ebuilds (but using their local unmask). I think this is a happy compromise that grants the most usability and functionality to both sides of the fence. What do you all think?

Justace

P.S. I know I am running ~x86 and these ebuilds have not been moved to x86 but I think to purposly break an update for this reason, even in ~x86, is unjustified.

nixnut · Post by **nixnut** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:31 pm

kde-3.5.4 is hard masked in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask here. Are you sure your own package.unmask is correct?

prophecy · Post by **prophecy** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:57 pm

You are correct......

I deserve to be beaten with a rubber hose.....

Sorry.

Justace

masterdriverz · Post by **masterdriverz** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:58 pm

prophecy wrote:I deserve to be beaten with a rubber hose.....

Heh, thats nothing compared to what Flameeyes would have done if you'd complained about it to him.

opentaka · Post by **opentaka** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:02 pm

ahaha

How did you predict all that with emerge didn't fetch the source code brahbrah :O

roderick · Post by **roderick** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:30 am

Any idea when the tarballs will appear?

Seems arts 3.5.4 is available.... but not the others yet. I assume this is getting real CLOSE

lucida · Post by **lucida** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:11 am

For arts-3.5.4, the current ebuild actually fetchs the 3.5.3 package...

roderick · Post by **roderick** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:56 am

lucida wrote:For arts-3.5.4, the current ebuild actually fetchs the 3.5.3 package...

oh my...

oh well...

michel7 · Post by **michel7** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:03 am

roderick wrote:Any idea when the tarballs will appear?

It will appear when kde.org officially release it ...

roderick · Post by **roderick** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:47 pm

michel7 wrote:
roderick wrote:Any idea when the tarballs will appear?
It will appear when kde.org officially release it ...

duh.. that's obvious. I was asking more of a general feel for the timing though. Not simply "when ready".

I know it's already tagged, so it's close... but is that 2-3 days or 2-3 weeks... get it?

UncleOwen · Post by **UncleOwen** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:50 pm

I'd guess it's days, not weeks.

radfoj · Post by **radfoj** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:10 pm

Here are stats for previous versions: (sorry if I did some mistake, I wrote it quickly)

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version         tagged                 released         days
-------------------------------------------------------------
3.5.4         24 July 2006              ???          
3.5.3         23 May 2006             31 May 2006         8
3.5.2         17 March 2006           28 March 2006      11
3.5.1         20 January 2006         31 January 2006    11  
3.4.3         5 October 2005          13 October 2005     8
3.4.2         20 July 2005            28 July 2005        8
3.4.1         23 May 2005             31 May 2005         8

My personal guess - 5 days to GO

. At least I wish it.

roderick · Post by **roderick** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:12 pm

radfoj wrote:Here are stats for previous versions: (sorry if I did some mistake, I wrote it quickly)

Code: Select all

version         tagged                 released         days
-------------------------------------------------------------
3.5.4         24 July 2006              ???          
3.5.3         23 May 2006             31 May 2006         8
3.5.2         17 March 2006           28 March 2006      11
3.5.1         20 January 2006         31 January 2006    11  
3.4.3         5 October 2005          13 October 2005     8
3.4.2         20 July 2005            28 July 2005        8
3.4.1         23 May 2005             31 May 2005         8

My personal guess - 4 days to GO

. At least I wish it.

Awesome. Now I can at least sit idly quiet for a few days and wait