Recommended Python IDEs ??

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grofaz · Post by **grofaz** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:20 am

What do you all recommend for a Python IDE ?

In fact, what do recommend for a decent Python setup on gentoo ? By that I mean what packages should be installed ?

I have Python emerged but it seems pretty bare bones and I'm having trouble running programs due to missing modules or other mysterious reasons I haven't exactly figured out yet. IDLE for example won't run cause my Python wasn't compiled with tkinter support or some such. But tkinter can not be found anyplace high or low. Where might I find tkinter pray tell ??

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xalan · Post by **xalan** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:38 am

vim + vimpython + these settings: http://www.vex.net/~x/python_and_vim.html

grofaz · Post by **grofaz** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:40 am

xalan wrote:vim + vimpython + these settings: http://www.vex.net/~x/python_and_vim.html

I'm not familiar with vim, been avoiding it and emacs both. I like gedit but it's not an IDE.

xalan · Post by **xalan** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:41 am

Then go through this: http://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedD ... vironments

grofaz · Post by **grofaz** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:14 am

xalan wrote:Then go through this: http://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedD ... vironments

Interesting, thanks for the tip.

sgtrock · Post by **sgtrock** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:40 pm

Here's an answer to why idle might not have been added as part of your python emerge:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-47 ... +idle.html

grofaz · Post by **grofaz** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:36 am

sgtrock wrote:Here's an answer to why idle might not have been added as part of your python emerge:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-47 ... +idle.html

Actually it was, just needs tk USE flag enabled to work.

Penguin of Wonder · Post by **Penguin of Wonder** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:54 am

Has anyone here actually used IDLE? From the reviews of the the IDEs I read following a previously posted link, the vim option sounds really nice.

grofaz · Post by **grofaz** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:58 am

Penguin of Wonder wrote:Has anyone here actually used IDLE? From the reviews of the the IDEs I read following a previously posted link, the vim option sounds really nice.

I like it, nice & simple. I like SPE too but latest/greatest not in portage yet. Anjuta works too. Don't care for VIM meself, too complicated.

Penguin of Wonder · Post by **Penguin of Wonder** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:58 am

In responce to my own question, I found this Ph.d.'s (assuming I can trust the internet) review of IDLE. He tested the development stage and seemed to like it alot. Its now out of beta, so I think I'm going to try it. Unless someone knows why I shouldn't?

IDLE Review

codergeek42 · Post by **codergeek42** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:42 am

I very much like Scribes. There's an ebuild for it in [bug]106964[/bug].

sgtrock · Post by **sgtrock** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:39 am

I've used vim, idle, and eclipse with the pydev plug-in for very light python development scaling up to what might be mid-sized projects.

vim is OK, but really works best if you're already comfortable with it.

idle is great for small stuff, and scales reasonably well. The interactive shell comes up by default, which makes testing snippets of code trivial. I like it a lot, and would recommend it for a first IDE for Python just because it comes bundled. Just remember to add tcl and tcltk to your build options for Python.

(Why on earth the Gentoo default ebuild of Python doesn't include these dependencies is beyond me. They're part of the language spec, fer chrissake!)

Once you're comfortable with idle, it might be worthwhile to branch out.try out some of the other suggestions in this list. Look for one that fits your development style. Personally, I like eclipse and pydev. I throw in a svn plug-in to get to my code repository, and I'm good to go. However, there are plenty to choose from. Find the one that fits you best.

Penguin of Wonder · Post by **Penguin of Wonder** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:48 am

sgtrock wrote:Just remember to add tcl and tcltk to your build options for Python. (Why on earth the Gentoo default ebuild of Python doesn't include these dependencies is beyond me. They're part of the language spec, fer chrissake!)

Uhh, stupid question. How do I do that? Do I need to one-shot python, or just when I install IDlE?

grofaz · Post by **grofaz** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:53 am

Penguin of Wonder wrote:
sgtrock wrote:Just remember to add tcl and tcltk to your build options for Python. :) (Why on earth the Gentoo default ebuild of Python doesn't include these dependencies is beyond me. They're part of the language spec, fer chrissake!)
Uhh, stupid question. How do I do that? Do I need to one-shot python, or just when I install IDlE?

Try this:

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emerge -av flagedit
flagedit +tcltk +tk
emerge -avN python

Cheers!

Penguin of Wonder · Post by **Penguin of Wonder** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:07 am

Thank you very much grofaz! I've never had to do that before. So... is there a Gentoo page on what that does?

grofaz · Post by **grofaz** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:47 am

Penguin of Wonder wrote:Thank you very much grofaz! I've never had to do that before. So... is there a Gentoo page on what that does?

I don't know. flagedit is a nifty little program that allows you to easily add or remove USE flags from your /etc/make.conf file.
Try:

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flagedit -h

for more info.

Ciao

sgtrock · Post by **sgtrock** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:37 am

I haven't tried flagedit myself. Sounds like a nice utility.

Failing that, the message thread that I posted earlier details how you can add the necessary flags from the console.

In either case, after you add those dependencies for a rebuild of python, you'll find that idle is included as part of python. You just start idle from the command line; 'idle &' and it'll fire up an interactive python shell. Choose 'File->New Window' and you'll have a nice, clean scratch pad to start writing code. You'll find that it's really nice to be able to copy and paste code back and forth between the two as you try stuff out.

Enjoy!